[Mailman-Users] How to slow down delivery rate
I run a couple of small lists and for some time have been getting bounces from my outgoing server saying I am exceeding the maximum # of emails per hour. — This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a temporary error. The following address(es) deferred: addr...@domain.ca Domain mydomain.ca has exceeded the max emails per hour (112/100 (112%)) allowed. Message will be reattempted later — I have no control over the outgoing server and only minimal control over the Mailman installation. Its on a web host. The emails do eventually go through but I get notifications for every single one that is deferred. Is there any way I can slow down the delivery rate so it is below the 100 / hour threshold? Thanks -Rob- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] One way umbrella list question
On 2015-05-26, 5:41 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 05/25/2015 08:14 AM, Rob Dover wrote: Greetings. I have an installation (2.1.20) that we use for club communications. All club members are explicitly subscribed to the main [members] list. There are also a couple of smaller lists that we use for executive and committee discussions. I would like all members of the master [members] list to have posting privileges to the smaller lists but limit the emails that mailman sends for the smaller lists to only the smaller lists. You don't want umbrella lists. All you need to do is put @members (or whatever the name of the all-members list is preceded with '@') in the Privacy options... - Sender filters - accept_these_nonmembers setting of all the smaller lists. follow the (Details for accept_these_nonmembers) link on the Privacy options... - Sender filters page for more info. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan I have @members in the Sender filters - accept_these_nonmembers but am still getting Post by non-member to a members-only list² despite the poster address being in the master list. Is there another setting somewhere else? This is a private list, would that make any difference? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] One way umbrella list question
Greetings. I have an installation (2.1.20) that we use for club communications. All club members are explicitly subscribed to the main [members] list. There are also a couple of smaller lists that we use for executive and committee discussions. I would like all members of the master [members] list to have posting privileges to the smaller lists but limit the emails that mailman sends for the smaller lists to only the smaller lists. In other words if a member of the exec list posts to the exec list, all members of the executive receive a copy but a regular member would be allowed to post to the executive list but ONLY the executive members would get a copy. As I understand an umbrella list all umbrella members would see all postings. Correct? Can this be done? Thanks -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] adding a logo to the general list info page
I’d like to add a logo to the general list info page. Please excuse the somewhat sophomoric question… I can access the editing interface for the page, but how to add the logo seems a little inscrutable. thanks in advance. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach http://rob.colorist.org http://colorist.org r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a logo to the general list info page
On Jul 6, 2014, at 11:19 AM, billy noah billyn...@zuma-design.com wrote: Suppose you could just insert something like: img width=200 src=http://example.com/my-image.jpg; somewhere in the table? Are you familliar enough with html to understand the table layout? On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org wrote: I’d like to add a logo to the general list info page. Please excuse the somewhat sophomoric question… I can access the editing interface for the page, but how to add the logo seems a little inscrutable. I have been familiar, it’s been a while, thanks for the suggestion, will definitely give it a try. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach http://rob.colorist.org http://colorist.org r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject
On May 7, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: which leaves the Reply-To header as it finds it. Finally, set 'personalize' to 'Full Personalization' which puts the recipient in To. The first two are on the General Options page, the last on the Nondigest Options page. Is it possible the ‘personalize’ option moved elsewhere in 2.1.18-1? I’ve just updated to that version and don’t see it on the Nondigest Options page. Thank you for these suggestions. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach http://rob.colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject
On May 7, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Because personalization can consume a lot of resources, the site admin needs to enable personalization with OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION in mm_cfg.py, then it will show up on the admin site. Thanks. Impressive. -- Rob Lingelbach http://rob.colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Parallel list question
I once set this up long ago on mailman but took it down and now need to do it again but forgot how: Want to have all subscribers to list A receive from, and be able to post to, list B. Purpose is to change the list title shown in the Subject: field, and have different admin options for list B. Thank you in advance. (And while I'm at it, thank you to those who have worked on the DMARC enhancements.) Rob Lingelbach http://colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Parallel list question
On May 3, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 05/02/2014 03:41 PM, Rob Lingelbach wrote: Want to have all subscribers to list A receive from, and be able to post to, list B. Purpose is to change the list title shown in the Subject: field, and have different admin options for list B. Since you want the list A subscribers to get the list A subject_prefix for posts to list B, I should have been clearer that I do want list B's subject_prefix to change. I think I can work it out now based on your suggestions... Incidentally, this brings up (what might be considered) a sophomoric question: how to copy a list's config over to a test version of that list, without copying over the member list? Probably a FAQ that I should be aware of... Now back to understanding the conditions I should implement for an active 2000+ member list on the anvil of DMARC. Thanks again -- Rob Lingelbach http://colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails
On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Manuel Weiel wrote: I've released an updated, that checks both common list names (test and test_example.com in this example), clarifies the settings and fixes some small things. Also it allows the reordering of lists. The update is now live in the AppStore. http://cl.ly/DyCl I'm currently working on adding the ability to add people to the list (including address-book support) and also modifying/deleting someone. Best regards, Manuel Weiel Keep up the great work, I'm using the app daily now! -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails
I have just purchased the app and am having difficulty with configuration: Mail Address is my address? Or the list's mail address? Password is the moderation password? Under Advanced Options: URL is the server URL? e.g. server.lists.org? Or does it need to be http://server.lists.org? or even http://server.lists.org/mailman/admin Thanks, looking forward to getting this working! -Rob On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Manuel Weiel wrote: Hello, I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it useful: I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists. You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation requests. The app shows details about every mail like size, preview of the mail and moderation reason and you can approve/reject/discard the mail(s). iMailModerate is available on the AppStore for 0,99$. http://cl.ly/DyCl Best regards, Manuel Weiel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pennguin%40mac.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Change of member address via web fails
Yes, becoming familiar with the command line functions (particularly find_member, add_members, remove_members, and clone_member) has made life so much easier. I used to do everything via the web interface and it is just amazing how many users won't even bother to click a confirmation link to finalize an address update! -Rob On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Kaja Podlaska Christiansen wrote: I have tried the following: - as a list admin, go to the administrative interface - Membership List - click on the email address to be changed - enter new address (twice) and submit 'Change My Address...' - click 'Submit My Changes' However, the email address remains unchanged... I'm running Mailman 2.1.14. When you change a member's address in this way, a confirmation request is sent to the new address, and the address is not changed until the user confirms. Even as list admin, you cannot change a member's address from the web without user confirmation. The way to change a member's address without confirmation is via the Mailman command line tool bin/clone_member. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pennguin%40mac.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Log of rejected messages?
Does mailman log posts which are automatically rejected (e.g. non-member posts)? I assumed that it would in the post log file, but I just tested it and my intentionally rejected submission does not appear in the log file. I ask because on occasion a list member complains that their message was rejected inappropriately, and in fact they never sent it to the list, or they sent it to the wrong address, or they sent it from the wrong address, and it helps to be able to look at a log file and verify or refute their claim, particularly given that they almost invariably delete the rejection notice the instant it arrives. Thanks, -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rear interior lights not working
Bernie, 1) Probably the wrong list… this list is for users of the Mailman mailing list software. 2) I would first check your fuses to see if it might be a blown fuse. If not, then the switch would be the next most likely culprit, but as you say it could actually be two bad bulbs; I've had that happen. Good luck! -Rob On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: 2003 1.8T. I happened to notice the other day that the rear interior lights don't work any more. I don't normally notice them so I dont' know how long they've been out [but I was vaguely aware that it was a bit darker in the car when I opened the doors]. They have three-way tilt switches [I assume: on/dooropen/off] and no setting of the switch gets either driver or passenger light to come on. [so not likely a burned out bulb, unless both rear bulbs burned out at the same time]. Is this something I could (try to) fix or should I just wait until my next trip to the dealer? Thanks! /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell Fantasy Farm Fibers mailto:ber...@fantasyfarm.com Pearisburg, VA -- Too many people, too few sheep -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pennguin%40mac.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How do I assign a default password when doing mass subscriptions
Hi, I'm setting up a mailman list for the folks over in the anthropology department and they have a list of around email addresses that they wish to initially subscribe. How do I assign a default password to each subscriber so they can get in via the web interface and change preferences, access private archives, etc? Thanks. Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville Oregon ITS will never ask you for your password. Please don’t share yours with anyone! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] very elementary question
this is embarrassing. but I haven't done it in years, and have forgotten. How do I change an individual user's preferences- specifically switch him from MIME to plain-text digests? (forgive me the lapse of memory) Rob Lingelbach -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] very elementary question
please forgive me I found it of course On Dec 6, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Rob Lingelbach wrote: this is embarrassing. but I haven't done it in years, and have forgotten. How do I change an individual user's preferences- specifically switch him from MIME to plain-text digests? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MIME digests problem?
could the following be directly related to the toggle between MIME digests and plain-text ones? (herewith the question) I've been using mailman for a very long time, since I migrated from SmartList maybe 12 years ago. I have a multi-question topic that takes a few questions and combines them into a cohesive whole. This is what I'd like to ask: 1) My main mailinglist runs to about 2000 subscribers. I would say perhaps it's evenly split between those who would like to have something more blog-ish (web-based) and those who would like to have it remain email-based. However, I've just noticed something on a user's cellphone-based email and their web-based email; this is one of the people who would like me to move the whole interface to Facebook. (and I have spent years developing the wiki associated with this mailinglist!). (see http://www.colorist.org/wiki ) Now I think FB has its place, but this is a professional forum where almost instantaneous answers that come from mailman's email-based design are very valuable to that half of the community who use it for asking important questions that are answered in literally, a moment or two. Yet I just looked at this particular user's celphone (Android) message queue, (he subscribes to the digest) and saw that the digests he's getting are empty attachments indicating 2k in leng th (I forced one out that is about 8 pages to test). Then he also complained that on Earthlink's Webmail he gets his digests not with concatenated text like I'm used to seeing, but with no text in the message and instead, an Attachments header that lists each message (horizontally) as Forwarded message Forwarded message etc. (which when clicked, show the messages, supposedly). He hates this of course. For what it's worth, he says Outlook exhibits the same behavior as Earthlink's Webmail. So I'm wondering, has something changed in the way the RFCs are not being honored; are digests not 'homogenous' across platforms any more; is there a way to fix this behavior which may be affecting others? Thank you to Barry, et al., for maintaining Mailman. btw I'm running 2.1.12 on CentOS. Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] add_members question
I would like to be able to add individual members to lists from the command line, but I can't figure out the syntax exactly. I don't want to designate a file of list names; this is just to add single members without using the web interface. If I type ./add_members -wn -r - listname the shell pauses as if waiting for my input, but nothing I type has any effect. Thanks, -Rob McLear -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members question
That works! Thanks! -Rob On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Geoff Shang wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Rob McLear wrote: If I type ./add_members -wn -r - listname the shell pauses as if waiting for my input, but nothing I type has any effect. Try pressing control-d after you've finished typing, this is the unix end-of-file character. Geoff. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] User Management
I don't have a solution for adding new users easily, but removing them is easy from the command line: ./remove_members --fromall j...@gmail.com -Rob On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Douglas D. J. de Macedo wrote: Hi people, I would like to know more about user management on Mailman system. My problem is that I have more than 50 lists and every time time that one of the users go out of the company I have to go one per one list removing this user. And the other way, when a new person get a job here I have to sign their email list per list .. So there are some tool to help me? Thanks in advance. Doug -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pennguin%40mac.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating content to a new list
On Jul 15, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 7/15/2011 1:48 PM, Rob wrote: I think there are two ways to handle this. Both involve making a copy of archives/private/oldlist.mbox/oldlist.mbox and editing it (or perhaps opening it with mutt or similar) and deleting those messages you don't want available on newlist. So you end up with a mailbox with only those posts you want available to newlist. Then, if there haven't yet been any posts to newlist, just save that mailbox as archives/private/newlist.mbox/newlist.mbox making sure it's group is the mailman group, and run 'bin/arch --wipe newlist' to seed the newlist archive with the old posts. Or, if there have been posts to newlist, combine the mailbox with archives/private/newlist.mbox/newlist.mbox and run 'bin/arch --wipe newlist' to add those posts to the newlist archive. Mark, That worked, thanks. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Message approval by mail
I am trying to use the option to approve moderated messages using the 'reply' feature but it doesn't seem to work for me. I add the Approved:password header to my reply as the first line in the body, but the message simply arrives back in my inbox unmodified, and the moderated message stays in the queue until I approve it with the web interface. Running v2.1.14 Thanks, -Rob An example of an outgoing 'approval' message is below: Return-Path: mailman-boun...@acvr.org Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by acvr.org (Cyrus v2.3.8-OS X Server 10.5:9G7013y) with LMTPA; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73783962E for treasu...@acvr.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org Delivered-To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org Received: from [192.168.42.17] (office.petrad.com [173.12.22.82]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE7839623 for xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Xservetestlist post from mcl...@petrad.com requires approval From: Robert C. McLear, ACVR Treasurer treasu...@acvr.org In-Reply-To: mailman.136.1310738529.140.xservetestl...@acvr.org Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: a185c472-b229-458b-b579-a001168a1...@acvr.org References: mailman.136.1310738529.140.xservetestl...@acvr.org To: xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Errors-To: mailman-boun...@acvr.org Sender: mailman-boun...@acvr.org Approved: On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, xservetestlist-ow...@acvr.org wrote: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List:xservetestl...@acvr.org From:mcl...@petrad.com Subject: test Reason: Post to moderated list At your convenience, visit: http://www.acvr.org/mailman/admindb/xservetestlist to approve or deny the request. From: Robert McLear mcl...@petrad.com Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:02 AM EDT To: xservetestl...@acvr.org Subject: test test From: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the reply. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message approval by mail
From: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the reply. You need to reply to the above attached message. Depending on your MUA, you may be able to open this as a separate message and reply to it. If you can't do this, you have to just compose a message To: xservetestlist-requ...@acvr.org with Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b containing the Approved: ... line to accept the post or without the Approved: ... line to discard it. OK, now I understand. Apple Mail just displays the entire message together, not as separate parts. I can't reply directly but clicking the list-email address and just copy/pasting the subject works just as well. Thanks! -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Migrating content to a new list
Hi, We have just created a new list in Mailman 2.1.14 to handle a specific set of discussions that were previously taking place on another list hosted on the same server. The membership of the new list is much broader than the old list, so many of its members have had no exposure to the recent discussions. Is there a way that I can use the archives of 'oldlist' and send out the past month's worth of discussions to 'newlist' so that the members are all up to date on the recent conversations? It's not feasible to just make the archives public because not all of the content is pertinent to all the members of 'newlist'. Thanks, -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation Bit ?
On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Wayne Cook wrote: Hopefully, someone can answer this for me again. I don't set many lists up and thought I had saves what I'd been told once before :( When people subscribe to my list, the moderation bit isn't set, but I'd like the members moderation bit to be set by default. I can't find where to set that default setting...can anyone help me? Mailman version 2.1.5 Thanks Wayne Privacy options… Sender Filters, first line of that settings page. I always forget where that is too… -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Neither the list admin or moderator getting notications on new susbriptions
On 3/23/11 6:54 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 3/23/2011 5:04 PM, Rob Tanner wrote: That I'm aware of. I subscribed myself via my personal email to avoid any confusion with me as a list admin. My request did not appear as a pending subscription request until after I clicked the link on the confirmation email. At that point an email notifying me of a pending request should have been sent to my list admin email address. No such message was sent, and that's the problem. Are other notices from Mailman being sent such as the list welcome message to a new subscriber? If not, perhaps VirginRunner is not running? Do you have enough access to the server to verify that and/or to see Mailman's logs? If you send an email to listname-owner@... does it get delivered to the admins? If not, does it bounce? I was able to access the mailman logs and the whole things turns out to have been an aliasing problem and not a mailman issue. Works perfect now. Thanks, Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Neither the list admin or moderator getting notications on new susbriptions
Hi, I forgot to mention, the option “Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones?” is set to yes, so is there another switch as well or is something broken on my site? ~ Rob On 3/23/11 3:27 PM, Rob Tanner rtan...@linfield.edu wrote: Hi, I set up a list that requires confirm and approval for new subscriptions. There are two list admins (one email address per line and no comma between them) and neither admin gets notification or the subscription request. I also tried adding them as moderators as well to know avail. Is there some other switch that needs to be checked to enable notifications or is something broken on the site? I’m running v2.1.13 on RHEL 5. Thanks. Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville Oregon ITS will never ask you for your password. Please don’t share yours with anyone! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Neither the list admin or moderator getting notications on new susbriptions
Hi, I set up a list that requires confirm and approval for new subscriptions. There are two list admins (one email address per line and no comma between them) and neither admin gets notification or the subscription request. I also tried adding them as moderators as well to know avail. Is there some other switch that needs to be checked to enable notifications or is something broken on the site? I’m running v2.1.13 on RHEL 5. Thanks. Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville Oregon ITS will never ask you for your password. Please don’t share yours with anyone! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Neither the list admin or moderator getting notications on new susbriptions
On 3/23/11 4:51 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 3/23/2011 3:42 PM, Rob Tanner wrote: I forgot to mention, the option ³Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones?² is set to yes, so is there another switch as well or is something broken on my site? On 3/23/11 3:27 PM, Rob Tanner rtan...@linfield.edu wrote: I set up a list that requires confirm and approval for new subscriptions. Since admin_immed_notify is Yes, the explanation is probably confirm and approval. With this subscribe policy, the subscription requires confirmation by the user before it is passed to the admins/moderators for approval. There will be nothing requiring moderator action until the user confirms via web or email. That I'm aware of. I subscribed myself via my personal email to avoid any confusion with me as a list admin. My request did not appear as a pending subscription request until after I clicked the link on the confirmation email. At that point an email notifying me of a pending request should have been sent to my list admin email address. No such message was sent, and that's the problem. ~ Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Emergency Moderate question
I am running v2.1.13 on Mac OS X Server 10.5.8; all works well, I have many lists running with virtual hosts for several organizations. I noticed a strange behavior recently. One list was set to Emergency Moderate all traffic. For this one list, I (as administrator) did not receive the customary notification of held e-mails until the following day, when the daily reminder message would notify me that the message was still waiting to be approved/denied. Turning off Emergency Moderate restored behavior to normal, and I now receive immediate notification of held posts. All other lists work fine with respect to moderated / held messages, none of them have 'Emergency Moderate' on. I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had any thoughts. Thanks, -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Emergency Moderate question
On Feb 1, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob wrote: I noticed a strange behavior recently. One list was set to Emergency Moderate all traffic. For this one list, I (as administrator) did not receive the customary notification of held e-mails until the following day, when the daily reminder message would notify me that the message was still waiting to be approved/denied. That's how it's designed to work. Emergency moderation is designed to be used to moderate all traffic in emergencies such as to quell flame wars. It is not intended to be used routinely to moderate all posts. Thus, when emergency moderation is on, posts which are not held for some other reason are held for emergency moderation and the owner/moderator is not notified even if admin_immed_notify is yes. Turning off Emergency Moderate restored behavior to normal, and I now receive immediate notification of held posts. Unless there is an Apple mod in the order of the pipeline, you should have received notices of posts held for other than emergency moderation anyway. The only held posts that you would not receive notice for are those specifically held for emergency moderation. All other lists work fine with respect to moderated / held messages, none of them have 'Emergency Moderate' on. I am trying to understand this behavior and was curious if anyone had any thoughts. If you want to routinely hold all posts, the way to do that is to set all member's 'mod' flags on and set new members moderated by default. Under normal circumstannces, emergency moderation should be off. Thanks, that is what I normally do, and is how I have the list set up now. So, if I do use Emergency moderate in the future, would I just check the pending requests page manually to see if posts have arrived? -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Virtual hosts question
Hi, I'm just turning virtual hosts on for the first time in a stable installation of Mailman 2.1.13 (the distribution provided with Mac OS X Server 10.6) I rewrote my mm_cfg.py file like this: # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. MTA = 'Postfix' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'acvr.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.acvr.org' VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW='ON' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost(www.lists.eavdi.org, lists.eavdi.org) add_virtualhost(www.lists.ecvdi.org, lists.ecvdi.org) DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s' ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = Yes VERP_PROBES = Yes VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes OWNERS_CAN_CHANGE_MEMBER_PASSWORDS = Yes IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/' But when I use mailmanctl to restart I get this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./mailmanctl, line 106, in module from Mailman import mm_cfg File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 50, in module add_virtualhost(www.lists.eavdi.org, lists.eavdi.org) NameError: name 'www' is not defined Thanks in advance for your help. -Rob McLear -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual hosts question
On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Chris Tandiono wrote: On 13 Jan 2011, at 11:14 , Rob wrote: But when I use mailmanctl to restart I get this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./mailmanctl, line 106, in module from Mailman import mm_cfg File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 50, in module add_virtualhost(www.lists.eavdi.org, lists.eavdi.org) NameError: name 'www' is not defined Thanks in advance for your help. -Rob McLear That is a Python error--you need to put quotes aroudn www.lists.eavdi.org; otherwise, it looks for a variable named www so it can access the property lists. Same thing with lists.eavdi.org. Chris Thanks, that worked for me. I don't seem to have virtual hosts woking properly yet, but I need to do some more RTFM'ing before I bother the list again. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] quote-trimming handler
On Jul 4, 2010,
Actually, that FAQ link used to go to the specific article which is now
at http://wiki.list.org/x/l4A9 before the FAQ was moved.
That FAQ discusses how to install custom handlers to do these kinds of
things.
Thank you, I'll see if I can work up an understanding of it.
procmail recipes for enabling rejection :
http://www.animalgenome.org/SmartList/contrib/reject_garbage.txt
the specific recipe for rejecting a message with overquoting was this one
below. The weighting of quoted versus non-quoted lines, represented by the
numbers 20 and -10, was arrived at by trial and error, and as I recall, was
fairly lenient toward quoting so as not to make too many subscribers complain.
Looks like I was pedantic enough in text of the rejection message. Also, today
the quoting is done with some form of rich text at times, is it not?
-cut here
# mine (rob a colorist.org , 1998)
:0 hBHw
* 20^1 ^
* -10^1 ^[^]
{
:0c
| formail -i Subject: ***quote REJECT engaged| $SENDMAIL -oi
$maintainer
:0
| quotereject -attach
}
case $function in
-attach)
($formail -iFrom: $listreq -rtAX-Loop: $listaddr $tmprequest ;\
$echo Your mail to the mailinglist has been intercepted and
$echo is being returned to you because it it appears to the list server
$echo to contain an excessive amount of quoted material.
$echo Brief quoting is fine, but please quote only for context.
$echo Do not quote other messages in their entirety, or quote
$echo message headers or signature files.
$echo
$echo ...excessive quoting is a waste of resources.
$echo If you feel that you've edited your message adequately but
$echo it was still returned to you, you can appeal to the administator,
$echo rob a colorist.org
$echo
$echo [message follows]
$echo ; cat $tmprequest)\
| $SENDMAIL $sendmailOPT $sender
shift ;;
esac
-cut here-
Rob
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Re: [Mailman-Users] quote-trimming handler
On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: This time, it's really attached (renamed Quoting.py.txt to get through content filtering) This will be a lot of fun to look at and implement. Holding the message is a much better option than a rejection. And now I know how to sneak suitable attachments through Mailman. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] quote-trimming handler
I would be very interested in hearing of various mechanisms for trimming over-quoting, including a hold on replies that match some kind of regexp. I know about M. Sapiro's posting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-April/061227.html which refers me (in the bottom link) to the FAQ _in toto_, but if there's a more pointed location or recent thread, I'd like to know. Before I started running Mailman a decade or two ago, I used SmartList, for which I wrote and contributed a quote-aware filter. I would be interested in contributing this work to Mailman if it hasn't already been done, or superseded by other concerns. thank you in advance. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning
Good morning, While dealing with a flood of returned mails generated by the monthly password reminders sent out today, I noticed that my site admin password no longer functions correctly. Mailman accepts the password, and I can make changes to records, but if I attempt, for instance, to view a user record and choose the 'List my other subscriptions' button, I get the The list administrator may not view the other subscriptions for this user. error. I know this worked previously, but I don't know what changed. So far I have changed the site password using mmsitepass, run check_perms -f until there are no permissions errors, and restarted mailman, none of which changed the behavior. This is Mailman 2.1.13 running on Mac OS X server 10.5.8 Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning
On Apr 1, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob wrote: While dealing with a flood of returned mails generated by the monthly password reminders sent out today, I noticed that my site admin password no longer functions correctly. Mailman accepts the password, and I can make changes to records, but if I attempt, for instance, to view a user record and choose the 'List my other subscriptions' button, I get the The list administrator may not view the other subscriptions for this user. error. I know this worked previously, but I don't know what changed. So far I have changed the site password using mmsitepass, run check_perms -f until there are no permissions errors, and restarted mailman, none of which changed the behavior. This is Mailman 2.1.13 running on Mac OS X server 10.5.8 If you just upgraded Mailman, this was changed in 2.1.7. If that is not the explaination, it is probably that you don't have ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Be sure and read the documentation in Defaults.py before changing this. Also, if you have upgraded, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/aICB. And finally, the bounced reminder should list all the user's subscriptions. Thanks. I have not recently upgraded or changed Mailman, though there was a recent Apple security update, and I'm not sure if it could have included a Mailman upgrade within it. The apparently huge number of expired addresses which bounced to the -owner address today suggests (based on my understanding of the wiki article you referenced) that there must have been an upgrade included. I added ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = Yes to mm_cfg.py and restarted mailman, but the behavior persists, or else I am not understanding the new behavior of the site admin password. Essentially I use the site admin password to quickly traverse multiple list config options without having to enter the list password for each list, delete users from multiple lists, or change their passwords for them. And, yes, the bounced reminder did list all of the user's subscriptions. Thanks for your help. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning
Mark, Thanks, I get Mailman posts as a digest so I hadn't yet received the other reply. I tried quitting the browser and restarting several times, and also deleted cookies manually, but the problem persists. I will do some more digging and let you know what I come up with. Thanks again. -Rob McLear On Apr 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob wrote: Thanks. I have not recently upgraded or changed Mailman, though there was a recent Apple security update, and I'm not sure if it could have included a Mailman upgrade within it. The apparently huge number of expired addresses which bounced to the -owner address today suggests (based on my understanding of the wiki article you referenced) that there must have been an upgrade included. According to the reply at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-April/069199.html, there was. I added ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = Yes to mm_cfg.py and restarted mailman, but the behavior persists, or else I am not understanding the new behavior of the site admin password. Essentially I use the site admin password to quickly traverse multiple list config options without having to enter the list password for each list, delete users from multiple lists, or change their passwords for them. Did you stop and restart your browser or clear the relevant cookies from the browser? (an admin logout should suffice). If ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = No (the default), when you authenticate with the site password, you get a cookie that says you are authenticated as the list admin, not as the site admin. Thus, you can't do global actions on the user options page and you can't go to another list's admin pages without logging in there. If ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES = Yes and you are authenticated as the site admin and you still can't list a users other subscriptions, I think this must be an Apple specific feature/bug. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning
On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob wrote: I tried quitting the browser and restarting several times, and also deleted cookies manually, but the problem persists. I will do some more digging and let you know what I come up with. Key question #1 is are the cookies named 'listname-admin' or 'site'? -- They are named listname+admin Is there any way to determine whether my mailman installation is reading the lines from my mm_cfg.py correctly? -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning
They are named listname+admin Is there any way to determine whether my mailman installation is reading the lines from my mm_cfg.py correctly? Here's one way. [m...@sbh16 ~]$ /path/to/bin/withlist -i No list name supplied. Python 2.4.3 (#1, Sep 3 2009, 15:37:12) [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. (InteractiveConsole) from Mailman import mm_cfg mm_cfg.ALLOW_SITE_ADMIN_COOKIES False [m...@sbh16 ~]$ You type the command with the correct path to Mailman's bin/withlist. Then you type the two lines after the '' prompts. In your case, the response should be True or 1. At the third prompt, type control-D. Another clue is whether the timestamp on mm_cfg.pyc is more recent than that on mm_cfg.py, although this isn't always definitive due to possible permission issues. From the withlist command I got a False response. I checked the timestamps as you suggested and found that mm_cfg.pyc had a timestamp from yesterday, likely when I ran the update. However, mm_cfg.py was last changed in 2008, which I know is incorrect since I edited it today. So, locate mm_cfg.py and sure enough there are two separate mailman folders; /usr/share/mailman and /usr/local/mailman . Yes indeed, I had edited the wrong file. Don't know where the duplicate came from, I think this server was upgraded from OS X Server 10.3, perhaps there was an old installation. Long story short, edited the correct copy of mm_cfg.py and restarted, all works well again. Thanks so much for your help. -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Waiting moderator requests not found
Hi, I just upgraded from version 2.1.9 to 2.1.13 to hopefully solve a couple of problems, and the upgrade solved all but one. The moderator of one of the lists gets email that tells him there are two requests pending, but when he clicks on the link to go to the administrative database the message is ³There are no requests pending². Since this issue was also in 2.1.9, I¹m assuming it¹s not a software bug but rather a configuration error of some kind, but I have no idea what that might be. Can anyone offer me ome useful advice? Thanks, Rob Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville Oregon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions regarding Mailman FW: Irexintl Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 18:55, Jason Vuong Do j...@irex.org wrote: Hello there! I will be using mailman to send out weekly digests to our staff globally. Is there a way to reconfigure the format to make it look more readable (Please see example below)? Also, can users send emails with attachments to be included in the digest? I'm assuming no, but please let me know if there is a loop hole around this. I'd be surprised if the FAQ doesn't cover it, but try using the MIME digests instead of the plain text one. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filtering
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 15:23, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Geoff Shang writes: It is being done, although not via the MX for the reasons Larry Stone gives. What you're looking for is call SPF or DKIM (these are actually two different protocols, and I think with the standardization of DKIM, SPF is probably dead). That would be a surprise to the SPF folks, and the steady progression of folks who're implementing it ;) SPF and DKIM solve 2 different parts of the problem of forged emails. Neither provides complete coverage, together they work well. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 16:55, King, Leslie ltk...@emory.edu wrote: Can your program work on a Mac? Stick the word MacOS into the list search page: Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ and you'll find many hits - the first (for me) of which includes a link to installing it. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] WBAR listserv
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 08:58, Anna Kats comradek...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm writing on behalf of WBAR Barnard College Radio. We use your service ( lists.wbar.org), You don't - you use the services of whoever hosts your list. This list is about the software (GNU Mailman) that underpins that service. but have been having some problems. Our former webmaster left the group without giving us any information or passwords, but managed to make me an admin on our listserv prior to this. However, he didn't give me any passwords and my attempts to contact him has been met with no response; therefore, can you help me retrieve or reset the password to our listserv? Contact the administrator of your service (possibly Dreamhost). -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 13:36, Lark Burger parrotm...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've done something stupid, and I don't know how to get out of it. I'm a moderator for the Knittingbeyondthehebrides group and I've accidentally banned a member. I was half-awake and accidentally clicked on the permanent ban button instead of approving her. Now I can't figure out how to get around that and approve the poor woman. Can you help? Is it possible to remove the ban from your end so that I may approve the membership? Note that this list is for support and assistance with GNU Mailman in general, not specific installations. Nobody here will be able to do anything to your list for you. I'm sure in due course however somebody will be along who knows about Mailman to help you solve the problem though. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: listserv account vanished
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 21:01, Cichon, Joan L *HS jl...@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu wrote: Hello, My ListServ seems to have gone missing. I keep emailing you to get assistance (see below) and can't seem to get an answer. Please respond. Cough that's GNU Mailman, not the trademarked ListServ as I'm sure Mark will point out in a moment ;) Also, this isn't mail...@listserv.bnsi.net but the mailing list for users of Mailman. Unless the administrators of that happen to lurk here nobody can help you with that specific problem. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] can not log into my admin account
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:26, John Ditzel jsdit...@msn.com wrote: I CAN NOT LOG INTO MY ADMIN ACCOUNT. MY WEB SITE IS VOODOO-SOUND.COM, I MAY HAVE USED MY jsdit...@msn.commailto:jsdit...@msn.com EMAIL ADDRESS OR cont...@voodoo-sound.commailto:cont...@voodoo-sound.com I DO KNOW MY PASSWORD IS voodoo CAN YOU EMAIL MY DETAILS TO THIS EMAIL. ALSO I STILL LOST ABOUT HOW THIS LIST EVEN WORKS AND HOW TO MAKE A LIST AND SO ON. I'M NEW AT THIS. CAN YOU DIRECT ME WHERE TO GET A FULL SET OF DIRECTIONS ON THIS SERVICE, PLEASE. THANK YOU, JOHN IF YOU NEED TO KNOW I USE SUPERGREEN HOSTING. And, once you've found that CAPS lock key again, go and change your password everywhere you use it - posting it for the world to see probably isn't the best thing to do. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] bin/arch : ctime
I rebuilt, not long ago, the archives of a particular mailinglist, and the html files' atime/ctime/mtime were all changed to the time of the rebuild. The search facilities I'm using, on the same machine- glimpseindex and swish-e - by default use the ctime or mtime to return results, which isn't very convenient when searching by Date:. Has anybody ever written a script that would rebuild the html message archives that would also modify the file ctime/mtime back to the date of the message, as retrieved from the list's mbox file? thanks in advance. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/arch : ctime
On Oct 8, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: will change atime and mtime for all the nn.html files subordinate to the BASE directory to the time parsed from the line thank you very much, just what was needed. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/arch : ctime
On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: This script --- [...] try: ptime = time.strptime(mo.group(1), '%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Z %Y') except ValueError: next [...] Ooops. That should be except ValueError: continue funny thing is, it worked, on a very minimal directory that I just ran a test on: before running script: ro...@soho89-16-222-12 0:08 pts/1 /var/www/html/mailman/archives/ private/mfrs/2009-September# stat 00.html File: `00.html' Size: 3283Blocks: 16 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: fd03h/64771dInode: 26613721Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: (0/root) Gid: ( 41/ mailman) Access: 2009-10-09 00:00:59.0 +0100 Modify: 2009-10-08 20:29:41.0 +0100 Change: 2009-10-08 20:29:41.0 +0100 and after running: ro...@soho89-16-222-12 0:10 pts/1 /var/www/html/mailman/archives/ private/mfrs/2009-September# stat 00.html File: `00.html' Size: 3283Blocks: 16 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: fd03h/64771dInode: 26613721Links: 1 Access: (0664/-rw-rw-r--) Uid: (0/root) Gid: ( 41/ mailman) Access: 2009-09-02 00:47:38.0 +0100 Modify: 2009-09-02 00:47:38.0 +0100 Change: 2009-10-09 00:10:29.0 +0100 and the one invocation also took care of another message.html file. But I'll make the change and test it again, and look at the more complete version as well, before I start using it on the 60k message files I need it to work on. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/arch : ctime
On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: files are all well formed, but is there in order to keep looking in case it does. Python doesn't care that the name 'next' is undefined until it actually tries to execute it. There's a vortex with python in the center, me on the fringe. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Maiing list
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 20:49, Lindsay DeVries lind...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm TA-ing a course, and need to make a mailing list. I've done it before, but can't seem to find where to apply for one again. Thanks! This is a mailing list about the software mailman, which helps you run your own mailing lists. This isn't a list about finding list servers accessible to all ;) That said, the question is common enough that I'm sure you'll find pointers in the list archive. Indeed here's a sample for you: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg54661.html -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] ECC-T Listserv
in the spirit of trying to help I'll ask the usual questions privately, and refer Mr. Orozco back to the group if needed. On Sep 30, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Francisco Orozco wrote: Hello, I was made in-charge of our listserv, ec...@u.washington.edu. The person who created it years ago is no longer here and we cannot contact them. Is there a way for me to get access to it and reset list admins and such? -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] ECC-T Listserv
On Sep 30, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Francisco Orozco wrote: Hello, I was made in-charge of our listserv, ec...@u.washington.edu. The person who created it years ago is no longer here and we cannot contact them. Is there a way for me to get access to it and reset list admins and such? hi again Francisco, I see that u.washington.edu does resolve for email. Now, I did a simple test to see if www.washington.edu is advertising any mailman lists. Below is what I found at http://www.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo. That line File does not exist: /www/world/mailman may mean that there was a mailman installation pointing to that directory in the past. So still the questions are, what kind of access do you have to the machine- you at least need to find the System Adminstrator and ask her/him to verify the version of Mailman, and give you access to its web interface. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org URL Not Found http://www.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo was not found or is no longer on this server. Please check the URL (misspellings, capitalization, etc.) and try again, or if you came to this page via a link, you might try using your browser's Reload (or Refresh) button on that page in case the link has changed. If you are still getting this error after a reload, please notify the maintainer of that page so they know of the invalid link. URL: http://www.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo Reason: File does not exist: /www/world/mailman. Remote: (189.50.129.106) Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_8; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.3 Safari/531.9 Host: www12.cac.washington.edu:22280 Time: 02-Oct-2009 12:57:57PM Local: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:57:57 GMT -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] mmfold.py with MM 2.1.12
After having no luck finding Skip Montanaro's revised (as of late 2008) mmfold.py script on his website (appears to be unreachable at http://www.webfast.com/~skip/python/mmfold.py) I did find a version at http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/python/ mmfold.py . but it returns the following error with Mailman 2.1.12: r...@soho89-16-227-18 20:03 pts/1 /var/www/mailman/bin# ./mmfold.py http://path.to.mailman.list.admin Traceback (most recent call last): File ./mmfold.py, line 181, in ? sys.exit(main()) File ./mmfold.py, line 64, in main lst = x.path.split(/)[-1] My goal in using it is to have more command-line options in admin of a mailman list. Does anyone have the most recent version, or perhaps a clue why the version I have, as retrieved at http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/python/mmfold.py fails? thanks in advance. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] digests without 'message #n...
On Sep 24, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Plain format digests have messages inline separated by the RFC 1153 separator line (30 hyphens) followed by selected headers and the scrubbed message body. MIME format digests have each message as a separate MIME message/ rfc822 part with partial headers and the MIME message body. The Message: n line is aadded by digest processing as a message header. Which headers appear in plain and MIME format digests is controled by the settings MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS and PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS, both of which include Message: by default. However, what you actually see in the MIME format digest depends almost entirely on the MUA used to view it. thank you for the detailed reply. on further investigation, it appears Apple's Mail.app is behaving unexpectedly with MIME format digests, when compared to mail(1), mutt(1), and the web-based Squirrelmail. Mail.app doesn't present separators in any predictable fashion, and includes huge amounts of white space, with no individually-viewable message option, as far as I can tell. Incidentally Squirrelmail, my last-resort reader, presents the messages quite nicely as a formatted list of attachments. I have a feeling mutt(1) could do the same thing with a bit of tweaking. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] digests without 'message #n...
one of my mailing lists is sending out digests without the usual in-line separator of Message 1... Message 2... between the messages, after the Table of Contents. It is set to send MIME-type digests. for control purposes I have the Mailman default mailing list set to the same Digest options, and yet it sends digests out with the separator Message #n etc. Mailman version is 2.1.12 Thank you in advice for any help. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] command line administration.
I'm preparing for a time soon when I'll have to administer a large
active mailman list via a very limited connection (don't ask, but
thank goodness for PuTTy and internet over cel networks deep in
Brasil). I've read the FAQ 3.61 and will examine Skip Montanaro's
mmfold.py script; in the meantime I'm also re-familiarizing myself
with all the scripts in {mailman}/bin.Also am testing the mailman
GUI with command line browsers w3m, lynx, and links.
I'd be interested in hearing of experiences doing this (am running
2.1.12).
The archives on one list go back to 1994 (SmartList!) and are
extensive. Education of subscribers as to how to keep quoting to a
minimum (I contributed a module way back when to SmartList that would
kick back overquoting), top-posting, etc., have mostly been in vain -
including kicking back the postings and asking for trimming- so for
some years now I have moderation enabled, and a few times a day I
review the posts and trim them myself. It's radical but it works.
Helps as well with the search indexing for the list done every night
(used to use htdig; now using webglimpse; might switch to swish-e).
In order to edit the postings I have this in mm_cfg.py:
# this is to be able to edit held messages to kill advertising
# remember to insert blurb that msg was edited
# messages will now be held as .txt (less efficient)
HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No
..and I run a command that aliases to vim path_to_held_messages/
*.txt
thanks to the maintainers and creators of Mailman.
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[Mailman-Users] Users not receiving msgs (Was: Re:user support)
On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Florence Hutner wrote: several list members have written to me to say that they're not receiving copies of my email blasts. Three of those four members happen to have aol accounts, but the fourth does not. How can I figure out what's preventing them from receiving my listserv emails? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Which mailman version are you running? Do you have access to the server on which it runs, or access to the administrator of that server, who can check the logs of the Mail Transport Agent (usually sendmail, postfix, or exim) to see exactly what happened to the messages when delivery was attempted? regards Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman : too fast when small ressources, how to make it slower
On Sep 24, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The only control is SMTP_MAX_RCPTS which sets the maximum number of recipients in one transaction or the VERP options which will result in one recipient per transaction, but there is no control over how fast Mailman generates messages to the MTA unless you build a delay into the code. of course the MTA itself has some control over that (I speak of exim, but there should be something similar in others) - remote_max_parallel comes to mind. Rob -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Python compatibility - was: command line administration.
On Sep 24, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: out that the Python 2.6.x incompatibility I mention in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-September/067223.html also affects holding messages when HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES = No. thanks for mentioning this, I'm still running python 2.5.1 and will be sure to apply the patch if I go to 2.5.1. -- Rob Lingelbach r...@colorist.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Word Wrap
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 18:39, Adrean Clarkc...@clercscar.com wrote: Word wrap was forced. The text I pasted was not supposed to have line breaks, it was supposed to fit the width of the mail program. Plain text usually runs the width of the screen it's on -- that's what I want, not forced line ends. Hope I'm making sense. For some definition of usually - yes ;) Traditionally plain text wraps at under 80 characters (72-78 being a fairly common maximum) and many mail clients will support that behaviour. What you describe is a relatively recent change in the way plain text emails are displayed. I checked the archives and the line breaks were there. So it must be my mail program that's causing the problem? I tried sending the same message from Google mail and my SquirrelMail program -- both had the hard wrap. Are you doing a copy-and-paste? That'll preserve existing line wraps and you'll get the behaviour you describe. If you want it to flow then you have to ensure that you enter it with line breaks only where you want them. Note that even if you do that, the final handling is up to the mail client. Some will hard wrap the lines anyway and some will flow hard-wrapped lines. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Word Wrap
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 18:25, Adrean Clarkc...@clercscar.com wrote: I'm still having trouble with word wrap. I send out messages in plain text, and I don't have the message editor enabled. I've pasted a sample message below. Also notice in the first sentence of the article a sign was added. It's not in the original -- where did that come from? Thanks for all your help. ---SNIP--- From Little Girls Point, we headed west on U.S. Highway 2 and entered That's an artifact of the mail system in use. In the very old days that was used to avoid mail systems thinking it was another From: header. Some unix mail systems still escape it this way, I'm guessing yours is one. I'm sure you'll find it documented in one of the many RFCs, somewhere. As for wrapping, as you copy-and-pasted it there's no way for anybody to say anything meaningful ;) If you were to attach a sent message then people may be able to say more. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Mach task special port 9
I would also appreciate your launchd.plists! It's a task I've been putting off doing myself... Thanks! -Rob McLear On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Harrison wrote: Steve, I was hoping to be polite and avoid the why is Mailman inflicting this antiquated utility on me? implication. ;) You have explained why I've no other such errors - there are no other crons on any of my servers. All my customizations are done via launchd. I'd be very grateful if you'd like to share your launchd.plist efforts. Replacing Mailman's crons went on my list as soon as I understood what was happening. It'd be a pleasure to eliminate the crons, since they strike me as inelegant by comparison. Thanks, Bryan To which I reply: This is because Apple has deprecated cron, and really wants you to use launchd instead. You'll see one of those messages for *everything* that cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones because they run so often. I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various Mailman cron jobs; if you want them, let me know. -- Steve Burlingmailto:s...@umich.edu University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pennguin%40mac.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 21:11, Claire L Laing claire.la...@topalbertadoctors.org wrote: Hi, Our program has been using your program for a couple of years now. Because we didn't have our own website, we were able to use our local university's site to set up the groups. We recently got our own website through Host Papa, and decided to create our own mailing list instead. It began three weeks ago, and although we didn't have problems before, we are having most of the email bounce back. Is there someone who can help us with this? Probably many people, but as you've posted nothing technical about the problem, nobody right now ;) Can you post a sample bounce message. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] my mailman has been hacked !!
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 19:23, Khalil Abbas khillo...@hotmail.com wrote: HELP!! one of my lists has been hacked.. all members are moderated, except my own email address (m...@email.com) which I use to post to the list .. someone sent from my address to the list and all my subscribers has recieved a damn virus as an attachment!! but the 'From' name is not me, which means that the sender didn't use my email to send but used a kind of open-relayed server or something .. please help what should I do ??? Look at the headers and work out what really happened. Forging email addresses is trivial. It is the work of a few seconds to send an email with somebody else's email address. You can mitigate somewhat by using SPF and DKIM, but it does require that everybody checks your SPF and DKIM records - not everybody does. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] mails bounce when sent to join address
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 17:09, punit_j puni...@rediffmail.com wrote: Hi ,I am integrating mailman with postfix. I have created new transport by name mailman :-mailmannbsp;nbsp; unixnbsp; -nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; nnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; If you can't persuade your webmail interface to send only in plain text then I suspect you'll get little help from the list. Your messages are impossible to understand, as Mark has already said. -- Please keep list traffic on the list. Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce messages to list moderator?
So, owner = administrator(s) moderators? Can bounces be sent only to the administrator? My list moderators don't need to get bounce notices. Thanks, -Rob On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob wrote: For an unknown reason, bounce messages are being sent to both the administrator and moderator e-mail addresses. This is not typical behavior for any of our other lists. I've attached headers from a recent bounce below. Any advice on why this is happening is much appreciated. The message is the notification to the owners/moderators of a member who's delivery is disabled by bounce. This notice is sent becaues bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is set to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Bounce messages to list moderator?
We have an announce-only list (all members are moderated, moderated postings are rejected). There is a single list moderator and a single list administrator. For an unknown reason, bounce messages are being sent to both the administrator and moderator e-mail addresses. This is not typical behavior for any of our other lists. I've attached headers from a recent bounce below. Any advice on why this is happening is much appreciated. -Rob Return-Path: mailman-boun...@acvr.org Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by acvr.org (Cyrus v2.3.8-OS X Server 10.5:9C31) with LMTPA; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:31 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ED890212A for treasu...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at acvr.org Received: from acvr.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xserve.petrad.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3oNS6-ofbrCr for treasu...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B38902093 for treasu...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: announcements-ow...@acvr.org Delivered-To: announcements-ow...@acvr.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422F6902049 for announcements-ow...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at acvr.org Received: from acvr.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xserve.petrad.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2+levVjTjgSk for announcements-ow...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97A4901EC2 for announcements-ow...@acvr.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bounce action notification From: mail...@acvr.org To: announcements-ow...@acvr.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary1347886839== Message-ID: mailman.17.1235491751.325.announceme...@acvr.org Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:09:11 -0500 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: announceme...@acvr.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: ACVR Announcements \(moderated\) announcements.acvr.org X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: mailman-boun...@acvr.org Errors-To: mailman-boun...@acvr.org --===1347886839== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: Announcements Member: axon...@rad.usuhs.mil Action: Subscription disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at mail...@acvr.org. --===1347886839== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: X-Original-To: announcements-boun...@acvr.org Delivered-To: announcements-boun...@acvr.org Received: by acvr.org (Postfix) id 11000901DF6; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:06:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:06:16 -0500 (EST) From: mailer-dae...@acvr.org (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: announcements-boun...@acvr.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=DC6F7901D92.1235491576/acvr.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20090224160616.11000901...@acvr.org This is a MIME-encapsulated message. --DC6F7901D92.1235491576/acvr.org Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the mail system at host acvr.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system axon...@rad.usuhs.mil: host rad.usuhs.edu[151.200.170.182] said: 554 5.7.1 axon...@rad.usuhs.mil: Relay access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command) --DC6F7901D92.1235491576/acvr.org Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; acvr.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: DC6F7901D92 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; announcements-boun...@acvr.org Arrival-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:54:09 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; axon...@rad.usuhs.mil Original-Recipient: rfc822;axon...@rad.usuhs.mil Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; rad.usuhs.edu Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 axon...@rad.usuhs.mil: Relay access denied -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users
[Mailman-Users] Content filtering
Is there any way of having mailman scan message content (not headers) and holding a message for review if there is a match in the body of the message? We have multiple lists, some of which are specifically set up to discuss a particular subject, and users frequently post to the wrong list, leading to much confusion and occasional flame-wars. I would love to be able to hold those messages and contact the authors directly or resend it to the correct list. Thanks, -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminders not functioning
Hi, Using v.2.1.9 on Mac OS X Server v10.5.5 Everything else is working nicely, but I just realized that our monthly password reminders are not being sent. I can manually trigger a password reminder using the options page 'Remind' button, and that goes through immediately. I have checked all of the mailman logs and don't see anything suspicious. Any clues on where I would start looking for the root of this problem? Thanks in advance, -Rob McLear -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] generic_nonmember_action and header_filter_rules
Is mm_cfg.py going to be replaced each time Mailman is upgraded, or
would these changes persist across upgrades?
On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Russell Clemings wrote:
I have generic_nonmember_action set to reject. I also have
header_filter_rules set to hold if an incoming message has
X-Spam-Flag: YES in its headers.
My current problem is the second test overrides the first -- i.e., if
a non-member tries to post a message flagged as spam, it is held
rather than rejected. As you might imagine, this happens rather
often.
Is there a way to change the order of operations on these filters?
I'd
like to have posts from non-members rejected every time, whether they
match the spam filter or not.
This is cPanel's hack of Mailman (version 2.1.11.cp2), not the real
mccoy, fwiw.
Do you have access to mm_cfg.py? That's what's required to change
this.
IncomingRunner passes the message througe a pipeline of handler
modules. The first one that says hold|reject|discard this message
determins what is done. The default pipeline is
GLOBAL_PIPELINE = [
# These are the modules that do tasks common to all delivery paths.
'SpamDetect',
'Approve',
'Replybot',
'Moderate',
'Hold',
'MimeDel',
'Scrubber',
'Emergency',
'Tagger',
'CalcRecips',
'AvoidDuplicates',
'Cleanse',
'CleanseDKIM',
'CookHeaders',
# And now we send the message to the digest mbox file, and to the
arch and
# news queues. Runners will provide further processing of the
message,
# specific to those delivery paths.
'ToDigest',
'ToArchive',
'ToUsenet',
# Now we'll do a few extra things specific to the member delivery
# (outgoing) path, finally leaving the message in the outgoing
queue.
'AfterDelivery',
'Acknowledge',
'ToOutgoing',
]
SpamDetect does header_filter_rules; Moderate does member moderation
and non-member actions, and Hold does several miscellaneous holds.
To do what you want, you need to reorder the pipeline so that
SpamDetect comes after Moderate.
You could do this by putting the following in mm_cfg.py
GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('SpamDetect')
GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'SpamDetect')
which would remove SpamDetect from the pipeline and then insert it
between Moderate and Hold.
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[Mailman-Users] Virtual Hosts Listinfo Overview problem
Running 2.1.9 under Mac OS X 10.5.4, Apache 2.2.
I recently set up virtual hosts using the following settings in
mm_cfg.py:
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'acvr.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.acvr.org'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS=('www.acvr.org','xserve.petrad.com')
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW='OFF'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
Lists work fine, and I can access all of the individual list
configuration pages. But if I try to access https://www.acvr.org/mailman/listinfo
then I get the following error:
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited,
but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.
And the following information pops up in my Mailman error log...
admin(18986): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -]
admin(18986): [- Traceback --]
admin(18986): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in
run_main
admin(18986): main()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py,
line 42, in main
admin(18986): listinfo_overview()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py,
line 117, in listinfo_overview
admin(18986): siteowner = Utils.get_site_email()
admin(18986): File /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 701,
in get_site_email
admin(18986): hostname = mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.get(get_domain(),
get_domain())
admin(18986): AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'get'
admin(18986): [- Python Information -]
admin(18986): sys.version = 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 15 2008,
22:57:26)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)]
admin(18986): sys.executable = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python
admin(18986): sys.prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.exec_prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.path= /System/Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.5
admin(18986): sys.platform= darwin
admin(18986): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(18986): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_ssl/
2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.7l mod_scgi_pubsub/1.11-pubsub mod_jk/1.2.23 PHP/
5.2.4 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8
admin(18986): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.8 (Unix) DAV/2
mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.7l mod_scgi_pubsub/1.11-pubsub mod_jk/1.2.23
PHP/5.2.4 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at xserve.petrad.com Port
443/address
admin(18986):
admin(18986): REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(18986): HTTP_FROM: googlebot(at)googlebot.com
admin(18986): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(18986): QUERY_STRING:
admin(18986): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/
2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)
admin(18986): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-alive
admin(18986): SERVER_NAME: xserve.petrad.com
admin(18986): REMOTE_ADDR: 66.249.71.153
admin(18986): SERVER_PORT: 443
admin(18986): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.1.4
admin(18986): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /Library/WebServer/Documents/ACVR
admin(18986): PYTHONPATH: /usr/share/mailman
admin(18986): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/share/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
admin(18986): SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(18986): SCRIPT_URI: https://xserve.petrad.com/mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTP_HOST: xserve.petrad.com
admin(18986): SCRIPT_URL: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTPS: on
admin(18986): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo
admin(18986): HTTP_ACCEPT: */*
admin(18986): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(18986): REMOTE_PORT: 42297
admin(18986): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate
I'm sure I've missed something in setting up the virtual hosts, but
I'm not sure what.
Thanks in advance.
-Rob
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
Yes that did it! I had all the folders set correctly *except* for the /private folder itself. Changing that from root to www-data did it for me. Thanks! Rob Mark Sapiro wrote, On 6/9/2008 7:28 AM: Rob Brandt wrote: In any case, I changed it to: Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Order allow,deny Allow from all Options Indexes FollowSymLinks /Directory restarted apache and it's still Forbidden. And Bob Eager wrote (with a 'digest' subject): Who owns the folders? They (and contents) need to be readable by the user under which the web server runs. I was bitten by this last week... Good point. In particular, the archives/private/ directory itself must either be world searchable or owned by the web server user. A possible mistake is to see the warning about o+x from check_perms and set o-x without changing ownership per the installation manual. See the warning box at http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node9.html. And if that isn't the solution, please report what's in the apache error_log for the forbidden access. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
I have a new installation I'm testing. I'm on a fresh install of ubuntu, mailman compiled from scratch. Mostly working now, but the mailing list public archives are show as forbidden in my browser. The data is actually there in the folders, stored in private and symlinked to public. I've run permissions check and everything is OK (it says). What's my trouble? When I browse to the pipermail folder it doesn't even list the public private folders. Public (at least) is set to read by all. Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
Yes, in apache2.conf, I have: Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks /Directory I tried it without the trailing slash on the path too. Rob Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/8/08, Rob Brandt wrote: Mostly working now, but the mailing list public archives are show as forbidden in my browser. The data is actually there in the folders, stored in private and symlinked to public. I've run permissions check and everything is OK (it says). What's my trouble? Is your web server configured to follow symlinks? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
Not intentionally, and I just combed through the conf files and see no reference. In any case, I changed it to: Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Order allow,deny Allow from all Options Indexes FollowSymLinks /Directory restarted apache and it's still Forbidden. Rob Mark Sapiro wrote: Rob Brandt wrote: Yes, in apache2.conf, I have: Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks /Directory Do you implicitly not allow your access? You might need Order allow,deny Allow from all inside the Directory section if you have a Deny on a superordinate directory. What's in apache's error_log? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
Hey, maybe so. I wasn't aware of it, but the packages libselinux1 2.0.55-0ubuntu4 and libsepol1 2.0.20-0ubuntu3 are installed. I'll look in to it. Rob Steven Stern wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/08/2008 05:30 PM, Rob Brandt wrote: | I have a new installation I'm testing. I'm on a fresh install of | ubuntu, mailman compiled from scratch. | | Mostly working now, but the mailing list public archives are show as | forbidden in my browser. The data is actually there in the folders, | stored in private and symlinked to public. I've run permissions check | and everything is OK (it says). What's my trouble? When I browse to | the pipermail folder it doesn't even list the public private folders. | Public (at least) is set to read by all. | | Rob Is Ubuntu using SELinux? If so, you'll probably need to use audit2allow to create aplicy to allow it to read the archives. - -- ~ Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhMqJQACgkQeERILVgMyvAM6ACdEE2I7W3EBpRy1zedYjo2C2bc jncAnRxdBoQNLyu06JnE7ZyuP2Dqpwgm =DDuT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives Forbidden
although selinux itself isn't installed... Rob Brandt wrote: Hey, maybe so. I wasn't aware of it, but the packages libselinux1 2.0.55-0ubuntu4 and libsepol1 2.0.20-0ubuntu3 are installed. I'll look in to it. Rob Steven Stern wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/08/2008 05:30 PM, Rob Brandt wrote: | I have a new installation I'm testing. I'm on a fresh install of | ubuntu, mailman compiled from scratch. | | Mostly working now, but the mailing list public archives are show as | forbidden in my browser. The data is actually there in the folders, | stored in private and symlinked to public. I've run permissions check | and everything is OK (it says). What's my trouble? When I browse to | the pipermail folder it doesn't even list the public private folders. | Public (at least) is set to read by all. | | Rob Is Ubuntu using SELinux? If so, you'll probably need to use audit2allow to create aplicy to allow it to read the archives. - -- ~ Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhMqJQACgkQeERILVgMyvAM6ACdEE2I7W3EBpRy1zedYjo2C2bc jncAnRxdBoQNLyu06JnE7ZyuP2Dqpwgm =DDuT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Email html editing
Hi Folks I create an email newsletter. What I need to do is create an HTML version and a text version, that while having the same basic content are organized to present the information in an intelligible form and doesn't radically mess with final format. Most email programs I have looked at don't have the option of separately editing the text and/or create lousy html Thanks Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Program location
Hi Folks I am new to mailman, climbing a very steep hill. I have a virtual private apache server, which can handle several domains. does mailman have to reside on the root or can it reside on one of the domains. i would prefer it to run from one of the domains so the email addresses have some relevance to the domain. Thanks Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Getting python errors with bin/arch
Hi, I am trying to rebuild archives -- actually porting archives over from another machine and then doing a rebuild, but the problem below shows up inb all the archives. I run the command bin/arch small_centers and get the following error: #0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] figuring article archives 2008-February Pickling archive state into /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/small_centers/pipermail.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/arch, line 200, in module main() File bin/arch, line 188, in main archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 580, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 624, in add_article author = fixAuthor(article.decoded['author']) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 62, in fixAuthor while i0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xb5 in position 26: ordinal not in range(128) This actually looks like a problem in a specific email message in the archive. How do I identify the mesand how do I fix it? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville OR -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Porting from a 2.1.5 installation to 2.1.7
Hi, I am retiring a server running Mailman 2.1.5 and need to port everything to a server running 2.1.7 (Fedora Core distribution). Can I take the lists directory and simply copy it from one server to another (i.e., is the format of the various files the same)? Is there anything else that needs to be copied? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville OR -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Porting from a 2.1.5 installation to 2.1.7
That was very very helpful. Thanks! -- Rob Mark Sapiro said the following on 02/05/2008 01:22 PM: Rob Tanner wrote: I am retiring a server running Mailman 2.1.5 and need to port everything to a server running 2.1.7 (Fedora Core distribution). Can I take the lists directory and simply copy it from one server to another (i.e., is the format of the various files the same)? Is there anything else that needs to be copied? There are many threads on this in the archives of the mailman-users list. The FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp points to a few of them. In short, for 2.1.5 to 2.1.7, you can move the lists/ directory and Mailman will transparently update config.pck formats as necessary as lists are accessed. Note the following: If you move the lists/*/request.pck files, you also need to move any data/heldmsg-* files. OTOH, you can ignore any held messages on the old server, in which case, it's better to not move the request.pck files. If you want to move archives, you can move the entire archives/private/ directory. You don't really need to worry about archives/public/ as the symlinks therein will be recreated on the new system as the lists are accessed, but if you want to move archives/public/, make sure that you move the symlinks and not the directories they point to. If you want to be selective about which archives to move, make sure that you move both the archives/private/listname/ and the archives/private/listname.mbox/ directories for each list. You also have to deal with MTA aliases on the new server if the MTA uses aliases for Mailman. If the domain names for web and email will be the same on the new server, that's all. If not, you need to run fix_url to update the lists. Also, in this case, it might be better to just move the archives/private/listname.mbox/ directories and rebuild the archives with bin/arch --wipe so that the listinfo links in the archives will have the correct host name. If you are going to rebuild archives, it is good to first check the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file with bin/cleanarch. See: bin/arch --help bin/cleanarch --help http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.069.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] getting python errorss with check_perms
Hi, Running this as root so that it can fix any perm problems, but I'm getting what I assume to be python errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/check_perms -f Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/check_perms, line 382, in module checkarchives() File bin/check_perms, line 216, in checkarchives print _(\ NameError: global name '_' is not defined I get the same errors without the '-f' argument. Any ideas? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville OR -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] getting python errorss with check_perms
Todd, I think the bug URL you gave me is a wrong URL. Bug 132495 is a Japanese encoding bug and its status is closed (which I presume means fixed). That doesn't sound like the problem I'm seeing. In answer to your questions, the Fedora release is Fedora release 7 (Moonshine) and the mailman package installed is mailman-2.1.9-5.1 (output of rpm -qa). I just no checked, and there is not a more current package to download via yum. -- Rob Todd Zullinger said the following on 02/05/2008 04:34 PM: Rob Tanner wrote: Running this as root so that it can fix any perm problems, but I'm getting what I assume to be python errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/check_perms -f Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/check_perms, line 382, in module checkarchives() File bin/check_perms, line 216, in checkarchives print _(\ NameError: global name '_' is not defined I get the same errors without the '-f' argument. Any ideas? You said in another thread that you're migrating to a Fedora Core system. Are you using the Fedora rpm packages of Mailman? This looks like a bug in one of the patches that is applied in the Fedora/Red Hat rpms. If you're using the rpms, what version of Fedora are you running, and what is the version and release of the mailman package? The changes I'm thinking of were discussed at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/132495 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/rtanner%40linfield.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] getting python errorss with check_perms
Todd, That update took case of it. Thanks. -- Rob On 02/05/2008 05:56 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Rob Tanner wrote: I think the bug URL you gave me is a wrong URL. Bug 132495 is a Japanese encoding bug and its status is closed (which I presume means fixed). That doesn't sound like the problem I'm seeing. The bug summary may not sound like what you're seeing, but the patch that was applied to correct the initial problem does redefine _() and can cause the sort of errors you're seeing. I know this because I ran into some places where the patch was incomplete and caused just such a problem for me. :) In answer to your questions, the Fedora release is Fedora release 7 (Moonshine) and the mailman package installed is mailman-2.1.9-5.1 (output of rpm -qa). I just no checked, and there is not a more current package to download via yum. There may still be problems with the patch, as the maintainer noted in the last comment. The bug is closed with the resolution rawhide, which means that the latest updated patch may not have been pushed to F7 (I haven't looked closely, though you can by looking at the Fedora CVS: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/mailman/) There does happen to be an update that is in the updates-testing repository, and the patch in question has been updated in that version (mailman-2.1.9-5.3.i386.rpm). You can download that directly or enable the updates-testing repo to install it with yum like so: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update mailman This package should hit the standard updates repo very soon as it fixes CVE-2006-3636 (multiple cross-site scripting vulnerabilities). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/rtanner%40linfield.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem with URL host installing v2.1.9
Hi, This is a new install and not an update. I first ran configure with no options and then built/installed mailman. Then I reran configure with the argument: --with-urlhost=www.linfield.edu. I also verified Defaults.py: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.linfield.edu'. The problem is that the banners (stuff in the blue bar at the top of the page) all show the host name of the machine and not the URL host. Also, how do I give myself the authority to create lists from the web as opposed to running newlist from the command line. Whenever I try I get an error back saying that I'm not authorized. Thanks, Rob -- Rob Tanner UNIX Services Manager Linfield College, McMinnville OR -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Expiration on moderated requests
I am looking into a way to expire any moderated requests that are older than 2 weeks. Has this been discussed before? -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Interesting request...
AOL has implemented a abuse reporting system. IF someone who legitimately subscribes to the list (for whatever reason) marks the list traffic as SPAM, AOL will email a report to the server owner (if they sign up) with an abuse report. The BAD part about that is, that AOL will not tell you WHO it is. The best suggestion is to embed a piece of identifiable data into each message so you KNOW who the user is who received the email. Not knowing exactly how MailMan handles sending of email (maybe this makes a difference on performance, too) would it be hard to put this piece of data into each message mailed? Or perhaps as an on/off option? Perhaps (and this might take more work than is wanted) a userid field in the membership db (this message sent to listname-xx) where xx is the user's id. Or perhaps just an MD5 hash of the user email address and some sort of util to dump the addresses / hash values into a text file so you can look up who it is who's abusing that kind of thing, so that you can handle their unsubscribe or whatever... Just some thoughts.. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] conversion (from Listproc)
On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Melinda wrote: I could use some pointers in my conversion from Listproc to Mailman. This question is so broad as to be almost beyond the scope of this list. I'll just say a few things. List archives need to be exported as a flat file in *nix mbox format, and this can be used to create a Mailman archive. LISTPROC can't deliver its archives in this format (AFAIK), so there will be munging involved. Personally, I would ask if someone using a mbox mail app to read the list (Pine, Thunderbird, Eudora, etc) has a complete archive of the list, and use their archive file as a basis for importing into mailman instead of trying to use the INDex and GET file commands in LISTPROC to access the old archives. If LISTPROC archive files are anything like LISTSERV notebook files, I posted a message a couple of months back to the list outlining how to convert them. I converted from LISTSERV (though I use LISTPROC for work as well) to Mailman this year, and the biggest problem is user subscription and list options though, not archives. I would suspect the same is true for LISTPROC. It would help to know a little more about Melinda's list -- its general settings, number of subscribers, and even if it has archives. It's pretty easy to translate the results of a REView command to a mailman list settings unless the list has some very strange settings. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] VERP and AOL feedback
I have read a couple threads on this, but none have really been able to help me. I need to get the AOL feedback to work, but I need more header information. VERP works great if it wasn't for one problem. We have a HUGE customer base, and this changes header information that the customer sees. Is there anyway I could add header like X-Member. This way it does not interfere with what they see, or use for filtering. I have added custom headers already to our mailings, but I am not sure how I would go about getting the actual e-mail address of the customer in there. Thanks -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] FAQ 5.3 localdomain.localhost problem
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#5.3 I have the correct DEFAULT_HOST_NAME, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST in mm_cfg.py and I am still getting emails with urls referring to localdomain.localhost in them. I have restarted mailman after the change. I noticed in Defaults.py there is a note that DEFAULT_HOST_NAME has been replaced with DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. In any case, they are both defined and both correct. DEFAULT_HOST_NAME was NOT defined in my mm_cfg.py file when the problematic list was created. I added it to solve this problem. No other lists or new ones I create have this problem. This was the first list I created that has this problem. Ideas? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ 5.3 localdomain.localhost problem
I've updated FAQ 5.3 to clarify that DEFAULT_HOST_NAME should not be used and to reference FAQ 4.69 re: fix_url. withlist -l -r fix_url listname worked great. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Rate limit by domain/mx
I know this isn't really a mailman issue, but I was just curious, those that need rate limiting, what are you using? I really need this set up, we have one list in paticular that has almost 1500 AOL subscribers, which is an announce only list, but the owner sends out about 6 announcements at the same time flooding AOL with 9,000 messages, and as fast as our MTA can handle. Right now we are using sendmail 8.13.8. Thanks -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found
Thanks for the help. I found the problem. We had a new mod_security rule that was causing the problem. I fixed the rule, and everything's working again. Thanks, Rob On 11/2/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Smithers wrote: That's what I thought at first, but the rewrite modules is disabled in the Apache config, and there are not even commented rewrite rules in the httpd.conf. I've checked through the directory structure, and there are no .htaccess files enabling mod_rewrite, or setting any rewrite rules. What's in Apache's logs for these GETs? Do you have any public archives? If so, do public archive URLs work? You could do some tests. Try manually entering URLs in your browser like http://example.com/bad/path/to/thread.html http://example.com/mailman/noscript/nolist/thread.html http://example.com/mailman/admin/thelist/thread.html and see what happens. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found
Hello, I'm hoping that one of you can shed some light on a problem that I'm having with several established mailing lists. I recently moved all of my lists over to an SSL based connection. After the move I foud that none of my list archives, public and private, are available. The archive files are being updated, and if I go ingot the html files on the server I can see all of the messages. The problem is that Mailman is trying to send all archive traffic to .php extensions when all of the archive files have .html extensions. If I try for a thread view, which should, according to the index.html file launch thread.html, Mailman tries to launch thread.php which doesn't exist. When I made the change to SSL I used the ./withlist -l -a -r fix_url command. The only change I made was to make the DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN setting https://... in the Defaults.py file. I'm not running Mod_Rewrite with Apache, and can't find any potential culprits other than Mailman itself. Does anyone know what might be causing this? I'm running Mailman version 2.1.9, with up to date Apache web server software on an up to date Linux OS. The standard permissions on my archive files are: drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Sep 29 19:17 . drwxrwsr-x 10 webuser mailman 4096 Oct 16 03:27 .. -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 7289 Sep 8 04:15 60.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 7154 Sep 8 23:30 61.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 4040 Sep 15 18:32 62.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 6229 Sep 22 20:38 63.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 3144 Sep 24 17:46 64.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 6778 Sep 29 19:17 65.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 5586 Sep 29 19:17 66.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 2476 Sep 29 19:17 author.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 2480 Sep 29 19:17 date.html lrwxrwxrwx1 mailman mailman11 Sep 2 17:45 index.html - thread.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 2474 Sep 29 19:17 subject.html -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 2637 Sep 29 19:17 thread.html Thanks for your help, Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
