RE: Pentax is history

2013-07-05 Thread John Coyle
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax is history On 7/2/2013 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: :( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. That's certain death. Look how Mercedes-Benz has failed as a marque

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-04 Thread Zos Xavius
I think there was some slight exaggeration involved. I haven't tattooed pentax on my shoulder or a spotmatic on my forearms, so you all can stop worrying so much. I'll drink the kool-aid for as long as it remains sweet ;) ps: the pentax community has been very kind as a general rule. arguably

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley on 2013-07-03 15:39 John Sessoms wrote Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount? i think the point is that Pentax Tokina have (had?) an agreement where Tokina would produce the same lens design in other mounts, but not in K mount, which is why Tokina doesn't seem

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Alan C
? http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/07/02/Pentax-Ricoh-announces-name-change-but-what-will-it-mean-for-Pentax-brand Alan C -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:05 PM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: Pentax is history How's

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Pentax is History.

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:12:25AM +0530, Bipin Gupta wrote: Tom, sorry, to you and Paul again. Our childhood Folklore tells us Two Sticks tied together are stronger than One. Obviously Two Businesses amalgamated as one builds on the strengths of each other. Your Bastards at Ricoh had a better

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread David Mann
On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two entirely separate matters. ;) Welcome to Hotel Pentax. You can check out any time you like... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
-will-it-mean-for-Pentax-brand Alan C -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:05 PM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
I'm not so interested in the company name (which changed several times over the years and usually did not include the Pentax word). I'm interested in good products and commitment to the system. I don't think the latest name change will affect that, for the better or for the worse, so it's

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 Just noticed this. After reading all the hand-wringing comments, my reaction is, I love my ist*DS. I'm perfectly happy

RE: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread Gerrit Visser
gathering. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 1:57 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is History Hey Larry Gerrit, you are welcome to stay with me in Bangalore. My daughter in the Bay Area tells me

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread CollinB
Well, Minolta's designs were improved upon once absorbed by Sony. Perhaps the same is in store? My wish would be that Ricoh does not destroy the whole thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Mullan
is. What matters is that the cameras still provide us with the images we love. jm -- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Tom C
From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com Tom you missed some facts and misquoted some. I read your article with great relish and did find it enlightening though. Hi Bipin, I wasn't trying to write a corporate biography. I know that PENTAX released the K-5 while being under HOYA's banner. II

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Bruce Walker
-- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread George Sinos
List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread George Sinos
with the images we love. jm -- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Tom C
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax. Regards, Bob S. Larry's house. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Just keep in mind that

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Jack Davis
Tiny nit, Tom. The K-5 soundly out resolved the D7000 and, I was surprised to learn, also the current well done D6. Jack From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: Pentax

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:12:53AM -0600, Tom C wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax. Regards, Bob S. Larry's house. He'll turn the light off for ya ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Aahz Maruch
-- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an insane asylum so... On 7/3/2013 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 3,

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
to learn, also the current well done D6. Jack From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: Pentax is history From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com Tom you missed some facts and misquoted

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:12:53AM -0600, Tom C wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Ain't that the truth... Where in California Is Hotel Pentax. Regards, Bob S. Larry's house. Har! On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:00 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 3,

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an insane asylum so... I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said that it was just about life in LA in general. Not nearly as fun. On 7/3/2013

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is history How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
On 7/3/2013 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: There's a theory that the back story on Hotel California is about an insane asylum so... I recently heard an interview with one of the Eagles who said that it was just about life in LA in

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
And there's a modest hotel named Hotel California on Ocean Boulevard in Santa Monica, just about a block south of the pier. Paul On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:03 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/3/2013 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:26PM -0400, P.J.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount? From: Zos Xavius The lens prices are obscene at the moment if you ask me. $1000 for a 12-24? robbery! esp when a tokina copy is like $500.. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly, I looked at

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
. 8-D From: Bob Sullivan Rick, I'm not saying THE SKY IS FALLING, just that the weather is moving in and the ceiling is starting to look a bit low. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Pentax is history. Pentax is dead. We're all doomed! If I

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: P.J. Alling When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 06:26:43PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 2/7/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 So what's

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which would include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. The K-5 was a huge upgrade. Worst how? 2X+ the resolution of the

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
I remember reading that Sony has replaced the Minolta proprietary hot shoe with something else weather it's another proprietary mount based on the ISO standard or something else, I don't know. The local Camera store that carries Sony only has the NEX line in stock. On 7/3/2013 6:10 PM, John

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
On 7/3/2013 6:18 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which would include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. The K-5 was a huge upgrade.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
That is not true...well mostly. You can shoot raw and convert in camera to TIFF on the K-7. You can't pick TIFF as a default format though. Personally I would rather have the RAW, especially with the k-7's noise reduction. LR does a better job in that regard IMO. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM,

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
The sony proprietary hot shoe was NEX only I believe(I could be wrong), but I believe that sony is going back to a standard hot shoe that will take mostly anything. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I remember reading that Sony has replaced the

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
Actually, its themes pretty much parallel those expressed in the song Life in the Fast Lane that was also on the album. The whole concept of the album was pretty much the dark underside of hedonism, greed excess infecting the 70s California music scene. From: P.J. Alling There's a theory that

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-07-03 17:54, John Sessoms wrote: Interestingly enough, there was a lightning strike nearby with the loudest, most ominous thunder I've heard in many a year just as I started reading this thread. Lights flickered a bit, but none of the UPSs even beeped. Probably doesn't really mean

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
I don't think it's the one from the album cover though. That one's somewhere down in Baja. From: Paul Stenquist And there's a modest hotel named Hotel California on Ocean Boulevard in Santa Monica, just about a block south of the pier. Paul On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:03 PM, P.J. Alling

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
So...I just bought a much sought after decent copy of the A35-105/3.5. 2nd copy I've seen in some months on Pentax Forums. I only need a couple more lenses to really complete my kit. I want a semi-decent MF 300mm prime, a fast 85mm, a 100mm macro (though I find my 16-45 with extension tube is

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread steve harley
on 2013-07-03 15:39 John Sessoms wrote Does Tokina still make any lenses in Pentax mount? i think the point is that Pentax Tokina have (had?) an agreement where Tokina would produce the same lens design in other mounts, but not in K mount, which is why Tokina doesn't seem to produce K-mount

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
Yes. The 12-24 was tokina designed and Pentax also shared the 50-135 design with Tokina. I believe Pentax developed that particular lens. I believe there may be some other Tokina designed lenses with the Pentax name on them over the years. In fact Pentax has had a long history of licensing optical

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
The Tiger Direct store here in Raleigh has a couple of Sony models in stock. I go in there every Wednesday one of the things I look at is the cameras, because they were the only store that ever had any NEW Pentax DSLRs in stock. They had the K-x, the K-r and most recently the K-30. They haven't

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
I think the nex-6 has a standard hot shoe. There was a big backlash against sony for changing the shoe. I would never personally buy a sony camera. I think their record with consumers and trying to lock them in to proprietary accessories as well pulling stunts like putting illegal rootkits on

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 09:40:09PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: Does Pentax USA even have a marketing dept? :( Mark! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, Zos Xavius wrote: I think the nex-6 has a standard hot shoe. There was a big backlash against sony for changing the shoe. I would never personally buy a sony camera. I think their record with consumers and trying to lock them in to proprietary accessories as well pulling

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 Oh dear. Another First World Problem to add to the list.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
No Mark. Just another yawn. Paul via phone On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 09:40:09PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: Does Pentax USA even have a marketing dept? :( Mark! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread P.J. Alling
Pentax doesn't want to repeat the MZ-D debacle. The MZ-D would have been among the first affordable, hell it would have been the first FF DSLR camera, in 2002. Quite a feat for Pentax to have for their first foray into the DSLR market. It was only 6mp but at the time most DSLR's were 6mp.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Zos Xavius
If they released a full frame in that body I think I would be in love. One can only dream. The Contax that was released around that sensor was a miserable failure so they probably took the right course of action as bitter as it left some people. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:53 PM, P.J. Alling

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Stay close to the candles. The stairway can be... treacherous. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org Sent: July 3, 2013 7/3/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax is history Someone said Frau Blucher! -- Doug Lefty

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/4/2013 2:23 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: I like Ricoh and their GR-D camera is a stunning piece of technology, so I wish them the best. I just hope they don't give up on Pentax or cannibalize whats' left of it. I want to still be a Pentaxian 10 years from now. Its true about it being like Hotel

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/3/2013 2:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Just noticed this. After reading all the hand-wringing comments, my reaction is, I love my ist*DS. I'm perfectly happy with it. But maybe I should get myself a K-5 ASAP. Not sure it would be wise for me financially, but it's my reaction. Eric, money

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 07:04:06AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: I think you confuse photographic gear (which is just a means) with the PDML as a community, which arguably is one of the very best out there. We have here few people who don't shoot Pentax and who greatly contribute to the

Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Bruce Walker
How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Walt
I suddenly feel like a hipster. -- Walt On 7/2/2013 10:05 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, recently (like two days ago) Carl Zeiss turned to be Zeiss. So it seems to fit the recent trend. Suddenly Pentax is up to date... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 2, 2013 6:05:59 PM Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: How's that for a provocative

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 11:05:59AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 So that's what it's like to lose a PRIC. -- Larry Colen

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Zos Xavius
:( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. If they were smart, it would be Pentax Imaging Company. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, recently (like two days ago) Carl Zeiss turned to be Zeiss. So it seems to fit the recent trend.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: :( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. That's certain death. Look how Mercedes-Benz has failed as a marque of Daimler, or Chevrolet as a marque of GM. Paul If they were smart, it would be Pentax

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Otis Wright
On 7/2/2013 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: :( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. That's certain death. Look how Mercedes-Benz has failed as a marque of Daimler, or Chevrolet as a marque of GM. Paul

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sadly, I looked at lenses today. A 15 or 20mm Pentax was $650. Even the humble 40mm was quite pricey. I guess I'm sticking with what I have, and will consider another system for full frame wide angle stuff. I don't think we will survive this transition. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Zos Xavius
The lens prices are obscene at the moment if you ask me. $1000 for a 12-24? robbery! esp when a tokina copy is like $500.. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly, I looked at lenses today. A 15 or 20mm Pentax was $650. Even the humble 40mm was

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Walt
On 7/2/2013 11:19 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I guess I'm sticking with what I have, and will consider another system for full frame wide angle stuff. I don't think we will survive this transition. Regards, Bob S. I have to say I have that same feeling. It may be premature and even a little

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 11:32:49AM -0500, Walt wrote: On 7/2/2013 11:19 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I guess I'm sticking with what I have, and will consider another system for full frame wide angle stuff. I don't think we will survive this transition. Regards, Bob S. I have to say I have that

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/7/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 So what's in a name then ? My first ever photography class at junior high school in 1972 was

RE: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Gerrit Visser
in fact. I get IS even with a 40 year old lens. gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 1:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax is history On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 11:32:49AM -0500, Walt wrote

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
On 7/2/2013 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: :( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. That's certain death. Look how Mercedes-Benz has failed as a marque of Daimler, or Chevrolet as a marque of GM.

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com I look at these changes, and things like the lack of a full frame option, and I feel certain that Pentax is doomed. Then I look at the pictures I get with my camera compared with what other people get in the same situations, or the size of the K-5 sitting

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote: Size and ergonomics is quickly adapted to. Nope, and I speak from lots of experience. Maybe for YOU that is true. However, if you truly want to argue the point, I suggest that you see how productive you are on each of Mac, Windows, and Linux. I'll bet

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote: A lot has been mentioned in the past about bang for the buck. Granted the K-5's offer that, However there's two parts there. 1, BANG 2. BUCK If one's more concerned about the BUCK, then by all means get the most BANG you can for it. If one's more

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Zos Xavius
The k-5 is what brought me to pentax. if they release another body that good I will be happy. If not, then nikon looks all the more appealing with their d7100.not to mention full frame and legacy glass galore! On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 02,

Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Bipin Gupta
Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with Pentax. Yes I do have a Ricoh film camera since 1990, but I am basically a Pentaxian. With the name change to RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD in place of PENTAX RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD, both Pentax and Ricoh are DOOMED. I shan't call

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Aahz Maruch Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:26:12 -0700 On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote: Size and ergonomics is quickly adapted to. Nope, and I speak from lots of experience. Maybe for YOU that is true. However, if you truly want to argue the point, I suggest that you see how productive you are on

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Aahz Maruch Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:28:07 -0700 What do you do when BOTH are important? How do you balance different kinds of BANGs? (One thing I really like about Pentax is having image stabilization in camera, just can't get that with Canikon.) It's that way for everyone except the extremely

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Rick Womer
Pentax is history. Pentax is dead.  We're all doomed!  If I had a dollar for every thread along these lines I've seen here, I could be retired rather than working about 70 hours this week. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal

RE: Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Gerrit Visser
3:36 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is History Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with Pentax. Yes I do have a Ricoh film camera since 1990, but I am basically a Pentaxian. With the name change to RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD in place of PENTAX RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Walt
Just keep in mind that switching away from Pentax and moving on from it are two entirely separate matters. ;) -- Walt On 7/2/2013 2:35 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with Pentax. Yes I do have a Ricoh film camera since 1990, but I am basically

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/2/2013 11:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: :( So ricoh absorbs pentax and reduces the name to a marque. That's certain death. Look how Mercedes-Benz has failed

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
OMG! They changed the name of the parent company. They didn't slaughter innocents. On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with Pentax. Yes I do have a Ricoh film camera since 1990, but I am basically a

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote: Aahz Maruch Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:26:12 -0700 On Tue, Jul 02, 2013, Tom C wrote: Size and ergonomics is quickly adapted to. Nope, and I speak from lots of experience. Maybe for YOU that is true. My son went from a PC to a Mac with little issue. He also

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick, I'm not saying THE SKY IS FALLING, just that the weather is moving in and the ceiling is starting to look a bit low. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Pentax is history. Pentax is dead. We're all doomed! If I had a dollar for every

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Pentax is history. Pentax is dead. ?We're all doomed! ?If I had a dollar for every thread along these lines I've seen here, I could be retired rather than working about 70 hours this week. Rick ? http://photo.net/photos/RickW Well facts are: (you of course know already) 1. Pentax wasn't

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Jack Davis
away by the resolution? Do you, still covet the K-5 and secretly take along as a back-up. (shh) Jack From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Pentax is history Aahz Maruch Tue, 02

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Paul Stenquist wrote: OMG! They changed the name of the parent company. They didn't slaughter innocents. Hi Paul, My crystal ball is broken.:) However, I have to feel the question is WHY? You've worked in very large corporations. CEO's, Boards, strategists generally just don't sit around

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:53:27PM -0600, Tom C wrote: If one's more concerned about the BANG, then get the most BANG and realize it'll take more BUCK. A friend of mine won at a round of Silicon Valley roulette, and is now a full time professional landscape photographer. On most years, he

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax is History Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with Pentax. Yes I do have a Ricoh film camera since 1990, but I am basically a Pentaxian. With the name change to RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD in place of PENTAX RICOH IMAGING COMPANY

Re: Pentax is History

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 04:31:18PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: OMG! They changed the name of the parent company. They didn't slaughter innocents. Mark! On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my reply to Ricoh:- Since the 1970s I have been with

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Jack Davis wrote: Hi, Tom! Have you made any editing program changes since using the D800E? How about computer or operating system? Do you find the large files at all unwieldy? Have you found moire a nuisance? Do you use continuous shutter once in awhile? Is the frame rate satisfactory?

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:59:35PM -0600, Tom C wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: OMG! They changed the name of the parent company. They didn't slaughter innocents. Hi Paul, My crystal ball is broken.:) However, I have to feel the question is WHY? You've worked in very large

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread P.J. Alling
When Pentax was first acquired by Ricoh, I read on someone's photography blog that Ricoh, wanted a prestige name on a prestige product, but unfortunately between Ricoh and Pentax they thought that Ricoh was the prestige name. Pentax/Ricoh imaging was just an interim name until the merger of

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
Paul wrote: The photo editors at The New York Times, Harris Publications and a number of other concerns I shoot for tell me I get at least as much BANG as any of their shooters. In fact one recently asked me how I achieve so much definition. i blamed it on the DA* 60- 250. A few (not

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Mark C
I wonder WHY Ricoh purchased Pentax. The cachet of the Pentax brand? It was already pretty tarnished in the overall marketplace in 2011 when the deal took place... The huge market share of loyal Pentax users... like us? If so, they did little hold onto that base... To provide a brand and

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 06:26:43PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 2/7/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: How's that for a provocative subject line? :-) No more Pentax, now just Ricoh in the company name: http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/309 So what's in a name then

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Paul wrote: The photo editors at The New York Times, Harris Publications and a number of other concerns I shoot for tell me I get at least as much BANG as any of their shooters. In fact one recently asked me

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Bill
On 02/07/2013 6:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Paul via phone On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Paul wrote: The photo editors at The New York Times, Harris Publications and a number of other concerns I shoot for tell me I get at least as much BANG as any of their

Re: Pentax is history

2013-07-02 Thread Tom C
It's important to note that you were shooting with a Pentax K-7, by my estimation the absolute worst of all the Pentax DSLRs I used, which would include all the top models. Even the istD was better in some ways. The K-5 was a huge upgrade. Worst how? 2X+ the resolution of the *istD, better

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