Skip GTK tests if no display available?

2011-08-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I recently uploaded a small dist to CPAN (App-TimeTracker-Gtk2TrayIcon) that uses Gtk2::TrayIcon to display my working status (powered by App::TimeTracker...) Now I'm getting FAIL reports like this: http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/0c00fda4-cde2-11e0-bbec-9aeec8b7ec30 [ERROR] [Wed

Re: Skip GTK tests if no display available?

2011-08-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:32:59AM +0200, Torsten Schoenfeld wrote: On 25.08.2011 08:51, Thomas Klausner wrote: You can use Gtk2::TestHelper to handle this automatically: https://metacpan.org/module/Gtk2::TestHelper. Hm, this means I'd have to go back to calculation the plan by hand

Perl QA Hackathon: Last call to apply for sponsorship

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! The phase for applications for sponsorship ends on Friday, 2010-02-12. We then shall deliberate over the weekend and announce the result afterwards so that travel arrangements can be made ASAP. If you're considering coming to Vienna, and want to apply for sponsored travel/hotel, add

Perl QA Hackathon 2010 Venue Vienna.pm Sponsorship

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
to the Attendees [4] page of the wiki [5]. Thomas Klausner, on behalf of Vienna.pm and the Perl QA Hackathon 2010 team 0: http://2010.qa-hackathon.org/ 1: http://www.metalab.at/ 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalab 3: http://vienna.pm.org/ 4: http://2010.qa-hackathon.org/qa2010/wiki?node=Attendees 5

Re: standard for internal-only tests?

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51:57AM -0700, Jonathan Swartz wrote: Is there a standard for signifying internal-only tests, and for make test to figure out when they should run? The Oslo Consensus http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/36128 -- #!/usr/bin/perl

looking for CPANTS (co-) maintainers

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! See over there: http://use.perl.org/~domm/journal/39189 -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$-gprint$_.$/}

Re: Maintaining state between tests

2009-04-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:22:16PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: For that reason I believe the idea is fundamentally flawed and a pain in the ass. I agree - at least that it's a pain in the ass, but sometime you just have to deal with something that's a pain in the ass and I was

Maintaining state between tests

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Is there any module on CPAN (or some other accepted technique) to maintain some kind of state between tests? I know that this will kill parallel testing, but I'm trying to test a rather long process involving several files and several steps, factored into several distinct test scripts,

Re: build_requires, the xt and build_prereq_matches_use

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04:58AM -0500, David Golden wrote: That's absurd. The Kwalitee analyzer shouldn't look in xt. Period. I agree partly (it can look, but should not add any dependencies), but I'm very unlikely to find some time to fix this in the next weeks

Re: CPANTS not updating some modules?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:31:28AM +0100, Marc Lucksch wrote: The update for some of my modules seems lost somehow Dotiac: Still 0.5, but 0.8_1 is the latest Dotiac-addon-html_template is missing completely. Is this an error on my part, or is there a bug somewhere? Very likely a bug

Re: Why make up a Makefile.PL (was: Re: git tarballs / tarfile comments)

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:16:35PM -0400, David Golden wrote: There are handful of things on CPAN that are just zipped .pm files. I cpants says: cpants= select extension,count(*) from dist group by extension ; extension | count ---+--- tar.gz| 14762 tgz | 241

Re: Test::Harness Output Change

2008-08-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 02:36:11AM -0700, Ovid wrote: unexpected consequences. It also highlights the issue of Test::Harness's long-standing practice of stripping the .t extension from filenames. Why? If we want other extensions, stripping them is probably bad. Actually, I'd love to

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-07-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:29:10AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: I am about to book my flight to Copenhagen but I have to decide when to come back so I was wondering what's going on with the Hackathon? I would assume that this is the authorative source if info:

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 01:54:19AM -0700, Ovid wrote: On a side note, I still don't understand why I sometimes get dinged for CPANTs errors. Here's one for HOP-Lexer (http://cpants.perl.org/dist/errors/HOP-Lexer): STDERR: Invalid row in Debian file:

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:10:07AM +0200, Salve J Nilsen wrote: I propose to split the current main and optional kwalitee scales into topical ones, so we can allow for richer set of metrics while allowing everyone that care mostly about certain types of metric access to untainted

Re: Proposed (optional) kwalitee metric; use re 'taint'

2008-06-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 03:57:26PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: * What's the procedure of getting this added to the CPANTS list of kwalitee metrics? Either you wait until I have tuits (but to tell the truth there are some more issues to fix with CPANTS before I can add more

Re: cpants.perl.org giving 404 not founds

2008-06-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 09:56:19PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: Just wanted to report that: http://cpants.perl.org/ is presently giving me 404 (not found) errors. My DNS currently resolves The server was upgraded to the latest Debian (with Perl 5.10, yay), and I guess that caused

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 03:55:38PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Is CPANTS looking for something special inside the LICENSE file? The currently running version of CPANTS has that bug. I think I have fixed that already in the SVN we just have to wait till Thomas has some time to upgrade

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-05-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:49:05PM +0200, nadim khemir wrote: In Oslo I proposed to organize a hackathon the week after YAPC::EU. Maybe you should add the hackathon to the YAPC::Europe 2008 wiki: http://www.yapceurope2008.org/ye2008/wiki -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-05-08 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:49:05PM +0200, nadim khemir wrote: In Oslo I proposed to organize a hackathon the week after YAPC::EU. .. Rapid feedback please, Nadim. Sounds very nice. But I have to travel back on Saturday, so I think I won't be able to attend... :-( -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: Preparing a new Test::* module

2008-04-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 02:49:05PM +0100, Fergal Daly wrote: On 09/04/2008, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Fergal Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say put as much as possible of this outside the Test:: namespace and then wrap in a thin

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:34:32AM -0400, David Golden wrote: I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is interested in meeting up,

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:58:39AM -0400, David Golden wrote: For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: Are there any plans on short talks introducing people to the various topics? I could prepare a short intro to CPANTS, and list my 'Testing Best

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:52:09AM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-19 09:25]: While I was away last week (snowboarding..) Do you ever do any actual work, Thomas? :-P Yes, I do! Here's proof: http://revdev.at (the very fresh (we finally

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:34:15PM -0800, Randy J. Ray wrote: information. Just a little while ago, I checked the CPANTS site and noticed I had a crapload of red marks, almost all of which are wrong (one of the two dists doesn't have LICENSE sections in pod, or a LICENSE file). But I'm

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: While I was away last week (snowboarding..) CPANTS seems to have acquired yet another bug. As soon as I have some free time (maybe tomorrow, but at the latest this weekend during FOSDEM) I'll take a look. It seems

Smoking private dists?

2008-02-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've recently started a new job (and a small company (which btw explains a certain CPANTS lagging on my part...)), and we want to smoke test our code. Are there any tools/frameworks available that would (in a perfect, lazy world) to the following: * fetch various projects from git (HEAD,

New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I'm currently thinking about a new CPANTS metric (and I even have a half-finished implementation..), and I'd like to get some feedback on it, before spending more time on it (or even releasing it..) The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a

Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! You might wonder why cpants.perl.org is still down, even though I found some time to work on it. Here's why: Some dists (eg Number::Phone) currently cause segfaults in cpants [Meta: I changed a few things in how cpants processes CPAN. In a first pass, cpants writes a YAML file for each

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks now. Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush. No, that was my fault, as I turned it off. CPANTS

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script with -w, it's possible to get lots of

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 11 Sep 2007, at 20:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks

Re: Kwalitee and other dists requiring report

2007-06-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:34PM -0500, Ian Malpass wrote: Would it be easy and/or interesting to add the kwalitee of the distributions listed in the other dists requiring X section of the CPANTS report? That should be fairly easy to do. I think I'll have some time this weekend/early

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:23:14PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: Test::Kwalitee currently exposes the known test types as methods. I can make it delve into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are actually available - but then what to do about the methods? Sorry, not a lot of

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

2007-04-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 03:56:03PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: I'm trying to use Module::CPANTS::Analyse, with the theory that will let me test modules locally without waiting for them to go through CPAN. .. Whenever I feed this a module to test, it prints 1 and 2 in the logfile

CPANTS up and running again

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! CPANTS is now up and running again, with fresh data, which will be available daily. (There might be a problem with UTF8 and the database, but that should be solvable soon (especially as I know finally groked Unicode)). CPANTS now lives on a new server provided by hexten.net . Thanks!! You

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to be getting his mail just now

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own server :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at

Re: Fixtures

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:46:19AM +1100, Kirrily Robert wrote: example used Test::Class's setup/teardown; would anyone else be able to provide confirm that I'm making sense in the following Test::Harness/Test::More style example: I had to do something similar just yesterday. I wrote a

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 06:58:11AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: But yeah, other than that, I agree, the metric should check that META.yml conforms to the spec it says it conforms to, and that a metric that checks for conformance to the latest version should be a bonus, if it exists at all.

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:35:41PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: Aha, since I have your attention... :-) I've been meaning to suggest the following changes, on the best and worst reports pages: This distributions got the most Kwalitee: -- These distributions have the most

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:47:36AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: meta-spec: url: http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-v1.2.html version: 1.2 The 'problem' is that this field was introduced in 1.1, and it seems that quite a lot of dists use 1.0 of META-spec. My

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:00:58PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: Oh so THAT'S where all those reports of -e META.yml not found were coming from. Module::Starter is being naughty and putting META.yml into the MANIFEST before it exists. Well, after fixing this by removing META.yml from

Re: Bioperl

2006-10-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 03:13:08PM +0100, Nathan Haigh wrote: I have just discovered the cpants and was wondering why only version 1.2.3 of bioperl has made it in and not the latest version 1.4? Does anyone have any ideas about this? CPANTS currently seems to have some problems with

Re: Getting Cruft off of CPANTS

2006-09-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:30:06PM -0600, Randy J. Ray wrote: I asked this once before, but rather than getting an answer, someone just did it. There are some modules that I've deleted completely from CPAN; one was because I renamed the top-level of the namespace (per conversation with

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:07:28PM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: I posted all of my thoughts on the Perl-QA wiki here: http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals Cool! I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor Szabo for implementing it).

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:24:16PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: Oww, that includes all of mine, even though they state clearly in the docs that they are distributed under the perl license. I assume this looks at the META.yml license key? I guess it's time to take

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:15:50AM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: Wow, excellent post! Some notes: The next step in the exercise becomes how to implement those measures. In the current CPANTS simple proxies are used for those measures. Namely, we assume that if there is a t/*pod.t file

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:28:56PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: Thanks for the updates, Thomas. And now on with the complaining! :-) - has_example An optional metric that checks if the author included a dir called 'eg|ex|example(s?)' which in turn includes at least on *.pl

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:23:39AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: - has_example I thought we were generally negative on this one, because it would encourage people to spuriously add trivial example directories to their distributions... Yes, but I've recently introduced the concept of

post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! During YAPC::Europe in Birmingham I did a (rather short and un-hackish) hackathon. Slides are available here: http://domm.plix.at/talks/2006_birmingham_cpants/ During YAPC, I added a few new metrics: - manifest_matches_dist Check if the stuff listed in MANIFEST matches what's in the dist

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: CPANTS Hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006]

2006-08-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! So I was stupid enough to offer an CPANTS hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006... If you're interested, join us (or only me...) on 31st Aug from 14:00 to 17:30 in the Shadowcat Room. I've put a few infos up in the wiki: http://wiki.birmingham2006.com/WikiPlan/wiki.pl?CpantsHackathon --

Re: Dependency trees

2006-07-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 10:24:49PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: Is there anything out there that will generate a tree of dependencies, probably based on META.yml? AFAIK there are several people working on stuff like that (Graph::Dependency, Module::Dependency, CPAN::Dependency, maybe more).

Re: some CPANTS news

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:17:02AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: Please note the for the next few hours cpants.perl.org will show slightly strange results, as a big reindexing is currently happending. It's finished by now. Here's a list of dists failing the new Module::Install metric

Re: Kwalitee metric: Community support channels

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Salve J Nilsen wrote: Is there a (public) authoritative META.yml spec describing required, recommended and supported fields? http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: Kwalitee metric: Broken Installer

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote: domm: What do you think? Is this a good metric? If so, would you like to include the plugin in the distribution or do you want me to upload a separate distribution? I've added your code to CPANTS (with some minor

some CPANTS news

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've found some tuits to spend on CPANTS, so I changed the whole author rating thing (aka the CPANTS game). I've split the metrics into core metircs and optional ones. At the moment, the only optional metric is 'is_prereq'. I've also changed the kwalitee rating from absolut to relative

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe BooK Bruhat wrote: Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq lists? Mmm? For example, see http

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:35:14PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: What the hell is the run thing in the latest run... is the run just half-way through or something? that was a bug in the templates. resolved now. (FYI: 'run' stores when the data was analysed (using what version of cpants))

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe BooK Bruhat wrote: Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq lists? Mmm? For example, see http

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I missed most of this discussion due to work and a very important shopping trip to IKEA (well, maybe not that important, but I'll let you argue this out with my girlfriend...) I'm also a bit exhausted now, so here are just some semi-random comments on this thread: - I think the biggest

Re: W3C validator

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:01:19PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: I checked it again, one can download the source code of their service from here http://validator.w3.org/source/ and it is even packaged in some of the linux distros. (It is of course slightly outdated on Debian) Someone

Re: Proposed kwalitee metric: installer_not_executable

2006-03-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:12:37PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: I'd like to propose a Kwalitee test installed_not_executable be added for which you get the Kwalitee point if and only if: 1) Both Makefile.PL and Build.PL (if they exist) are not executable 2) Both Makefile.PL and

Re: Test::Kwalitee 0.10

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:02:27AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: I've just opened a ticket on RT about the issue. A new version is on it's way to CPAN. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$-gprint$_.$/}

Re: Kwalitee in your dependencies (was CPAN Upload: etc etc)

2006-02-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:36:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: OK, speaking of Kwalitee, I saw cpants for the first time today. And saw that it claims to update every sunday, but there hasn't been an update since december 5th. On the one hand I'm having problems with the server

Fwd: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.5.tar.gz

2006-01-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I finally found some tuits to work on CPANTS again. As the previous implementation had some drawbacks, I started from scratch, and from another direction. I just uploaded Module::CPANTS::Analyse to CPAN. MCA contains most of the previous Kwalitee indicators and some code to check if one

Re: Test::Kwalitee - Where is it hosted?

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:15:45PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Dear List, In Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook it has a section on Test::Kwalitee. .. Actually the book strongly suggests that it's a real module which runs the Kwalitee checks on your code .. That's from section

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Gavin Henry wrote: I have just re-read the summary of this list; A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort for CPAN modules. and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. No it's not. The summary should

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:07:13PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: I have just re-read the summary of this list; A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort for CPAN modules. and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. No it's not.

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:54:42PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: Collecting any sort of coverage data is a complete bitch. Let me just say right now that doing it across _all_ of CPAN is flat out impossible. It's impossible. I completly agree. Now, if somebody sets up a system to

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 11:58:36AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: To me, this is a mark of Quality. It would be good to have it as a Kwalitee metric, but I see no easy way. The simplest way I can see would be to have a META.yml key that contains a URI to the HTML D::C report. I would

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up on qa.perl.org's front page? Took me a bit longer than planned, but renovating our new appartment sucks up a lot of time... Anyway, I rewrote some of the

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on qa.perl.org that refers to it. Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up on qa.perl.org's front page? I'll wirte up something a

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:02AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: Seriously though, I have a module whose test suite includes Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage, except that I use the following construct: SKIP: { skip( 'Test::Pod not installed on this system', 1 ) unless do

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Tels wrote: The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it looking for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that it was only looking for a string eval of use Test::Pod. I would like to know the same. I do

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard no-brainer tests. I'm

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-16 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:23:10AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: Yeah, something like that. Changes, for a suitably flexible value of Changes I implemented this in CPANTS. It will be in the next release (tomorrow), results should be available on Sunday morning. -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:13:31PM +0300, G?bor Szab? wrote: On 9/7/05, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) all tests are relevant b) all tests matter equally (are equally weighted) c) higher score means higher quality The scores are available in the database. There's no

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:31:37AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: flame wars. Best, at least for now, is to simply publish some kwalitee metrics as an optional aid to enthusiastic CPAN authors. If they prove good and useful, they will naturally become better known. Some of my recent

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:17:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: Adding a kwalitee check for a test that runs Devel::Cover by default might on the surface appear to meet this goal, but I hope people recognize it as a bad idea. Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:32:14AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Thomas Klausner wrote: I cannot check POD coverage because Pod::Coverage executes the code. No it doesn't. Yes, it does. Pod::Coverage uses Devel::Symdump to get a list of all subs. That said, if you don't want to run

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: There are now two kwalitee tests for 'has_test_pod' and 'has_test_pod_coverage'. These check that there are test scripts for POD correctness and POD coverage. Actually they check if Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage are used in

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:59:04AM -0800, chromatic wrote: Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors and coverage a good idea? I'm not 100% sure if it's a good idea, but it's an idea. But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not ship

new CPANTS version data

2004-08-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
://cpants.dev.zsi.at - Forwarded message from PAUSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:50:30 +0200 Subject: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.21.tar.gz To: Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: PAUSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] The uploaded file Module-CPANTS

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:29:10AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: The DBI gets 9. The one failure is permissions_ok: permissions_ok (i.e. all files are read/writable by extracting user) Why is that a kwalitee issue? I don't think it warrants impacting the kwalitee. First: Currently there

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:56:40AM +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: At the moment the focus seems very much on packaging. That's fine, but it does mean that correctly packaged junk looks pretty good. True, but most junk /is/ packaged badly. At its much easier to check for bad packages than

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:41:58AM +0200, James Mastros wrote: - Having POD - Not having the POD that h2xs puts in I wonder how many dists are authored by R.U. Thor :-) - Having a README thats allready covered. BTW, I tend to think that modules that require lots of other things

Re: CPANTS preview - coverage in CPAN testers reports

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 07:46:30PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Thomas Klausner wrote: - Test coverage. Impossibly, because CPANTS does not run code. But it could fetch it from some other place that does it, right ? Right. Back when Leon was maintaining CPANTS

CPANTS (was Re: Script to find Module Dependency Test Results...)

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:12:39AM -0400, Robert Rothenberg wrote: I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a given CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure reports of that distro or dependent distros for a given platform. Sounds a

CPANTS preview

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here: http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/ ( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..) in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist cpants.db (or cpants.db.gz) is a SQLite DB file Oh, there might be a bug, because 100 dists didn't get any

Re: Looking for module dependency information

2004-07-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 09:14:28AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: For a slightly easier approach, Module::CPANTS has a 'requires_recursive' method which lists all the dependencies, and all their dependencies, etc. Well it had this information, but currently it hasn't. But it will have it

Re: Aborting testsuits

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:01:54PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 02:40 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: [snip] Is there a way to abort a whole testsuite? [snip] Yup. Take a look at BAILOUT in Test::Builder. Doing: Test::More-builder-BAILOUT should

[ANNOUNCE] Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.010

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Finally, here's my first release of Module::CPANTS::Generator, a framework to test all distributions on CPAN for 'kwalitee'. It should be easier to use and run, it should be easer to add new metrics and different ways to report results. On the downside, it currently includes less metrics

Re: RFC: CPAN QA Project

2003-12-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:24:40PM -0500, Adam Foxson wrote: I suggested that it might be a sane idea to consider starting a project who's mission would be to take over the maintenance of distributions that, for lack of criteria with greater specificity: a) are popular, well-used

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:09:04PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: Something I'd be curious about: Modules with lower case names which aren't pragmas. (although how you determine this is hard) Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of those are in fact

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:42:21PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Thomas Klausner wrote in perl.qa : Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of those are in fact real distributions (eg. perl, parrot). In fact I think that perl itself shouldn't

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:57:34AM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: * contains files: * Makefile.PL or Build.PL or configure configure? there are currently 4 dists on CPAN that only include a configure script (makepp

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Tels wrote: * POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?) No. Some _very_ complex code takes little documentation like: Agreed. Probably something like: *.pm file has more than 1000 lines of code = bad :-) CPANTS

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53:15PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: * POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?) use Pod::Coverage ? As far as I know, Pod::Coverage compiles the module, which makes it not suitable for CPANTS. OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:24:22PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Thomas Klausner sent the following bits through the ether: OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow CPANTS to compile code (and thus use stuff like Devel::Cover) if not testing the whole of CPAN, but linting one

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