Re: Please help verify my procmail settings to go with mutt

2002-01-02 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [31-12-2001 18:17]: | René Clerc wrote: | * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [31-12-2001 17:15]: | | with postfix, just: || /usr/bin/procmail -t | |should be fine. | |the fancy sendmail style trickery shouldn't be necessary. | | But,

Re: A happy new year!

2002-01-02 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [31-12-2001 22:48]: | % Funny how I get to spend New Years Eve trying to make a heterogenous | % network of Linux and Windows boxen work with each other, and the rest of | % you get to party (hopefully) :) Trust me, I did! | Oh, quit your whining -- you know

Re: A happy new year!

2002-01-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! René Clerc spake thus: | % Funny how I get to spend New Years Eve trying to make a heterogenous | % network of Linux and Windows boxen work with each other, and the rest of | % you get to party (hopefully) :) Trust me, I did! Lucky you... eight hours of work all I managed to do was

Re: big mailbox v.s. rotated mailbox; thoughts

2002-01-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Rob 'Feztaa' Park spake thus: - It's useful to be able to search for every message a specific person has ever sent me. True, but I don't often need to look for old messages. In fact, I don't even know why I keep archives. ROFL :) Ah, I remember now. I don't like the way mutt

Re: big mailbox v.s. rotated mailbox; thoughts

2002-01-02 Thread Philip Mak
I just had another thought: Might it make sense to store sent mail together with normal messages? A fundamental problem is that mutt's Search feature cannot search over multiple mailboxes. Thus, if I want to review a series of e-mails that I exchanged with someone about a specific topic, then it

Re: A happy new year!

2002-01-02 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:26:46AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Happy 2002 to you all! Lets hope it turns out better than the last one! Why? Did something bad happen in 2002BC? -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg22087/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Cliff, et al -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % % On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:53:39PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Philip Mak said... % % % % Is it possible to see the SMTP MAIL FROM line of a message in my ... % If you mean the ^From_ line that looks about like % %

sending failures

2002-01-02 Thread Nick Wilson
Hi I'm getting 'failure to send' reports with the message 'localhost.localdomain does not exist.' This only appears to happen on .dk adresses. When I send to a .com there is no problem. Any ideas on how to fix? Cheers -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread Philip Mak
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: But it's used for message information, no? It becomes the ^From: line, or at least so it appears. That's why it's so easy to fake and so on, too, but it looks like whatever is put there would show up in the header. It's not the ^From: line. For example,

What's the trick to getting the sender address set properly?

2002-01-02 Thread Len Philpot
(I've also posted this to comp.mail.mutt) I'm encountering problems with getting my outbound mail to make the trip to the recipient, particularly with errors about invalid sender addresses, etc. Here's my mail environment : -- My local box ('vulcan', Red Hat 7.2, mutt

Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?

2002-01-02 Thread Alain Bench
Hello Charles, hello ALL, and happy new year for everyone! I'm new in this list, and not really fluent in english, sorry. But it's a good day to begin. :-) On Monday, December 31, 2001 at 11:15:10 AM +0800, Charles Jie wrote: I was able to request for receipt in my mail while using

Support for Maildir in mutt

2002-01-02 Thread Sudhir Kumar
We have qmail installed in our system and the default delivery mechanism is Maildir.How can I configure mutt to read mails from Maildir. Does mutt support Maildir format natively? If not is there a patch? Thanks, -- sudhir [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Working with mbox

2002-01-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Hey all. I was just wondering if there was some way that I could get mutt to automatically set up my mbox hooks for every folder in my ~/mail directory, so that way I can subscribe to a new mailing list without having to edit my .muttrc. Right now I've got this set up: mbox-hook =spam

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:24:57AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that goes on between MTA's. If so my mail server puts it as part of the Received header like so: Received: from ns.gbnet.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.70.126.10])

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Ben, et al -- ...and then Ben Reser said... % % On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:24:57AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: % I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that % goes on between MTA's. % % If so my mail server puts it as part of the Received header like so: % Received:

Re: Working with mbox

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Hey all. I was just wondering if there was some way that I could get % mutt to automatically set up my mbox hooks for every folder in my ~/mail % directory, so that way I can subscribe to a new mailing list without % having to edit my .muttrc. % % Right

Re: Support for Maildir in mutt

2002-01-02 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 05:16:49PM -0500, Sudhir Kumar wrote: We have qmail installed in our system and the default delivery mechanism is Maildir.How can I configure mutt to read mails from Maildir. I use: set mbox=~/Maildir set mbox_type=Maildir set folder=~/Maildir # directory with all

Re: Support for Maildir in mutt

2002-01-02 Thread Philip Mak
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Sudhir Kumar wrote: We have qmail installed in our system and the default delivery mechanism is Maildir.How can I configure mutt to read mails from Maildir. Put this in /etc/profile (or equivalent file if your system use something else): MAIL=$HOME/Maildir/ Does mutt

Re: List-Reply problems

2002-01-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:31:25 +0100 From: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: List-Reply problems Hi I'm having trouble replying to this list. If I enter ,L for a 'list-reply' I get the @gbnet address come up as the To field. I now have 'subscribe [EMAIL

Re: Using message-hook to run messages through a filter

2002-01-02 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2002-01-01 10:03 +, Benjamin Smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:36:03PM +0100, Andre Majorel wrote: On 2001-12-28 18:22 +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: I thought that message-hook ~f joe@blow\.com pipe-message /usr/local/bin/unmangle would do the trick

Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 09:05:40PM +0100, Alain Bench wrote: Hello Charles, hello ALL, and happy new year for everyone! I'm new in this list, and not really fluent in english, sorry. But it's a good day to begin. :-) On Monday, December 31, 2001 at 11:15:10 AM +0800, Charles Jie

Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?

2002-01-02 Thread Lars Hecking
Frankly it is a diabolical practise, causes uneccessary and pointless mail. If a mail is so important that you *must* be certain it has been read then phone the person up. Since the mechanism is inherently unreliable anyway, what is the point of using it ? Exactly. Every now and then, I

To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Jie
Mail consumes a lot of time. Is it possible to have mutt record the time I use to read or write a mail? I hope to know how much time I spend in a folder (a kind of info). Further, I want a timer to alert me when I'm going to run out of the pre-set time for reading or writing a mail. Are the

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Philip Mak
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Charles Jie wrote: Is it possible to have mutt record the time I use to read or write a mail? I hope to know how much time I spend in a folder (a kind of info). Further, I want a timer to alert me when I'm going to run out of the pre-set time for reading or writing a

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:16:10AM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: But it's used for message information, no? It becomes the ^From: line, or at least so it appears. That's why it's so easy to fake and so on, too, but it looks like whatever is put there

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:28:00PM +0800, Charles Jie wrote: Mail consumes a lot of time. Is it possible to have mutt record the time I use to read or write a mail? I hope to know how much time I spend in a folder (a kind of info). Further, I want a timer to alert me when I'm going to run

sending and signing as multiple people

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Hi, all -- If I were writing something with, say, my brother and we both wanted to sign it, we could each create a detached signature of the document and then post it and the sigs somewhere, or even mail the lot around. We could further put both of our addresses in the Reply-To: field,

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Cliff, et al -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % % On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:28:00PM +0800, Charles Jie wrote: % Mail consumes a lot of time. % % Is it possible to have mutt record the time I use to read or write a % mail? I hope to know how much time I spend in a folder (a kind of

Send-hook is Lazy

2002-01-02 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, I have set up my mailing lists to different addresses. To make it easier to write mails, I have this line in my mutt.rc, and similar lines for other mailing lists: send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set [EMAIL PROTECTED]' However, this hook seems to catch too late, i.e. I see the

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:58:15PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Are the solution there? Or quick solution available? A stopwatch, and/or an alarm clock. Excuse me but this is Mr Dumb question of 2002 :) I disagree, using a stopwatch means learning how to use it, then remembering *to* use

Re: Send-hook is Lazy

2002-01-02 Thread David T-G
Thorsten -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % % Hi, Hello! % % I have set up my mailing lists to different addresses. To make it % easier to write mails, I have this line in my mutt.rc, and similar % lines for other mailing lists: % send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set [EMAIL

Send-hook is Lazy

2002-01-02 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, I have set up my mailing lists to different addresses. To make it easier to write mails, I have this line in my mutt.rc, and similar lines for other mailing lists: send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set [EMAIL PROTECTED]' However, this hook seems to catch too late, i.e. I see the

--without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Claus Assmann
System: OpenBSD 2.8 ./configure --without-iconv doesn't work: checking for catalogs to be installed... de ru it es uk fr pl nl cs id sk ko el zh_TW zh_CN pt_BR eo gl sv da lt tr ja hu et ca configure: error: Unable to find an iconv function. See INSTALL for help I read the INSTALL file, that's

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Jie
Thank you for your answer, Philip. The idea is wonderful. Now it's crystally clear to me. I'll roll up my sleeves to code it. I've just got used to the built-in pager and thought their combination is not bad. Thus I might not plan to replace it with 'less'. Before I try to contribute mutt's

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
This is annoying. I've successfully compiled mutt without iconv by commenting out lines in config.h, so I think that this is just a braindead policy decision. Try commenting out the iconv test you quoted below in configure, and see what happens when you configure and build without iconv. Also

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:06:51PM +, Benjamin Smith wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:58:15PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Are the solution there? Or quick solution available? A stopwatch, and/or an alarm clock. Excuse me but this is Mr Dumb question of 2002 :) I disagree,

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:22:36PM +0800, Charles Jie wrote: Thank you for your answer, Philip. The idea is wonderful. Now it's crystally clear to me. I'll roll up my sleeves to code it. I've just got used to the built-in pager and thought their combination is not bad. Thus I might not plan

GPG and \012

2002-01-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
I still have the \012 character problem with PGP-signed messages in Mutt 1.3.25: [-- Fin de sortie PGP --] \012 [-- Les données suivantes sont signées --] \012 I thought this bug was fixed. Or perhaps I have misunderstood... -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ -

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Lars Hecking
without iconv. Also note that for some reason the iconv macro is defined twice in config.h: perhaps one of them is hardwired. So make The reason is that the definition in acconfig.h is superfluous. At a glance, it seems that about 20 definitions in acconfig.h are superfluous. (See

Re: Send-hook is Lazy

2002-01-02 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-02 16:16]: % I have set up my mailing lists to different addresses. To make it % easier to write mails, I have this line in my mutt.rc, and similar % lines for other mailing lists: % send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Makes

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-02 16:22]: I've just got used to the built-in pager and thought their combination is not bad. Thus I might not plan to replace it with 'less'. You might try $display_filter. Thorsten -- Das Briefgeheimnis sowie das Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis sind

Re: To log the time I spend in reading/writing a mail

2002-01-02 Thread Philip Mak
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Thorsten Haude wrote: I've just got used to the built-in pager and thought their combination is not bad. Thus I might not plan to replace it with 'less'. You might try $display_filter. I was thinking about $display_filter... that command is indeed executed when the user

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:20:14AM -0800, Claus Assmann wrote: System: OpenBSD 2.8 ./configure --without-iconv doesn't work: checking for catalogs to be installed... de ru it es uk fr pl nl cs id sk ko el zh_TW zh_CN pt_BR eo gl sv da lt tr ja hu et ca configure: error: Unable to find an

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: This is annoying. I've successfully compiled mutt without iconv by commenting out lines in config.h, so I think that this is just a braindead policy decision. Try commenting out the iconv test you quoted below in configure, and see what happens

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:29:08AM -0800, Claus Assmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: This is annoying. I've successfully compiled mutt without iconv by commenting out lines in config.h, so I think that this is just a braindead policy decision. Try

Re: --without-iconv doesn't work?

2002-01-02 Thread Lars Hecking
Claus Assmann writes: System: OpenBSD 2.8 ./configure --without-iconv doesn't work: The documentation in INSTALL is wrong. There is no --without-iconv configure option, and configure does the right thing by bombing out. I think this can be fixed, though :)

Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?

2002-01-02 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:47:14AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Are you sure that's not the RCPT TO: part? Your right. This is what happens when I post late at night. :) -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org I wish it need not have happened in my time, said Frodo. So do I, said

Re: GPG and \012

2002-01-02 Thread Jim Mock
On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 at 16:41:42 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I still have the \012 character problem with PGP-signed messages in Mutt 1.3.25: [-- Fin de sortie PGP --] \012 [-- Les données suivantes sont signées --] \012 I thought this bug was fixed. Or perhaps I have misunderstood...

message output after mutt terminates?

2002-01-02 Thread Claus Assmann
This behaviour is a bit strange on my OpenBSD 2.8 system: $ ./mutt -f =mutt 123 kept, 3 deleted. Between those two lines I read some mail and deleted 3. At the end mutt asked me whether to (really) delete them. I typed 'y' and then I had to hit return, which is different from the old behaviour

Re: GPG and \012

2002-01-02 Thread Benjamin Smith
The same bug also bites me, see in my pager I see a '?' instead of \012. -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg22134/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Info about field Status: and X-Status:

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Jie
My mutt in linux can not get along well with my mozilla in windows. I found mutt maintains Status:, and mozilla Status: plus X-Status. It looks there is something wrong with it. To do some more experiments, I need documents about the (X-)Status: field but I can not find. Could anybody show me

\222 instead of '

2002-01-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Hi there, looks like Outlook (specifically: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)) does something wrong when it base64-encodes a message: single quote becomes \222. Instead of I'm not sure, mutt would display I\222m not sure. Anyone else seeing this? How can I get

pgp-hook and key selection

2002-01-02 Thread Dale Woolridge
Attached is a patch which introduces two new variables, pgp_autoselectkey and pgp_confirmhook, with defaults of 0/no and 1/yes respectively. The motivation here is that when I use pgp-hook I really don't want to be asked if that's the key I intended to use. Arguably, the confirmation is useful

Re: \222 instead of '

2002-01-02 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: Hi there, looks like Outlook (specifically: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)) does something wrong when it base64-encodes a message: single quote becomes \222. Instead of I'm not sure, mutt would

Incorrect release date for 1.2.5.1?

2002-01-02 Thread Walt Mankowski
I just built and installed mutt 1.2.5.1. When I run mutt -v, it reports that it's Mutt 1.2.5.1i (2000-07-28). Did someone forget to update reldate.h? Walt msg22139/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Announce] SECURITY: mutt-1.2.5.1 and mutt-1.3.25 released.

2002-01-02 Thread Russell Hoover
On Tue 01/01/02 at 09:40 PM +0100, Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mutt-1.2.5.1 and mutt-1.3.25 have just been released. These releases both fix a security hole which can be remotely exploited. May we be told the nature (if not the details) of the vulnerability? --

Re: big mailbox v.s. rotated mailbox; thoughts

2002-01-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! David T-G spake thus: In fact, I often don't save the original message, but only my outbound reply with his message quoted in it. I can follow the conversation well enough iand save *some* disk space (yes, I already save a lot of mail, but This, from the

Re: A happy new year!

2002-01-02 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Benjamin Smith spake thus: Happy 2002 to you all! Lets hope it turns out better than the last one! Why? Did something bad happen in 2002BC? Yeah, that was a bad year for me. It was right near the end of the stone age, and all these bronze tools were created. It was obvious that

mail filtering with procmail

2002-01-02 Thread Raynald Mompoint
I just recently started using the combination fetchmail + procmail + mutt. Procmail seems to filter my incoming mail OK and puts them in the appropriate mailboxes. But I am seeing two things that dont seem right. 1. With mutt running, new mail that should be filtered appears to come into my

Re: mail filtering with procmail

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:49:40PM -0800, Raynald Mompoint wrote: I just recently started using the combination fetchmail + procmail + mutt. Procmail seems to filter my incoming mail OK and puts them in the appropriate mailboxes. But I am seeing two things that dont seem right. 1. With

Re: \222 instead of '

2002-01-02 Thread Robert A. Knop Jr.
Windows-1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1 and includes a number of additional characters. http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#CP1252 Windows users and their software usually mix in WIN-1252 chars in iso-8859-1 text. I think of it as their problem more than yours. It's their

change-folder in browser?

2002-01-02 Thread Will Yardley
maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a reason you can't do change-folder in the browser? -w

Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Jie
Hi, thank you, Alain, et al, After reading Cliff's post and mutt's manual, I am not sure whether Disposition-Notification-To: will do what I want. It's said it's dealt with by MTA. And reports success when the transmission succeeds. -- Does that mean the mail just succeessfully drops into the

Re: mail filtering with procmail

2002-01-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 02:58:36 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail filtering with procmail [...] procmail and it's use of locks is one of the greatest mysteries on earth (at least to a dummy like me) Hi Cliff, I see

Re: mail filtering with procmail

2002-01-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:50:17AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 02:58:36 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail filtering with procmail [...] procmail and it's use of locks is one of the greatest

Re: \222 instead of '

2002-01-02 Thread Roman Neuhauser
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:23:04 -0600 From: Robert A. Knop Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Magnus Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: \222 instead of ' Windows-1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1 and includes a number of additional characters.