Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Nikita Kipriyanov
DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar пишет: For me XFS seemed very fast. But usually I use ext3, which is proven to be stable enough for most situations. I feel also that xfs if much faster than ext3 and reiserfs, especially when it deals with metadata. In some bulk operation (bulk changing attributes

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Johan Andersson
Wietse Venema wrote: Bryan Irvine: How long ago was that? I had the precise problem and had been told that particular bug has been fixed. My problems were ~5 years ago. Except that I'm never going to use it anyway because I just can't force myself to trust it. I've used Postfix under ext3,

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Wietse Venema
Nikita Kipriyanov: DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar ?: For me XFS seemed very fast. But usually I use ext3, which is proven to be stable enough for most situations. I feel also that xfs if much faster than ext3 and reiserfs, especially when it deals with metadata. In some bulk operation

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: Does XFS still overwrite existing files with zeros, when those files were open for write at the time of unclean shutdown? This I believe this was fixed in an early 2.6.2x release, cc'ing xfs mailing list to confirm. would violate a basic

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Wietse Venema
Justin Piszcz: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: Does XFS still overwrite existing files with zeros, when those files were open for write at the time of unclean shutdown? This I believe this was fixed in an early 2.6.2x release, cc'ing xfs mailing list to confirm. would

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: Justin Piszcz: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: Does XFS still overwrite existing files with zeros, when those files were open for write at the time of unclean shutdown? This I believe this was fixed in an early 2.6.2x release, cc'ing

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Nikita Kipriyanov
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: would violate a basic requirement of Postfix (don't lose data after fsync). Postfix updates existing files all the time: it updates queue files as it marks recipients as done, and it updates mailbox files as it appends mail. If there is a response

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Wietse Venema
Eric Sandeen: This would violate a basic requirement of Postfix (don't lose data after fsync). Postfix updates existing files all the time: it updates queue files as it marks recipients as done, and it updates mailbox files as it appends mail. As long as postfix is looking after data

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-31 Thread Wietse Venema
Dave Chinner: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:37:58AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Eric Sandeen: This would violate a basic requirement of Postfix (don't lose data after fsync). Postfix updates existing files all the time: it updates queue files as it marks recipients as done, and it

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Simone Felici
Charles Marcus ha scritto: On 10/29/2008, Joe Sloan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: All our production boxes are 100% reiserfs, and have been for some years, based on performance testing. They have been rock solid, and most of them have 800 day uptimes at this point. I did some performance

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:53:30PM +0100, Simone Felici wrote: I've also hear people who have had nightmares with ext3... No filesystem is perfect. No filesystem is perfect, that's certainty so. Sure, no filesystem exhibits *optimal* performance under all work-loads, but in terms of

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Jay Chandler
On Oct 29, 2008, at 1:29 AM, Simone Felici wrote: I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which filesystem do you use on your mailserver? I'm going to migrate

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:09:46AM -0700, Jay Chandler wrote: I would create the system on EXT3 (RHES) and the following partitions on rieserfs: /var/spool/postfix AND the partition that will contain all mails in MailDir format. At the moment the server has ~100.000 mailboxes and more or

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Randy
Joe Sloan wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Simone Felici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Postfix-Users! I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Simone Felici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Postfix-Users! I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Wietse Venema
Bryan Irvine: How long ago was that? I had the precise problem and had been told that particular bug has been fixed. My problems were ~5 years ago. Except that I'm never going to use it anyway because I just can't force myself to trust it. I've used Postfix under ext3, ffs(openbsd),

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Jorey Bump
Victor Duchovni wrote, at 10/30/2008 12:44 PM: Past reports of ReiserFS on this list indicate that it falls short of reasonable (i.e. perfect) data integrity expectations. I also value data integrity over performance and will add that XFS never made it out of my punishment closet into a

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Sloan
Victor Duchovni wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:53:30PM +0100, Simone Felici wrote: I've also hear people who have had nightmares with ext3... No filesystem is perfect. No filesystem is perfect, that's certainty so. Sure, no filesystem exhibits *optimal* performance

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread Jay Chandler
On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Victor Duchovni wrote: Mounting user maildirs via NFS is supported, mounting the P Doh, my error. You are of course correct-- this was in a pre-maildir environment, so /var/mail was mounted via NFS; the moving parts for Postfix lived on FreeBSD's UFS.

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-30 Thread DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar
For me XFS seemed very fast. But usually I use ext3, which is proven to be stable enough for most situations. -- Regards Dulmandakh

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Simone Felici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Postfix-Users! I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which filesystem do you use on your mailserver? I'm going to

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which filesystem do you use on your mailserver? I'm going to migrate a mailserver with EXT3 (and qmail) to a new

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Stefan Förster
* Simone Felici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which filesystem do you use on your mailserver? I'm going to migrate a

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Simone Felici
Stefan Förster ha scritto: Conclusion: Don't put valuable data on ReiserFS. Don't do premature optimization. You can always change filesystems if your tests show performance gains and you run into performance shortages. Cheers Stefan Thank you for the answer, I'll take a look to your tests

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Joe Sloan
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Simone Felici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Postfix-Users! I know, there is enough written on the net and on the mailinglist too, but have found only old results, maybe the meanwhile something is different, also I would ask you... Which filesystem do you use on your

Re: Which FileSystem do you use on your postfix server?

2008-10-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 10/29/2008, Joe Sloan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: All our production boxes are 100% reiserfs, and have been for some years, based on performance testing. They have been rock solid, and most of them have 800 day uptimes at this point. I did some performance comparisons a few months ago and