[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Edward C. Yong
I think that depends on what sort of context in which you intended to replace the theorbo with a Renaissance lute. If you’re thinking of providing accompaniment for a singer in a domestic context, the lute can play the notes, just not the low octaves at cadences. Any more than that, the

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Wilke
Ren lute is absolutely fine. When I played in the Collegium at Eastman, Paul (O'Dette) occasionally sat in with us continuo players. He always used his 8 course because he said it was easier to conduct without the long neck. In addition to this, the instrument handles modulations

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2014-11-03, 8:18 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Ren lute is absolutely fine. When I played in the Collegium at Eastman, Paul (O'Dette) occasionally sat in with us continuo players. He always used his 8 course I played continuo on my 7-course renaissance lute for many years in a

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
If you believe the lute 'works well' and is 'quite audible' for continuo in ensemble, such as that required for a Bach harpsichord concerto, why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? __ From: Geoff Gaherty

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2014-11-03, 10:47 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: If you believe the lute 'works well' and is 'quite audible' for continuo in ensemble, such as that required for a Bach harpsichord concerto, why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? Oh, certainly, an archlute or theorbo is

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Wilke
Martyn, On Mon, 11/3/14, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:    If you believe the lute 'works well'  and is 'quite audible' for    continuo in ensemble, such as that required for a Bach harpsichord    concerto, why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? I've often wondered

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread howard posner
On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? Well, one clue is that the first theorbo design was commissioned in 1595 by the Marketing Committee of the Pan-Italian Chiropractors Association. To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Roland Hayes
I suggest its origins were for the solo singer to accompany himself (Peri, Caccini, others in Italy ca. 1600). Salamone Rossi calls for it in instrumental dances very early, and it makes sense with one on a part strings - the chords and the basses plucked really stand out. From there to the

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Mayes, Joseph
To find out why the theorbo was invented, you'd have to ask the inventor: Rube Goldberg JM On 11/3/14 11:56 AM, Roland Hayes rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org wrote: I suggest its origins were for the solo singer to accompany himself (Peri, Caccini, others in Italy ca. 1600). Salamone Rossi calls

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Wilke
I think the real reason for the invention of the theorbo was to provide easy fodder for an unending stream of juvenile phallic jokes. My favorite was after a rehearsal for Monteverdi's Vespers. One of the singers, a very attractive young lady, came up to me and said, Oo, that

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Heartistry Old
Pluck on, Chris We're all just pluckers in the grand scheme ... Tom Tom Draughon Heartistry Music www.heartistry.com 715-682-9362 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: I think the real reason for the invention of

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread Dan Winheld
On 11/3/2014 8:57 AM, howard posner wrote: On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? Well, one clue is that the first theorbo design was commissioned in 1595 by the Marketing Committee of the Pan-Italian