[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Lute Concerto

2019-04-15 Thread Edward C. Yong
Hi Michael, Yes please, if you can find it. Thank you! Best, Edward > On 15 Apr 2019, at 10:25 PM, Michael Vollbrecht wrote: > > Hello Edward, > I made a quick tab of that concerto for Ren. Lute; if you still > need it, I can send it to you -once I've found it... > > All the Best > >

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Lute Concerto

2019-04-15 Thread Michael Vollbrecht
Hello Edward, I made a quick tab of that concerto for Ren. Lute; if you still need it, I can send it to you -once I've found it... All the Best Michael Vollbrecht On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 16:39 +0800, Edward C. Yong wrote: > Dear Lute Collective, > > Would anyone have the Vivadi Lute Concerto in

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-13 Thread howard posner
I could not have said it better. On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Ralf Mattes wrote: Doesn't it seem a little ironic that those who champion a technique that's 400 years old are calling Segovia's technique "old fashioned". Gary No. Unless you

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread howard posner
If thumb out bothers you, you’ve been asleep the last 30 years. > On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:26 AM, John Mardinly wrote: > > Thumb out, nails, nylon strings, metal wound basses, metal frets, bone > saddle in bridge (Rubio lute), big sound, very hip. To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread John Mardinly
Thumb out, nails, nylon strings, metal wound basses, metal frets, bone saddle in bridge (Rubio lute), big sound, very hip. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread Robert Gallagher
I would call that a “thumbs-up” performance. Wonderful. Larger orchestra than I would have liked but you can always count on Bream to put musicality first. All best, Robert Robert Gallagher Tour Béryl BAL 68-3 40, avenue d’Italie 75013 Paris FRANCE +33 (0) 983 79 70 48 > On 12 Oct

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread Diego Cantalupi
Some very HIP thumb out Vivaldi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyY5pB2a0cU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread gary
t; have come to listen with an open mind and judge a performance based > upon its musicality. > RA > __ > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:47 AM >

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-12 Thread Jarosław Lipski
omeone’s performance, my only concern is that people use HIP term with some care. JL > > > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of > Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:28 PM > To: l

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread howard posner
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > HIP is not > necessarily a hard and fast objective measure because whenever the term > is mentioned, you must ask the question, "...according to whom?" > > Speedy O'Dette's use of a mandolino is a serious

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Jarosław Lipski
listen with an > open mind and judge a performance based upon its musicality. > > RA > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of > Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:47 AM > To: lute@cs.dart

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Charles Mokotoff
I agree with John, I'd probably take that a little further as I am a big fan of Segovia, but lets leave it at that. Segovia was entirely capable of playing rhythmically precise when he was in an ensemble. I wish some of that carried over to his solo playing, but it was a different

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread John Mardinly
Not true! "Segovian usually means unmusical, sloppy, irritating etc." for his solo playing, but when he played with an ensemble, he was forced to be disciplined and musical, like it or not. Just listen to his recordings of Rodrigo's Fantasia para un Gentlehombre, Ponce's Concerto

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread jmpoirier2
So do I ! Well done Diego ! Jean-Marie Envoyé depuis mon appareil Samsung Message d'origine De : Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> Date : 11/10/2016 2:31 PM (GMT+01:00) À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Very nicely played Diego, with taste. I like your version. My congratulations ;) JL > On 11 Oct 2016, at 09:10, Diego Cantalupi wrote: > > Here's my version: > > https://youtu.be/dkPp4pDWGQI > > I used an 'ordinary' archlute. In my opinion there are no problems about >

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Daniel Shoskes
I love this thread. Started as an open ended question about wadyathinkaboutthis and has become a Rorschach test for HIP interpretation. First off, the I in HIP is informed, not identical. As our musicological and historical lutherie evidence grows, we can try to recreate and imitate aspects

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Jarosław Lipski
…so now you’re talking ;) It’s all about mixing aesthetics - old and modern. Why then do you insist on calling it HIP? I played this concerto on several occasions on various historical double strung instruments and we never felt any problems with a proper balance between an ensemble and a

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Diego Cantalupi
Let's say that his playing is quite irritating for me. Inviato da iPhone > Il giorno 11 ott 2016, alle ore 11:46, Roman Turovsky > ha scritto: > > > There is really nothing Segovian about it. > > A Segovian usually means unmusical, sloppy, irritating etc. > > RT > >

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
there are plenty of reasons to use a single-strung archlute, the most obvious of these are the volume, precision and speed that are required by the standards of 21st century HIP orchestral playing. RT On 10/11/2016 4:48 AM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: Sure, I am not criticising anyone. On the

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
There is really nothing Segovian about it. A Segovian usually means unmusical, sloppy, irritating etc. RT On 10/11/2016 5:09 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: The question is different: why one should play a baroque lute concerto on a lute-shaped guitar using an old fashon Segovian style? Il

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Diego Cantalupi
The question is different: why one should play a baroque lute concerto on a lute-shaped guitar using an old fashon Segovian style? Il 11/10/2016 10:47, Jarosław Lipski ha scritto: On 11 Oct 2016, at 01:37, Roman Turovsky wrote: Not really. There are a lot of factors

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Jarosław Lipski
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 01:37, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > Not really. There are a lot of factors in LF manufacture that are absent is > this. > > Many people play single-strung archlutes with nails, some without. Stephen > Stubbs with, Konrad Junghaenel and Konstantin

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-11 Thread Diego Cantalupi
Here's my version: https://youtu.be/dkPp4pDWGQI I used an 'ordinary' archlute. In my opinion there are no problems about single or double strings, but mainly about good taste and esthetic. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Not really. There are a lot of factors in LF manufacture that are absent is this. Many people play single-strung archlutes with nails, some without. Stephen Stubbs with, Konrad Junghaenel and Konstantin Bozhinov without. RT On 10/10/2016 5:33 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: Name it as you like,

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Robert Gallagher
Greetings all. I’m not even the last guy you would ask for an opinion on historical authenticity, but I have several times played this concerto on classical guitar, accompanied by both piano and string ensemble. My read is that this is a musically very satisfying performance. I really

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Name it as you like, for me it’s a Liuto forte. There is another version of RV93 played by Luca here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB101T_sVog The whole instrument is single strung again, and the evidence for this type of archlute stringing is

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 10/10/2016 22:28, Roman Turovsky wrote: on a good authority of RT. Luca has at least 2 of these, one with a much longer extension. RT On 10/10/2016 4:16 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory? JL On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
on a good authority of RT. Luca has at least 2 of these, one with a much longer extension. RT On 10/10/2016 4:16 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory? JL On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky wrote: It is certainly NOT a

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread G. C.
I must say, the sound was more guitar than lute like G. On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:29 PM, fournierbru <[1]fournier...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello all I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu lute concerto I found on YouTube.

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory? JL > On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > It is certainly NOT a liuto-forte, but a single-strung archlute by Luc Breton. > RT > > On 10/10/2016 2:06 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: >> The instrument in

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
It is certainly NOT a liuto-forte, but a single-strung archlute by Luc Breton. RT On 10/10/2016 2:06 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: The instrument in question is not an archlute or liuto attiorbato, but a liuto forte. Some lute players like Luca Pianca, Luciano Contini, Eric Bellocq and many

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Richard Brook
Great I thought. Very lute-like, and I’ve heard all the others. Dick Brook > On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: > > On 10/10/2016 15:29, fournierbru wrote: >> Hello all >> >>I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu lute >>

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Richard Brook
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: > > On 10/10/2016 15:29, fournierbru wrote: >> Hello all >> >>I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu lute >>concerto I found on YouTube. >> >>https://youtu.be/u9m3ghjN0RE >>

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Sean Smith
But, … doubled gut frets! I was struck by how classical guitar-like the fretboard was. Then I kept thinking the extension would probably have to be longer on a HIP instrument. Now I know. Thanks. Hull and spars notwithstanding, am I right in imagining the rigging isn’t very different from a

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Jarosław Lipski
The instrument in question is not an archlute or liuto attiorbato, but a liuto forte. Some lute players like Luca Pianca, Luciano Contini, Eric Bellocq and many others use it, however I would be far from saying that this is a historical instrument - see here

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Some years ago I was so lucky as to listen to Luca Pianca on this instrument accompanying Chr. Prégardien with Schumann songs. I can assure you, that was HIP! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Paolo Busato
actual information. __ From: Matthew Daillie [3]<[2]dail...@club-internet.fr> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:11 PM To: Ron Andrico Cc: fournierbru; [[4]3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread John Mardinly
Excellent "Thumb Out" playing. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the lab….I won't be there! On Oct 10, 2016, at 6:29 AM,

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Charles Mokotoff
I like it! :) On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 12:23 PM, howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Diego Cantalupi <[2]tio...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The main problem to me, is that the concerto is played in C, and not. in D. >

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread howard posner
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > As far as I can tell, single stringing was sometimes used by the old > ones I’ve always assumed that someone in the 1600’s and 1700’s must have single-strung their lutes for the same reasons some modern players do,

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread howard posner
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: > > The main problem to me, is that the concerto is played in C, and not. in D. > It's easier on a G archlute, but sounds to me very strange for the violins. Luca plays an archlute/liuto attiorbato in A. I believe

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Edward Martin
..@club-internet.fr> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:11 PM To: Ron Andrico Cc: fournierbru; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto I'm not in the least bit surprised that our opinions and tastes differ Ron. Mat

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 10/10/2016 17:14, Ron Andrico wrote: The only bit of opinion in my previous message was that I thought Luca Pianca's performance was musical. The rest is supported by factual information. I'll let you have the last word To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Diego Cantalupi
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:11 PM > To: Ron Andrico > Cc: fournierbru; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto > > I'm not in the least bit surprised that our opinions and tastes differ > Ron. > Matthew >> On Oct 10, 2

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Matthew Daillie
___ > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:54 PM > To: fournierbru; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto

2016-10-10 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 10/10/2016 15:29, fournierbru wrote: Hello all I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu lute concerto I found on YouTube. https://youtu.be/u9m3ghjN0RE BRUNO Not my cup of tea. He's using what looks like a single strung 13-course liuto forte, very

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi RV540 webcast

2015-04-23 Thread Ed Durbrow
What a great group. I really enjoyed all the performances. On Apr 19, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Konstantin Shchenikov konstantin.n...@gmail.com wrote: Dear colleagues! I am proud to present webcast recording of last concert I've took a part. We played a lot of Italiat XVIII c music in Tchaikovsky

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi RV540 webcast

2015-04-19 Thread Braig, Eugene
Greetings Konstantin, First, bravo! I sincerely enjoyed. Your playing and tone are nicely balanced in ensemble. That said, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don't think there is any evidence to imply RV 540 was intended for mandolin. If anything, I would argue that the conventional

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi complete lute works

2014-09-04 Thread David Smith
Try http://www.fondazionearcadia.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=108%3Aconcerti-e-trii-per-liuto-e-mandolino-catid=50%3Acatalogo-pubblicazioniItemid=72lang=en David Sent from my iPad On Sep 4, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Mumin Lute lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com wrote: Dear

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi complete lute works

2014-09-04 Thread David Smith
Or http://www.alle-noten.de/en/Trii-E-Concerti-per-Liuto-Sheet-Music-MK18406-Carisch/c9lqiriu to purchase Sent from my iPad On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:41 AM, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote: Try

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-03 Thread Edward C. Yong
Hi Howard, Thanks for the reply! On 2 Sep, 2014, at 1:51 AM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com wrote: Style and taste question - do you think an archlute or a baroque guitar would be better for this? Impossible

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hi Edward, I played this piece with a professional modern orchestra a couple of years ago. I don't remember anything about the presence or absence of figures. Most Italians from Vivaldi's period didn't notate many figures since it was expected that performers were so familiar with

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread Edward C. Yong
Dear Christopher, If you could make a version with figures available, I'd be very very grateful! Style and taste question - do you think an archlute or a baroque guitar would be better for this? Edward Chrysogonus Yong edward.y...@gmail.com On 1 Sep, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Christopher Wilke

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
It being in g - archlute methinks. RT On 9/1/2014 11:44 AM, Edward C. Yong wrote: Dear Christopher, If you could make a version with figures available, I'd be very very grateful! Style and taste question - do you think an archlute or a baroque guitar would be better for this? Edward

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2014-09-01, 11:15 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: I played this piece with a professional modern orchestra a couple of years ago. I don't remember anything about the presence or absence of figures. Most Italians from Vivaldi's period didn't notate many figures since it was

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread howard posner
On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com wrote: Style and taste question - do you think an archlute or a baroque guitar would be better for this? Impossible to answer that question in a vacuum. It depends on your particular instruments and ability (is your guitar

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm working on it! Martyn __ From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2014, 17:21 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute .And I also tend to agree

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Braig, Eugene
To: Braig, Eugene Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute Thank you all for your interesring comments! Just to clarify, I played RV 93 and RV 540 several times on my archlute and it was OK as for me as for the other musicians and listeners. But now an ensemble engaged me for RV 540

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Braig, Eugene
] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:03 AM To: Braig, Eugene; lute list Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute I'm working on it! Martyn __ From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:03 AM To: Braig, Eugene; lute list Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute I'm working on it! Martyn __ From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu To: lute list lute

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Braig, Eugene
] On Behalf Of Martyn Hodgson Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:38 AM To: Braig, Eugene; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute Yes indeed Eugene, This is one of the very instruments I had in mind when earlier referring to extant Italian instruments newly made in the 18th century

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-05 Thread Braig, Eugene
- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Durbrow Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 7:50 PM To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute You should ask Hideki Yamaya. He's done quite a bit with it. I can't keep all the names and instruments straight

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread Braig, Eugene
Greetings Konstantin, This topic has received some discussion here in the past, at least peripherally. Searching the archives might reveal some discussion of interest. I don't think the treble mandore/mandora/mandwr/what-have-you was in very widespread use by Vivaldi's time, certainly not in

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread howard posner
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu wrote: On O'Dette's recording of the Vivaldi works with the Parley of Instruments (1986, Hyperion CDA66160), he speculated the works to designate mandolino to be intended for the five or six course mandolino (i.e.,

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Wednesday, 4 June 2014, 15:50 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute Greetings Konstantin, This topic has received some discussion here in the past, at least peripherally. Searching the archives might reveal some discussion of interest. I don't think the treble mandore/mandora

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread Braig, Eugene
Indeed. He now concertizes playing Vivaldi's lute works on archlute. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:30 AM To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread Braig, Eugene
From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:30 AM To: Braig, Eugene; lute list Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute Dear Eugene, Without wanting to re-open a debate of over 10 years ago, despite Count Wrtby's origins I'm a bit sceptical

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread Ed Durbrow
You should ask Hideki Yamaya. He’s done quite a bit with it. I can’t keep all the names and instruments straight in my mind, but I think you should ask Hideki Yamaya. He’s done quite a bit with such instruments. http://www.hyamaya.com On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Konstantin Shchenikov

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-16 Thread Arthur Ness
PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi FYI, the concerto in G for two mandolins (RV 532) is a different work than the truly grosso grosso in C naming every imaginable soloist (RV 558). Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-16 Thread Braig, Eugene
, October 16, 2013 5:47 PM To: Braig, Eugene; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Dear Eugene, I did not say RV 532 (G major) and RV 558 (C major) are the same work. The ISMLP editor alleges a second version of RV 532. Take a look at his/her entries for RV 532 and scroll down

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-16 Thread howard posner
Arthur Ness wrote: Vivaldi also composed three concertos for violino in tromba marina (RV 211, 311 and 313). This fiddle-like instrument, which was popular at the Piet`a, has three strings tied to a floating bridge, which produces a raspy sound according to Michael Talbot. The

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-14 Thread Braig, Eugene
:08 AM To: Mayes, Joseph Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi perhaps here? `http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_%28Vivaldi,_Antonio%29 Am 13.10.2013 03:06, schrieb Mayes

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-14 Thread Braig, Eugene
, October 13, 2013 1:15 PM To: Mayes, Joseph; Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi It's available in the International Music Library Project (EU): http://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Vivaldi%2C%20Antoniofrom=C http://imslp.eu/download.php?file=files/imglnks/euimg/8/81/IMSLP134924-PMLP237520

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-14 Thread Braig, Eugene
Oops. Please pardon my reading-the-list-and-replying-in-sequence-oversight redundancy. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:35 PM To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-14 Thread Mayes, Joseph
:08 AM To: Mayes, Joseph Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi perhaps here? `http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_(Vivaldi,_A ntonio) http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_%28Vivaldi, _Antonio%29 Am 13.10.2013 03:06

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-14 Thread Braig, Eugene
Ha! I think you mean semi-infamous. Have fun out there. Eugene -Original Message- From: Mayes, Joseph [mailto:ma...@rowan.edu] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:00 PM To: Braig, Eugene; Lutelist Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi I guess I must fess-up to the fact

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-13 Thread Bernd Haegemann
perhaps here? `http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_%28Vivaldi,_Antonio%29 Am 13.10.2013 03:06, schrieb Mayes, Joseph: Two of my students are playing the G major concerto for

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-13 Thread Christopher Wilke
Joe, Have you tried: http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Mandolins_in_G_major,_RV_532_(Vivaldi,_Antonio) I have no idea of the quality of these editions. You can download the score and parts. I see there is a part for organ which is most likely what you're after. Chris Dr.

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-13 Thread Arthur Ness
It's available in the International Music Library Project (EU): http://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Vivaldi%2C%20Antoniofrom=C http://imslp.eu/download.php?file=files/imglnks/euimg/8/81/IMSLP134924-PMLP237520-Vivaldi_Concerto_2mandolins_RV532.pdf This score is clearer and has PARTS:

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-13 Thread howard posner
Hi Arthur: Might you you be confusing the concerto in G, RV 532 with the Noah's Ark (for lots of pairs of instruments) concerto in C, R 558? On Oct 13, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net wrote: But notice the original instrumentation includes 2 Salmo (=chalumeaux), 2

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2013-10-13 Thread Arthur Ness
From: Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Hello Howard, I was relying on Robbin Landon, as quoted in the entry for RV 558 (G major), cited here at the red band: http://imslp.org

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto RV 93 again - live rec.

2011-11-07 Thread Edward Mast
Thank you for posting this fine performance. The lovely sound of the lute came through on the recording, though a bit subdued as one would expect. I hope it did as well for the audience; it must be difficult to project a lute's sound into a large hall. On Nov 6, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Anna

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi trio RV85

2011-07-14 Thread Stephan Olbertz
For 24 Euro you get them all, see below. Regards Stephan --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --- Von: Fabio Rizza fabio_ri...@alice.it An: baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Kopie: Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Vivaldi - Concertos and Trios for Lute and Mandolin Datum: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:55:05 +0200

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi trio RV85

2011-07-14 Thread G. Crona
http://luthlibrairie.free.fr/?Divers - Original Message - From: Henry Villca henry_l...@yahoo.com To: Lute net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Vivaldi trio RV85 Dear lute players, Hope this letter finds you

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi trio RV85

2011-07-14 Thread David Smith
[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stephan Olbertz Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:59 AM To: Lute net; Henry Villca Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi trio RV85 For 24 Euro you get them all, see below. Regards Stephan --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --- Von: Fabio Rizza fabio_ri...@alice.it

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-04-17 Thread David Tayler
The Allegro of the Vivialdi Double is now online--a real toe-tapper :) http://youtu.be/yF1AfeWwWQA?hd=1 dt At 04:09 PM 2/8/2011, you wrote: Very nice, David. I played continuo on that piece at least 2 times in the past, and it is gorgeous. ed At 12:23 PM 2/8/2011, David Tayler wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-02-09 Thread David Tayler
Arto-- I will make an edition without the tenor clefs--good idea. dt At 11:55 AM 2/8/2011, you wrote: Dive into the _listening_ of continuo? Any link to the written music? Beautiful, though. ;-) Thanks! Arto On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:23:56 -0800, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: For

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-02-08 Thread wikla
Dive into the _listening_ of continuo? Any link to the written music? Beautiful, though. ;-) Thanks! Arto On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:23:56 -0800, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: For those wishing to dive into continuo, the slow movement of the concerto for two cellos in G Minor is an

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-02-08 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Dive into the _listening_ of continuo? Any link to the written music? That is already the 2. dan of Continuo: no numbers + no notes :-)= To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-02-08 Thread Edward Martin
Very nice, David. I played continuo on that piece at least 2 times in the past, and it is gorgeous. ed At 12:23 PM 2/8/2011, David Tayler wrote: For those wishing to dive into continuo, the slow movement of the concerto for two cellos in G Minor is an excellent piece to work on, and it lies

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi RV 588

2009-06-18 Thread David van Ooijen
My mistake, quickly pointed out by Albert Reyerman: it's RV 558 aka the concerto con molti instrumenti. David - should be wearing his glasses ... On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM, David van Ooijendavidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm to play in this party piece in two weeks. Fun! :-) It has two

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi RV 588

2009-06-18 Thread Sal Salvaggio
This is the Noah's Ark one. I would probably use the Arch lute - and probably be bull whipped by purists in the process - SS --- On Thu, 6/18/09, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Vivaldi RV 588

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi on the lute

2008-05-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Sauvage Valéry wrote: For Arto, there is this one on Youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6iuo5lvzI Hey, this is fun! ;-) Thanks! Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-16 Thread Rob MacKillop
I have uploaded to the new Lute online community a keyboard arrangement of the string parts to Vivaldi's D Major concerto for lute - useful for practising with a harpsichord. http://lutegroup.ning.com/ Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi on the lute

2008-05-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:26 AM 5/16/2008, Sauvage Valéry wrote: For Arto, there is this one on Youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6iuo5lvzI Ha, that worked surprisingly well! However, I'm not too keen on the accompaniment of excessive wind noise. Eugene To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:48 AM 5/16/2008, Mathias Rösel wrote: 'twas the hey-day of the lute in Prague, that's for sure. I doubt, however, that it was the lute which Vivaldi had in mind when he used violin clef in his score. Ask Eric, not me, he's the expert. Whatever instrument Vivaldi had in mind, I don't

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-16 Thread Arkadia Trio
- Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTELIST List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo Whatever instrument Vivaldi had in mind, I don't think the treble clef was anything more than

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-15 Thread wikla
I wrote My intabulation is written so that if you play it by an A-lute in renaissance tuning, you get the original key of D-major. Or if you just call your first string a, you may call the key of my arr D-major.. :-) [...] The midi versions assume a G-lute in renaissance tuning. So the

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-15 Thread howard posner
On May 15, 2008, at 9:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, is it known, in which pitch Vivaldi's orchestra was using? The short answer is no. To answer the question, we'd have to be sure where he was when he wrote it (he toured around a great deal) and assume he intended the pitch

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-15 Thread LGS-Europe
By the way, is it known, in which pitch Vivaldi's orchestra was using? The short answer is no. To answer the question, we'd have to be sure where he was when he wrote it (he toured around a great deal) Search the archives. Last year (?) the collected wisdom answered my queries about this

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