[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-03 Thread Rob MacKillop
Stainer and Bell in the UK have published all Dowland's songs in reliable modern editions - including lute tablature and transcription: http://www.stainer.co.uk/dowland.html Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-03 Thread Taco Walstra
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 21:53, Christopher Stetson rattled on the keyboard: Here are links for the Dover editions: http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm Take care with these

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Rob all: I have to say that one must approach even the sainted SB editions with a bit of caution. The poetry retains many of the 'corrections' perpetrated by Fellows, who should be commended for his pioneering work but scolded for messing with the texts. It is worth the bother to

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Rob Sorry, I can't quite leave-off, you got me thinking too much. Of course, like everyone else, I can't help thinking about what lute I would like next, but also, how I wish I was a little more focussed and less dilettante (imore in the French use of this word (i.e. going where

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Anthony and All, I assume the Martin you refer to is me. I don't remember ever saying that I thought Dowland changed from 7c to 9c without ever using an 8c, or that any of these changes coincided with his change from TI to TO. We simply don't know the answer to any of these questions.

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Doc Rossi
On Apr 3, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Rob Sorry, I can't quite leave-off, you got me thinking too much. Of course, like everyone else, I can't help thinking about what lute I would like next, but also, how I wish I was a little more focussed and less dilettante (imore in the

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-03 Thread Rob MacKillop
I bow to your superior knowledge, Ron. It is an area I will be looking into eventually. The SB editions seem a good place to start, plus the facsimiles. Have the Poulton biog. Rob On 03/04/2008, Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rob all: I have to say that one must approach even

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Martin
Jean-Marie, I am glad somebody agrees with me on this issue. Theis topic, 8 course lutes, was discussed some tome ago on this list. I also have an 8 course lute., and I like it ever so much more than a 7 course lute I once had. ed At 01:02 PM 4/3/2008 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Valéry Sauvage
Should we make a Club of the 8 course proud users ? Val (is it an half penny idea ?) ;-))) - Original Message - From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 7c at

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Martin I think quick and rather careless reading throughof this dialoque between yourself and Ed, brought me to the conclusion that you were suggesting Dowland might have gone from 7c to 9c. Nevertheless, i knew I had read something that gave me that idea:

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Jean-Marie and Ed, No derogatory remarks have come from me on the 8c. Again, I would just like to say that if someone is hoping to play Francesco and Dowland on the same lute, then 7c is surely the better choice, with the 7c in D, that covers much 8c music with the possibility of

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Ok Valéry, get your Lagavulin ready then !!! ;-) Jean-Marie === 03-04-2008 14:02:30 === Should we make a Club of the 8 course proud users ? Val (is it an half penny idea ?) ;-))) - Original Message - From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Yes and often using wire-wounds, However, Jacob Heringman, if we begin naming names, specializes in this repertoire. Anhtony Le 3 avr. 08 à 15:54, Nigel Solomon a écrit : Anthony Hind wrote: Jean-Marie and Ed, No derogatory remarks have come from me on the 8c. Again, I would just

[LUTE] Re: Publishers of Contemporary Lute Music

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Durbrow
In a very brief reading, I found the music pleasant and quite idiomatic. I'll look at more on another day when it isn't bedtime. In way of constructive criticism, I would say forget the two part rhythmic signs. That is very confusing and counter-intuitive. All traditional lute music is

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
No problem, Anthony. I did not feel fussed at all about this 8c business. I quite understand what you mean, but my conclusion will nevertheless be that a compromise will remain a compromise, i.e. something imperfect and by nature unsatisfying... So, after that, it's only a matter of how much

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
I think we can agree on that, but probably not my Bank manager, who really turns out to be my good lady wife ... I am having trouble persuading her that a 10c might be an absolute necessity, without which life would become utter gloom and doom. And as you say, a compromise is always that,

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread jelcox
Count me in, Val Kerry Valéry Sauvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we make a Club of the 8 course proud users ? Val (is it an half penny idea ?) ;-))) - Original Message - From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute

[LUTE] 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread Stewart McCoy
Jean-Marie and Val, I wrote recently in support of the 8-course lute. There are many advantages, and unless you want a house full of lutes, it is a good, all-purpose instrument. That's my hap'orth. My previous exposition on the subject was worth more like tuppence or thruppence. Best wishes,

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread David Tayler
I continue to hold the unpopular view that the eight course may slightly slow musical development: If you have any interest in continuo, the non linear bass is a hurdle, and if you wish to play 10c, archlute or theorbo, the course memorization for the bass courses is slowed a bit: you have to

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread Anthony Hind
David You forgot two of my favourite whiskies, Bruichladdich and Clynelish. A friend of mine found a very ancient Bruichladdich at Edinburgh University Celtic association, and was bringing it back to Paris, when at the exit of a tube gate, he found a person in a wheel chair who

[LUTE] Re: 8 course Islay malts

2008-04-03 Thread Valéry Sauvage
Bruichladdich is also an Islay malt, as the one prefered by David, you can also add Bunnahabhain, Coal Ila and Port Ellen (sleeping distillery, very hard to find a botlle of) and you will have the four other course of an eight course Islay lute wisky (Am I melting everything ?) My preference

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread Rob MacKillop
I have a friend I push around in a wheel chair. We pull that trick every time. Suckers! Rob On 03/04/2008, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David You forgot two of my favourite whiskies, Bruichladdich and Clynelish. A friend of mine found a very ancient Bruichladdich at

[LUTE] Re: 8-course club; was 7c at 64cms

2008-04-03 Thread Leonard Williams
I'm in! Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * | \_=_/ On 4/3/08 8:02 AM, Valéry Sauvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we make a Club of the 8 course proud users ? Val (is it an half penny idea ?) ;-))) - Original Message - From:

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Martin
I realize that many of our current lute list members do not care for the 8 course lute, but I really like mine. One thin, for those using a reason of too much resonance on my French CD of all 6 course music, I used an 8 course lute, all in gut, with octaves on 4,5, 6. It fooled most, who

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Martin
It's all fire-water to me. ed At 09:03 PM 4/3/2008 +0200, Anthony Hind wrote: David You forgot two of my favourite whiskies, Bruichladdich and Clynelish. A friend of mine found a very ancient Bruichladdich at Edinburgh University Celtic association, and was bringing it back to Paris,

[LUTE] Re: rocha fuso

2008-04-03 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Bernd, My guess is that La rocha el fuso originated as a Venetian dance-song like several other mainstays of the Italian repertoire - for example 'la Traditora' and 'la cara cossa.' An interesting blend of street song and dance that became popular standards for several decades, appearing in

[LUTE] Re: rocha fuso

2008-04-03 Thread Arthur Ness
- Original Message - From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Bernd Haegemann' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'LuteNet list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: rocha fuso Dear Bernd, My guess is that La rocha el fuso originated as a Venetian

[LUTE] Re: rocha fuso

2008-04-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you, Arthur, for sharing this exciting memory about the Donaueschingen Manuscript. Fascinating, as susual ! All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier Dear Bernd and Denys, That is most likely a Venetian street song. El fuso is Venetian dialect (NOT Spanish as in RISM for Munich 1511B!!!sigh).