Re: K-1 Enablement

[John]

There is a difference between wanting a new camera and needing one.

If I bought a new camera only when I needed one, I'd probably still be
shooting with the K10D. If we all did that, Pentax - and most every
other manufacturer other than Canon & Nikon - would be out of business
by now.

On 2/24/2017 2:28 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/24/2017 8:36 AM, Mark C wrote:



I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding
as well.

Mark




FWIW, I was one of the people who kept saying FF was no big deal, APS-C
is just fine..
Until I got the K1.

bill



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/24/2017 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
like stacking multiple images.


You are full of it tonight. Go have another joint. :)





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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/24/2017 1:56 PM, Gonz wrote:

In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.



I worked for a full service photo lab in the early 80s that was hooked 
up to Kodak's Technet. We had a computer that was about as big as a 
fridge. The hard drives were massive, and I have no idea how much data 
it stored. It wasn't much.
We had 2 Gretag 3140 printers. We talked to them via a teletype, the 
program was on about a hundred feet of paper tape, and I believe the old 
machine was 8K of memory, the newer machine was 16K of memory, but I 
could be wrong, they might both have been 16k.
The computer had a row of switches across the front that had to be set 
in the correct sequence for the machine to boot.
They ran about 8000 6"x4" prints per hour, approximately 15 seconds for 
a 36 exposure roll of film.




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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bruce Walker]

And you could have sold it to one of the many folks keeping old
PDP-11's alive these days.

They really were art. They were hand-stitched and really cool looking objects.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Haha, when they dismantled a PDP-11 with 8K core at school, I was
> thinking: hmm I should take this core memory and keep it as a memento,
> but alas, I did not.  Now I wish I had.  It was art.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
>> anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
>> deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
>> thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
>> like stacking multiple images.
>>
>> I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
>> for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>>> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
>>> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
>>> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
>>> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
>>> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
 On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of 
> the
> past as well.
> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you 
> have a
> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>
> bill


 I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
 prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
 with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
 I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.

 Mark




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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Gonz]

Haha, when they dismantled a PDP-11 with 8K core at school, I was
thinking: hmm I should take this core memory and keep it as a memento,
but alas, I did not.  Now I wish I had.  It was art.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
> anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
> deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
> thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
> like stacking multiple images.
>
> I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
> for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
>> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
>> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
>> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
>> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
>>> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:

 I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
 of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
 past as well.
 The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
 up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have 
 a
 smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
 I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

 bill
>>>
>>>
>>> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
>>> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
>>> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
>>> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
>>> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bruce Walker]

I find it's a Really Bad Idea to keep these vintage computing
anecdotes in mind, though. All that does is hamper you when you are
deciding how to accomplish many computing tasks. If you keep on
thinking that 400 megabytes is enormous, you will miss opportunities
like stacking multiple images.

I remember how much getting a second 4K core plane (12 bit words!) did
for my PDP-8/e assembler programs. :)


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
> floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
> chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
> machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
> capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
>> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
>>> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
>>> past as well.
>>> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
>>> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a
>>> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
>>> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>>
>> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
>> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
>> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
>> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
>> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Gonz]

In the 80's, a company I worked for had the big room with raised
floors for all the computing equipment.  One day, after we had been
chronically short on disk space, a huge box came in.  It was a washing
machine sized disk drive from Fujitsu, that came with the whopping
capacity of 400Mbytes.  We were overjoyed.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level
>> of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the
>> past as well.
>> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked
>> up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a
>> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
>> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
>>
>> bill
>
>
> I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
> prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more efficient
> with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS stacks in PS.
> I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with K-1 files, but
> 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding as well.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/24/2017 8:36 AM, Mark C wrote:



I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding
as well.

Mark



FWIW, I was one of the people who kept saying FF was no big deal, APS-C 
is just fine..

Until I got the K1.

bill

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

On 2/23/2017 6:33 PM, Bill wrote:
I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The 
level of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a 
thing of the past as well.
The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files 
stacked up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so 
unless you have a smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to 
upgrade.

I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

bill


I did the upgrade to 32 gb / 8 cores / SSD last year, so I should be 
prepared. I use Zerene Stacker for larger stacks and it is more 
efficient with memory than is PS, though I usually combine multiple ZS 
stacks in PS. I'm sure things will feel a bit more sluggish working with 
K-1 files, but 6x7 scans weigh in at 560 megs so they can be demanding 
as well.


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

Glad to hear about the weight - it was one concern that I had, seems 
like a lot to lug around while traveling etc. For a general purpose zoom 
in situations where I don't want to carry a second lens I prefer the 
extra reach that the 28-105 gives.


Mark

On 2/23/2017 5:48 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
Mark, good choice. I got mine with the 28-105  a week ago and am still 
very much in the learning curve.
I was a bit worried about the size and weight of the K-1 when walking 
around, but  so far this is acceptable.

Now I'm trying my old prime lenses, but the 28-205 is also fine.

Henk



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

On 2/22/2017 11:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Congratulations.  The K-1 is a nice piece of kit, and I look forward 
to seeing what it can do in your hands. Although, I can't help but 
wonder if you'd be able to do more with your macros using the new K-p, 
the sample photos I saw showed it giving the K-1 a run for its money 
in high ISO, and it does have a smaller pixel pitch (24 vs 18 MP in 
APS). For just about everything else, except maybe long telephoto 
work, I expect the K-1 is still a much nicer camera though. 


I gave some thought to the K-3ii and K-P since either would also have 
pixel shift.  APS-C has some advantages for macro work in that the image 
does not have to be magnified as much to fill the frame. But ultimately 
the K-1 seemed to be the way to go. The only drawback to the K-1 that I 
see is that it might trigger an LBA relapse.


Mark

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

That should read Series 1 90/2.5 macro

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I really liked my Vivitar Series 2 90/2.5 macro. It was a heavy metal lens, 
> the first version of this iconic lens. Wonderful bokeh and very sharp. Still 
> bummed that it's gone.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
>> decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No 
>> shipping, no sales tax collected.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
 I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
>>> 
>>> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot 
>>> of my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 
>>> 100 does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is 
>>> also just a little bit sharper.
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Paul via phone
 
> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
>> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
>> year. I need a new macro.
> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a 
> too good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me 
> an offer.
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I really liked my Vivitar Series 2 90/2.5 macro. It was a heavy metal lens, the 
first version of this iconic lens. Wonderful bokeh and very sharp. Still bummed 
that it's gone.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
> decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No shipping, 
> no sales tax collected.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
>> 
>> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot of 
>> my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 100 
>> does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is also 
>> just a little bit sharper.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
> year. I need a new macro.
 I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a 
 too good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me 
 an offer.
 
 
 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

Yep. I bought one at B Found a slightly used one on eBay for $420, but 
decided it wasn't worth the risk, and opted to pay  $539 at B No shipping, 
no sales tax collected.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.
> 
> The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a lot of 
> my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The Pentax 100 
> does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 90, and is also 
> just a little bit sharper.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
 many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
 year. I need a new macro.
>>> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
>>> good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an 
>>> offer.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.


The tamron 90/2.8 is a very nice lens, but I wanted WR because I do a 
lot of my macro work outside, and it is often a bit damp outside. The 
Pentax 100 does seem to be just a dab more fairy dust than the Tamron 
90, and is also just a little bit sharper.





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Paul Stenquist wrote:

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.

I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an offer.



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I think I want the 100/2.8 as well. Good reviews.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for 
>> many years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last 
>> year. I need a new macro.
> 
> I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a too 
> good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me an offer.
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.


I've got a Tamron 90/2.8 272E that I need to put up for sale. I found a 
too good to resist offer on a 100/2.8 WR.  If you're interested, make me 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

Bill, what macro lens do you use? I was happy with my 90/2.5 Vivitar for many 
years, but I think it was stolen by a painter who worked here last year. I need 
a new macro.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 2/23/2017 12:48 PM, Mark C wrote:
>> I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am
>> hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference,
>> though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that
>> for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the
>> need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii
>> or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra
>> megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth
>> while.
>> 
>> I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no
>> reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the
>> results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous
>> landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.
> 
> I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The level of 
> detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a thing of the past 
> as well.
> The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked up 
> in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you have a 
> smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.
> I don't miss my 6x7 any more.
> 
> bill
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Bill]

On 2/23/2017 12:48 PM, Mark C wrote:

I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference,
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth
while.

I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


I've been doing a lot of focus stacked macros with pixel shift. The 
level of detail goes up quite a bit, and blown out reds seem to be a 
thing of the past as well.
The only downside is that a couple of dozen K1 pixel shift files stacked 
up in Photoshop take all 32 GB of memory and then some, so unless you 
have a smokin' hot box, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade.

I don't miss my 6x7 any more.

bill


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Henk Terhell]

Mark, good choice. I got mine with the 28-105  a week ago and am still 
very much in the learning curve.
I was a bit worried about the size and weight of the K-1 when walking 
around, but  so far this is acceptable.

Now I'm trying my old prime lenses, but the 28-205 is also fine.

Henk

Op 2017-02-22 om 21:59 schreef Mark C:
I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera 
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark





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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Gonz]

Awesome Mark. I only beat you by a few days.  I love it so far.  The
flexibility and configurability is overwhelming.  I've never had
aperture-bracketing before (unless I never read my previous manuals
thoroughly!), which sounds interesting.

The AF and image quality so far exceeds my expectations.  I can't wait
to take it on a good walk or a trip.  You'll be happy with it.


On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with
> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that
> I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some
> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX
> 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping
> that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that
> the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it
> did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35
> but we'll see.
>
> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the
> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my
> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>
> Mark
>
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

Looking forward to getting my hands on it tomorrow. I also want to test 
the Tokina ATX 400 f5.6. Its proven to be a good performer on APS-C 
bodies, we'll see WRT full frame.


On 2/22/2017 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with the A* 
200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's quite easy to 
focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. I use the D FA 
lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and the 150-450/ 4-5.6. 
I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes just a bit, and I shoot 
in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't want to deal with that.

Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with the 
28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that I 
already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some old 
film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 
(1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping that the first 
generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that the current version 
has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never 
know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.

I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my K3 
just got to be over bearing...

Mark


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

Thanks Mark.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>

Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement


I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am 
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference, 
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that 
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the 
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii 
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra 
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth 
while.


I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no 
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the 
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous 
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


Mark



On 2/22/2017 9:19 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the 
K-1 over the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>
Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable 
camera than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark C]

I've been doing some macros lately using continuous lighting and am 
hoping that doing them in Pixel Shift mode would make a difference, 
though the level of detail is already pretty good. I have to say that 
for macros some of the benefits of a full frame sensor are offset by the 
need to achieve higher overall magnification so I considered the K-3ii 
or the K-p which also offer pixel shift.  But I think that the extra 
megapixels and improved IQ from a full frame sensor will make it worth 
while.


I also see the K-1 replacing my 6x7 for landscape work. While a have no 
reservations about using the K-3 for landscapes I still prefer the 
results from a 6x7 negative. From what I read the K-1 is a marvelous 
landscape tool and I hope to put it to good use in that context as well.


Mark



On 2/22/2017 9:19 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the 
K-1 over the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom 
in particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does 
not have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). 
I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable 
camera than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark






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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I find that in comparison to the K-3, which is an excellent camera, the K-1 has 
better high ISO performance, better autofocus, particularly in low light, and 
all those extra pixels to play with when I want to crop a horizontal as a 
vertical. My only complaint is in regard to the overly tight clustering of the 
autofocus points.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over 
> the K-3?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mark C" 
> Subject: K-1 Enablement
> 
> 
>> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
>> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
>> I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some 
>> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
>> 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping 
>> that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that 
>> the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it 
>> did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 
>> but we'll see.
>> 
>> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
>> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
>> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>> 
>> Mark
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Larry Colen]

Mark C wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A*
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in
particular. I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


Congratulations.  The K-1 is a nice piece of kit, and I look forward to 
seeing what it can do in your hands. Although, I can't help but wonder 
if you'd be able to do more with your macros using the new K-p, the 
sample photos I saw showed it giving the K-1 a run for its money in high 
ISO, and it does have a smaller pixel pitch (24 vs 18 MP in APS). For 
just about everything else, except maybe long telephoto work, I expect 
the K-1 is still a much nicer camera though.




I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...

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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Alan C]

Hey, cool it man. I haven't progressed to the K5 yet, let alone a K3 or a 
K1.  Mark's old K7 is still doing OK.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Waller

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:19 AM
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Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement

Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over
the K-3?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" <pdml-m...@charter.net>

Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with 
some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm 
hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
K3 just got to be over bearing...


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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

My bad. Thought you made the move.

Paul via phone

On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>> I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro
> 
> I use my A*200 on a K-3, I don't have a K-1.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement
> 
> 
>> I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with 
>>> the A* 200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's 
>>> quite easy to focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. 
>>> I use the D FA lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and 
>>> the 150-450/ 4-5.6. I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes 
>>> just a bit, and I shoot in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't 
>>> want to deal with that.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
>>>> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 
>>>> that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs 
>>>> with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, 
>>>> Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  
>>>> I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
>>>> issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
>>>> that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
>>>> about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
>>>> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
>>>> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro


I use my A*200 on a K-3, I don't have a K-1.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>

Subject: Re: K-1 Enablement



I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro.

Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:

Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with 
the A* 200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's 
quite easy to focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite 
accurate. I use the D FA lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 
15-30/2.8 and the 150-450/ 4-5.6. I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite 
often. It vignettes just a bit, and I shoot in crop mode if I'm in a 
situation where I don't want to deal with that.


Paul via phone


On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in 
particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not 
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm 
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera 
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Ken Waller]

Sounds good Mark, but I wonder what advantages do you expect of the K-1 over 
the K-3?


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: K-1 Enablement


I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with 
some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm 
hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting 
issue that the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums 
that said it did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic 
about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.


I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
K3 just got to be over bearing...


Mark



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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Philip Northeast]

The only issue I have with my  Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art lens is the K1 
automatically sets the field of view to crop mode. I just leave the 
camera on the full frame setting.




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On 23/2/17 7:59 am, Mark C wrote:

I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went
with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron
28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1
performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A*
200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in
particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not
have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one
comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm
not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.

I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and
the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera
than my K3 just got to be over bearing...

Mark




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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

I meant to say, I think Ken has been using his with the A* 200 macro.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with the 
> A* 200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's quite 
> easy to focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. I use 
> the D FA lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and the 
> 150-450/ 4-5.6. I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes just a 
> bit, and I shoot in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't want to 
> deal with that.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with 
>> the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that 
>> I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some 
>> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 
>> 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping 
>> that the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that 
>> the current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it 
>> did not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 
>> but we'll see.
>> 
>> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
>> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my 
>> K3 just got to be over bearing...
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Paul Stenquist]

Congratulations. I love that camera. I think Len has been using his with the A* 
200 macro. I use the K 85/1'8 now and then and the A 50/1.2. It's quite easy to 
focus manually, with the in-foxes light being quite accurate. I use the D FA 
lenses for the most part: the 24-70/2.8, the 15-30/2.8 and the 150-450/ 4-5.6. 
I also use the DA* 60-250/4 quite often. It vignettes just a bit, and I shoot 
in crop mode if I'm in a situation where I don't want to deal with that.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went with the 
> 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 28-75 that I 
> already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 performs with some 
> old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 
> f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in particular.  I'm hoping that 
> the first generation SIgma lens does not have the mounting issue that the 
> current version has (I found one comment on Pentax Forums that said it did 
> not, but you never know). I'm not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but 
> we'll see.
> 
> I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and the 
> tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera than my K3 
> just got to be over bearing...
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: K-1 Enablement

[Mark Roberts]

Mark C wrote:

>I finally bit the bullet and put in an order for a K-1 today. I went 
>with the 28-105 lens since the 24-70 overlaps so much with the Tamron 
>28-75 that I already have. I'm looking forward to seeing how the K-1 
>performs with some old film era lenses - the FA 50 f1.7, F28 f2.8, A* 
>200 macro, Sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (1st generation) and FA 20-30 f4 zoom in 
>particular.  I'm hoping that the first generation SIgma lens does not 
>have the mounting issue that the current version has (I found one 
>comment on Pentax Forums that said it did not, but you never know). I'm 
>not all that optimistic about the FA 20-35 but we'll see.
>
>I've been doing some more stacked macros in the past couple weeks and 
>the tought that I could be doing these with a much more capable camera 
>than my K3 just got to be over bearing...

You're going to *love* the K-1.

Great control layout and user interface combined with stunning image
quality.

I use mine primarily with the FA 20/2.8, the 31/1.8 Ltd and the 77/1.8
Ltd. I also use the FA*28-70/2.8 and 80-200/2.8 from time to time.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
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