On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:34:10 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Version 0.997 of XeTeX introduced a new concept to assign every
character a class value. You can define rules what should happen if you
switch for example from class 1 to class 2 and another
On 9/23/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this would be nice because many chinese and japanese fonts have very
ugly characters for normal latin texts and would be nice to choose
another font for them.
The second point is some it often neccesary to choose differents fonts
for arabic, greek ...
I guess that in LuaTeX you can compose your own font on the fly.
That's the virtual fonts Hans mentioned (like a vf in good ol' TeX,
but on the fly, as you say). See section 5.2 of the LuaTeX manual (pp.
70-72 as of September 18th), especially the last one with an example.
Arthur
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
I guess that in LuaTeX you can compose your own font on the fly.
That's the virtual fonts Hans mentioned (like a vf in good ol' TeX,
but on the fly, as you say). See section 5.2 of the LuaTeX manual (pp.
70-72 as of September 18th), especially the last one with an
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:45:41 -0600, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/23/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this would be nice because many chinese and japanese fonts have very
ugly characters for normal latin texts and would be nice to choose
another font for them.
The second point
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 9/23/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this would be nice because many chinese and japanese fonts have very
ugly characters for normal latin texts and would be nice to choose
another font for them.
The second point is some it often neccesary to choose differents fonts
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:45:41 -0600, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/23/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this would be nice because many chinese and japanese fonts have very
ugly characters for normal latin texts and would be nice to choose
another font
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:01:16 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's get even more funky: we could define text direction classes such
that switching from LR to RL automatically switches from, say, the latin
group (or cyrillic) to the arabic group (or hebrew), and direction
switching
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Version 0.997 of XeTeX introduced a new concept to assign every
character a class value. You can define rules what should happen if you
switch for example from class 1 to class 2 and another one if you do
the same in reverse order. The commands for this action are
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:41:08 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
So one additionally needs:
- (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself
- unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I
context does not use that file (plain may use it) we can
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
THis is a nice feature for our own simple plain documents but nothing
for ConTeXt because there is no replacement in pdfTeX/luaTeX but it
would be nice to have also something to use different fonts for latin,
greek, CJK without using environments and switch to them
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:33 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
THis is a nice feature for our own simple plain documents but nothing
for ConTeXt because there is no replacement in pdfTeX/luaTeX but it
would be nice to have also something to use different
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:45:25 -0600, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
can you also add ini files for the plain TeX formats with XeTeX, pdfTeX
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
hmm how many books do you have? :)
That's not how you should have asked it :-) You should have said yes
first and then looked for someone to type the bib file if Hans really
has too much books ;-) Or you could distribute the task ...
Really, we (=I) should
Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
well, if someone keys in my books in a bib file, i'll make a lua variant -)
hmm how many books do you have? :)
quite a lot (i sometimes buy them faster than i can read), but not all
qualify for a database -)
Hans
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
well, if someone keys in my books in a bib file, i'll make a lua variant -)
hmm how many books do you have? :)
btw, one thing that i noticed is that more and more (scientific) books
are typeset using systems that do interchar
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
hmm how many books do you have? :)
That's not how you should have asked it :-) You should have said yes
first and then looked for someone to type the bib file if Hans really
has too much books ;-) Or you could distribute the task ...
On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of
On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, we (=I) should move away from bibtex.
Has anyone on the list tried CrossTeX
(http://crosstex.sourceforge.net/)? I've successfully used it with
LaTeX; no idea how much trouble it would be to use with ConTeXt.
--Joel
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:45 +0200
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the
Quoting Joel C. Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, we (=I) should move away from bibtex.
Has anyone on the list tried CrossTeX
(http://crosstex.sourceforge.net/)? I've successfully used it with
LaTeX; no idea how much trouble it would be
So one additionally needs:
- (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself
- unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I
just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in
enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed)
this is not possible
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
So one additionally needs:
- (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself
- unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I
context does not use that file (plain may use it) we can indeed use
enco-utf for plain as well (also defines some named chars)
context
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from
Pragma tomorrow or when?
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i have to fix/test a
couple of xetex things (new xetex bin too)
Hans
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:46:32 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available
from Pragma tomorrow or when?
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i have to fix/test a
couple
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:46:32 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from
Pragma tomorrow or when?
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i have to fix/test a
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:46:32 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from
Pragma tomorrow or when?
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i
Thank you, Hans and Mojca, for replies.
The story started in Septemper, 10, when I updated cont-tmf files for my
mswincontext. I did it many times (once there was new update available) but
this time I'm gone into trouble. Context started producing broken pdfs for
every document with
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:46:32 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from
Pragma tomorrow or when?
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i have to fix/test a
couple of xetex things (new xetex bin too)
So the minimal distribution will come with mkii, mkiii, and mkiv? Thanks!
One question: does the bundled LuaTeX track the current
On 9/19/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget to incorporate tex-gyre, including otf's!
Is the installation really that hard?
I'd rather have a tarball to be unzipped over the directory tree than
have a constantly growing 'minimal' installation.
--Joel
Joel C. Salomon wrote:
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i need to update a few more binaries, and mojca and i have to fix/test a
couple of xetex things (new xetex bin too)
So the minimal distribution will come with mkii, mkiii, and mkiv? Thanks!
well, mkiii is something
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:33:42 -0600, Joel C. Salomon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/19/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget to incorporate tex-gyre, including otf's!
Is the installation really that hard?
The last time I installed TeX-Gyre only two fonts worked and the
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:45:45 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:46:32 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from
Don't forget to incorporate tex-gyre, including otf's!
I will force Hans into doing that in case he doesn't :)
Joking, of course.
But I would be glad if someone could help me testing fonts in
http://dl.contextgarden.net/misc/fonts/fonts.zip
It contains three folders: old, new and common.
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:45:25 +0200
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:46:32 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available
can you also add ini files for the plain TeX formats with XeTeX, pdfTeX
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I really think you should suggest removing something at the
same time :-)
But I would agree that it would be nice to be able to run plain
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
can you also add ini files for the plain TeX formats with XeTeX, pdfTeX
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I really think you should suggest removing something at the
same time :-)
But I would agree that it would be nice to
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
texexec --make --all --xetex plain
it could be just a matter of taste but I prefer to call just pdftex or
xetex and the engine with the preloaded plain TeX formats, this is
shorter because the format files pdftex.fmt or xetex.fmt are loaded by
default with the
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:33:42 -0600, Joel C. Salomon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/19/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget to incorporate tex-gyre, including otf's!
Is the installation really that hard?
The last time I installed TeX-Gyre
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:45:25 -0600, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
can you also add ini files for the plain TeX formats with XeTeX, pdfTeX
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I really think you should suggest
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:25:35 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I really think you should suggest removing something at the
same time :-)
How about the bib module :-)
LOL, best joke I've heard
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:25:35 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, you lot! They are supposed to be minimals. If you suggest adding
something, I really think you should suggest removing something at the
same time :-)
How about the bib module :-)
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
well, if someone keys in my books in a bib file, i'll make a lua variant -)
hmm how many books do you have? :)
Aditya
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hmm how many books do you have? :)
That's not how you should have asked it :-) You should have said yes
first and then looked for someone to type the bib file if Hans really
has too much books ;-) Or you could distribute the task ...
Arthur
Hello,
Waiting impatiently for updated mswincontext. Would it be available from Pragma
tomorrow or when?
Best,
Vaytcheslav
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