Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson
On 02/06/2011 06:49, Boris Liberman wrote: On 6/2/2011 02:45, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand From: pdml-boun

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/2/2011 08:07, mike wilson wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKqc_BPXAsMfeature=related It is good though I wasn't drinking any coffee or tea. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/5/2011 21:28, Bob W wrote: One of the popular science programs here has a presenter that always raises his voice towards the end of the sentences. He sounds vaguely similar to this accent except that his is perfectly clear. Well, he's a popular science program presenter after all. Send a

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/5/2011 21:28, Bob W wrote: The British Library has an interesting archive of regional accents. This is what Mike Wilson sounds like: http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/england/byker/ Thankfully neither him nor his wife sounded like this back in 2005. Otherwise I would

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-01 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman On 5/5/2011 21:28, Bob W wrote: The British Library has an interesting archive of regional accents. This is what Mike Wilson sounds like:

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-01 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman On 5/5/2011

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/2/2011 02:45, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan My god man, you folks have to get some national TV announcers showing the rest of your countrymen how things are pronounced. I think the TV network news did a lot to standardize the desirable accent over

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread David Mann
On May 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, William Robb wrote: On 05/05/2011 12:28 PM, Bob W wrote: Send a Youtube link if you can find one. It'd be interesting to hear. The rising intonation is a new thing to British English, having come here from New Zealand within the last 20 or so years, and is

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread David Mann
On May 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I thought this originated in Oz, but I'm more than happy to lay the blame on on the Kiwis. It's certainly been prevalent here for 20 years or more. Nah it must be an Australian thing? I've never noticed it? Dave? ;) -- PDML

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:57 +1200, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On May 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I thought this originated in Oz, but I'm more than happy to lay the blame on on the Kiwis. It's certainly been prevalent here for 20 years or more. Nah it must

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 06 May 2011 07:45 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: when talkies were first shown over here they had to have subtitles because British people didn't understand the American accent. It's a matter of familiarity, and over here regional accents are very much in favour for TV

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters when talkies were first shown over here they had to have subtitles because British people didn't understand the American accent. It's a matter of familiarity, and over here regional accents are very

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 May 2011 18:58, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Ah, now, the delectable Dr. Roberts. Lovely vowels. So it's not just me, great package ;) -- Rob Studdert (DigitalĀ  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-06 Thread Steven Desjardins
Many of my students us the trailing interrogative during presentations. I cure them of that quickly. Nothing says I'm insecure like constantly asking for approval. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 18:58, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/27/2011 01:28, Bob W wrote: Quite an interesting photo essay with sound on the BBC website about the Household Cavalry, who will be strutting their stuff on Friday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13192038 My father (RAF) marched in the Coronation parade in 1952, and spent the night in the

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread mike wilson
On 05/05/2011 15:06, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/27/2011 01:28, Bob W wrote: Quite an interesting photo essay with sound on the BBC website about the Household Cavalry, who will be strutting their stuff on Friday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13192038 My father (RAF) marched in the Coronation

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/5/2011 16:55, mike wilson wrote: Southern Scotland. That's not bad for a native speaker to understand. Here's a selection of more extreme versions from the same area. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rab+c+nesbittaq=f Hmmm. I think you live relatively close to there, right (*)?

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman On 5/5/2011 16:55, mike wilson wrote: Southern Scotland. That's not bad for a native speaker to understand. Here's a selection of more extreme versions from the same area.

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread mike wilson
On 05/05/2011 18:58, Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/5/2011 16:55, mike wilson wrote: Southern Scotland. That's not bad for a native speaker to understand. Here's a selection of more extreme versions from the same area. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rab+c+nesbittaq=f Hmmm. I think

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread mike wilson
On 05/05/2011 20:28, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman On 5/5/2011 16:55, mike wilson wrote: Southern Scotland. That's not bad for a native speaker to understand. Here's a selection of more extreme versions from the same

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread William Robb
On 05/05/2011 12:28 PM, Bob W wrote: Send a Youtube link if you can find one. It'd be interesting to hear. The rising intonation is a new thing to British English, having come here from New Zealand within the last 20 or so years, and is generally restricted to young women. Maybe your

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:10 -0600, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/05/2011 12:28 PM, Bob W wrote: Send a Youtube link if you can find one. It'd be interesting to hear. The rising intonation is a new thing to British English, having come here from New Zealand within

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
My god man, you folks have to get some national TV announcers showing the rest of your countrymen how things are pronounced. I think the TV network news did a lot to standardize the desirable accent over here. What you've got would drive me batty! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM,

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-05-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 4/27/2011 01:28, Bob W wrote: Quite an interesting photo essay with sound on the BBC website about the Household Cavalry, who will be strutting their stuff on Friday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13192038 My father (RAF) marched in the Coronation parade in 1952,

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan see what you started? Besides, it wasn't a post about the royal wedding, which bores me as much as it bores anyone, it was a post about an interesting photo essay, with a little personal historical note.

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Tim Bray
My ancestors rejoiced in the smell of the Ruthenians' tents burning, and the sound of their women wailing. Just saying. -T On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan see what you

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:25 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan see what you started? Besides, it wasn't a post about the royal wedding, which bores me as much as it bores anyone, it was a

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W, Are we getting a little testy today? You gotta chill out, it's only the internet! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan see what you started? Besides,

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You gotta chill out, it's only the internet! 4. The Internet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 27, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Bob W wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan Why don't we start up a database about the subjects that each PDMLer doesn't want to appear on this list, along with the subjects that might tangentially

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I made a simple request. No one is bound to honor it. On the other hand, I'm sure no one, especially not the Brits on this lists, want to hear again my opinions on those who claim special status as royal or noble personages in general, or my opinions on what the Norman and German rulers of

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: Can we instead discuss why somebody who one might have thought would have been a stickler for precise terminology chose to wrap the word royal in quotes? Good point. I don't give a toss about the royal wedding, but the misuse of quotation marks really bugs me. -- Mark

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Really bugs you? On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Francis wrote: Can we instead discuss why somebody who one might have thought would have been a stickler for precise terminology chose to wrap the word royal in quotes? Good point. I don't give a

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
Hey, I'm the chillin'est dude in all Chillindom. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 27 April 2011 12:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand Bob W, Are we getting

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It was not a misuse of quotation marks. It was a subtle reminder that I refuse to accept pretensions that some people are better than others because of royal or noble lineage. Dan M On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Francis wrote: Can we instead

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Can we instead discuss why somebody who one might have thought would have been a stickler for precise terminology chose to wrap the word royal in quotes? Good point. I don't give a toss about the royal

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
It was not a misuse of quotation marks. It was a subtle reminder that I refuse to accept pretensions that some people are better than others because of royal or noble lineage. Dan M they're not better than us because they're royal. They're royal because they're better than us. Or

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Subtle? I think not! The Royals are a important part of the picture postcard trade, which directly supports photographers, who in turn support the photographic industry, including the Pentax portion of it. It's a delicate ecosystem, so don't knock 'em. -bmw On 11-04-27 2:30 PM, Daniel J.

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread William Robb
On 27/04/2011 10:06 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I made a simple request. No one is bound to honor it. On the other hand, I'm sure no one, especially not the Brits on this lists, want to hear again my opinions on those who claim special status as royal or noble personages in general, or my

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
William, I don't want to get into that argument with you again, since it provokes you to profanity. You know how I feel about claims to royal status. Besides my general objections to the very concept of nobility, I am one of the few people on the planet who can actually be called a Certified

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread William Robb
On 27/04/2011 12:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: It was not a misuse of quotation marks. It was a subtle reminder that I refuse to accept pretensions that some people are better than others because of royal or noble lineage. We get it Dan. We get it every time the subject comes up. Why not

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 03:29:57PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: William, I don't want to get into that argument with you again, since it provokes you to profanity. You know how I feel about claims to royal status. Tell you what, Dan - you stop posting your loony-tunes justification for

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did not start it, William. I merely requested that we avoid posts about THE wedding, and others responded with references to my Rusyn heritage and things I had previously said. I have not said anything today about the House of Windsor or its predessors, no about the role of the British Empire

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have offered no political opinions in this thread, and I do not intend to do so. BTW, I will not object to posts and images about THE wedding, as long as they are marked OT and the subject indicates that they are about the wedding. Please feel free to share your joy among yourselves. Dan On

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread William Robb
On 27/04/2011 1:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: You know how I feel about claims to royal status. Yes, and expect to get sworn at by me every time you go off on another of your tiresome tirades about it Besides my general objections to the very concept of nobility, I am one of the few

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola I did not start it, William. I merely requested that we avoid posts about THE wedding, and others responded with references to my Rusyn heritage and things I had previously said. I have not said

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
I think it's all the Canadians fault. If they would have held the colonies together, they could have sent an army down to crush the American rebels. But nooo... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:27 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/04/2011 10:06 AM, Daniel J.

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have no problem with just about anything being posted here, as long as it is marked OT and labeled so we can tell what it is about, and whether we want to read the thread. I don't want to read, for example, about Donald Trump and his claims about President Obama's birth certificate. I can't

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-27 13:29 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I was given my Peasant's Certificate on the stage of the Shubert Theater, on Easter Sunday, 2005 (also know as my Broadway review). The Certificate was presented to me by David Hyde Pierce, Hank Azaria, Tim Curry, Sara (Dr Torres) Ramirez, and the

RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola I have no problem with just about anything being posted here, as long as it is marked OT and labeled so we can tell what it is about, and whether we want to read the thread. I don't want to read, for

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-27 Thread Stan Halpin
Actually Dan, you are confabulating two separate issues. Royal, as opposed to Royal or royal is the proper usage. Just as it is proper to call some people Sailors even if they have never been on a sailboat in their life. These are just labels that are in common usage to distinguish certain

From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread Bob W
Quite an interesting photo essay with sound on the BBC website about the Household Cavalry, who will be strutting their stuff on Friday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13192038 My father (RAF) marched in the Coronation parade in 1952, and spent the night in the police cells sobering up - so many

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Dan On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Quite an interesting photo essay with sound on the BBC website about the Household Cavalry, who will be strutting their stuff on Friday:

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 April 2011 10:13, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. I wouldn't, I prefer to be able to make the choice to view posts or not. -- Rob Studdert (DigitalĀ  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread William Robb
On 26/04/2011 6:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Sometimes life just sucks, doesn't it Dan. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread drd1135
-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand On 26/04/2011 6:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. Sometimes life just sucks, doesn't it Dan. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:28:11AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 April 2011 10:13, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I would appreciate it very much if we could avoid posts about the royal wedding. I wouldn't, I prefer to be able to make the choice to view posts or not. Can

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread William Robb
On 26/04/2011 6:28 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I wouldn't, I prefer to be able to make the choice to view posts or not. I'm actually quite excited for these two kids. I might very well get up at 4:00 AM just to watch the ceremony. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 April 2011 12:08, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/04/2011 6:28 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I wouldn't, I prefer to be able to make the choice to view posts or not. I'm actually quite excited for these two kids. I might very well get up at 4:00 AM just to watch the

Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-04-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Our entire household will be watching. Meg's Dad, who passed away a year ago, was born in Cornwall. His family maintained contact with the relatives back home throughout his life. He would have been watching, if only to grumble a bit about the excesses. We'll honor his memory and heritage with