Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-30 Thread Michael Grunditz
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15146505/IMG_20150728_230655.jpg. SMSQ/E 3.22 on my STe. Michael On 30 July 2015 at 06:30, Wolf w...@wlenerz.com wrote: Oops, this ans(t for the list, sorry Wolfgang On 07/30/2015 05:41 AM, Wolf wrote: Hi, you can read / write bytes with the bget and

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-30 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Nice! That means you were able to fix it? Great. Can’t wait to try that myself. Tobias Am 30.07.2015 um 10:00 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15146505/IMG_20150728_230655.jpg. SMSQ/E 3.22 on my STe. Michael On 30 July 2015 at

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-30 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
...Ralf - Original Message - From: Michael Grunditz Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15146505/IMG_20150728_230655.jpg. SMSQ/E 3.22 on my STe. Michael ___ QL

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-30 Thread Michael Grunditz
Wolfgang fixed it, see the release mail! On 30 July 2015 at 10:26, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: Nice! That means you were able to fix it? Great. Can’t wait to try that myself. Tobias Am 30.07.2015 um 10:00 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com:

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-30 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, yeah I was lucky. There's still a little screen corruption when moving the pointer. Wolfgang Nice! That means you were able to fix it? Great. Can’t wait to try that myself. Tobias Am 30.07.2015 um 10:00 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com:

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-29 Thread Wolf
Hi, you can read / write bytes with the bget and bput commands. They shoud be documented in the TK2 manual. Have fun Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 22 July 2015 at 10:19, Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com wrote: On 07/21/2015 10:03 PM, Michael Grunditz wrote: It enters the code without corrupting it 9 times. Fails after that. So which is the last(?) module? This should be smsq_atari_driver_dv3_asm. Could you check by setting a

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Wolf
Hi, perhaps what you could do is modify dev8_smsq_atari_driver_dv3_asm by putting an rts at label d3r_init. That way that module will do nothing. Recompile everything and try to see what happens... Wolfgang On 07/23/2015 01:34 PM, Michael Grunditz wrote: On 22 July 2015 at 10:19, Wolfgang

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Grunditz
It is the debugger in the Hatari emulator. On 23 July 2015 at 15:10, Wolf w...@wlenerz.com wrote: Michael, what's the name of your debugger? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Ralf Reköndt
wrong? Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Michael Grunditz Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited It is the debugger in the Hatari emulator. On 23 July 2015 at 15:10, Wolf wrote: Michael, what's the name of your debugger? Wolfgang

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Aha, what I have thought. Though it was new for me, that there is a way to let it run on native screen resolution. Is that 640 x400? Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Wolf Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Hi, Ah, OK

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi, I can not see SMSQ/E working on the Hatari emulator. Does SMsQ/E intereact with the physical hardware, which a Hatari emulator does try to emulate, but not taht good. I think you need Atari Hardware to make this work correctly. I have my STFM with MOde 8 emulator, but I have to make a

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Grunditz
resolution. Is that 640 x400? Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Wolf Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Hi, Ah, OK, thanks. I downloaded this hatari emulator. I see the following behaviour: If I use this with the tos

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Wolf
Hi, Ah, OK, thanks. I downloaded this hatari emulator. I see the following behaviour: If I use this with the tos that came with it (emultos), in STE mode (32 Mhz, 4 MB mem) and use mono as Atari monitor, then smsq/e works fine. If I use any other screen mode, it doesn't work, which is not

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Wolf
Hi, I can not see SMSQ/E working on the Hatari emulator. Yes it does, in mono mode, under Linux. I've now sent a version to Michael that works, for me, under the emultos rom and also under tos 2.06. Hopefully that'll work also for Michael, and also on a real machine... I think, I

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-23 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Yes, SMS2 runs on native ST in native 640x400 mono with the SM124 monochrome monitor. Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Wolf Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited I have no idea what SMS2 supported. I'd be astonished, though

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-22 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 07/21/2015 10:03 PM, Michael Grunditz wrote: It enters the code without corrupting it 9 times. Fails after that. So which is the last(?) module? This should be smsq_atari_driver_dv3_asm. Could you check by setting a breakpoint at $12b40 and then follow the code after the last good

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 21 July 2015 at 21:56, Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 July 2015 at 20:53, Wolf w...@wlenerz.com wrote: Hi, disasm $12b40 $012b40 : 6052 bra.s $12b94 $012b42 : 7a4b moveq #$4b,d5 $012b44 :

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Wolf
Hi, disasm $12b40 $012b40 : 6052 bra.s $12b94 $012b42 : 7a4b moveq #$4b,d5 $012b44 : 6002 bra.s $12b48 $012b46 : 7a41 moveq #$41,d5 $012b48 : b3ca

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 21 July 2015 at 20:53, Wolf w...@wlenerz.com wrote: Hi, disasm $12b40 $012b40 : 6052 bra.s $12b94 $012b42 : 7a4b moveq #$4b,d5 $012b44 : 6002 bra.s $12b48 $012b46 : 7a41

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Derek Stewart
On 21/07/15 08:28, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: This might be a good idea. Does it need input to work or can it be configured to perhaps break when something fails? It's been a decade since I've used it, but IIRC it breaks before the boot process where you can give it a g

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 21 July 2015 at 09:28, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: This might be a good idea. Does it need input to work or can it be configured to perhaps break when something fails? It's been a decade since I've used it, but IIRC it breaks before the boot

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: But before Thursday I can't do proper serial. However I can spool the serial port to a text file. What for? So I wonder, can I send data to serialport just by moving data to the serial port address? I don't know which to use. I tried scc_data , but that did just

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, This is the loop: $012b46 : 7a41 moveq #$41,d5 $012b48 : b3ca cmpa.la2,a1 $012b4a : 6dfa blt.s $12b46 $012b4c : 4e75 rts registerdump: D0:

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 21 July 2015 at 12:27, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: But before Thursday I can't do proper serial. However I can spool the serial port to a text file. What for? So I wonder, can I send data to serialport just by moving data to the serial port

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: Frankly, I have no idea about Atari hardware. But I don't understand what you're trying to do anyway, sorry. In lack of a proper source level debugger I would like to do printf like debugging. If it is possible to print to the serial port I can add loads of printouts

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: This might be a good idea. Does it need input to work or can it be configured to perhaps break when something fails? It's been a decade since I've used it, but IIRC it breaks before the boot process where you can give it a g command to get it running again. Then it'll

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
Ok, this is definitely wrong. I very strongly suspect that this is part of smsq_atari_hwinit_asm, which should however go : at_mdloop move.w (a0)+,(a1)+ (NOT moveq #$41,d5) cmpa.l a2,a1 blt.s at_mdlopp rts That's exactly what I thought

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 21 July 2015 at 13:13, Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, this is definitely wrong. I very strongly suspect that this is part of smsq_atari_hwinit_asm, which should however go : at_mdloop move.w (a0)+,(a1)+ (NOT moveq #$41,d5) cmpa.l

[Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
Hi As you may remember I have been trying to get recent SMSQE to run on my 1024 STe. I have tried to run in it the hatari emulator and it does work when booted with EMUTOS, but not with the standard STe TOS. With the standard TOS I get exactly the same behaviour as on real STe, a garbled screen.

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
I think I can answer the last question myself. It seems to build , but it fails on the last atari component. sys_boot_st_host_link. Is that the PRG creation? Is sys_boot_st_host supposed to exist , in that case it is missing. ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
-Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:09:40 +0200 Von: Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Hi As you may remember I have been trying to get recent SMSQE to run on my 1024 STe. I have tried to run

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 20 July 2015 at 16:50, tobias.froesc...@t-online.de tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Datum: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:09:40 +0200 Von: Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Hi As you may

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
, July 20, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Hi As you may remember I have been trying to get recent SMSQE to run on my 1024 STe. I have tried to run in it the hatari emulator and it does work when booted with EMUTOS, but not with the standard STe TOS. With the standard

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Ralf Reköndt
understand Tony's way on the Atari. He'd done it with the first QL-Emulator (just JS). Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Michael Grunditz To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Ralf, it used to work. STe has some

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Ralf, it used to work. STe has some special initialisation parameters. Anyway, The detection works from what I can see. If I force it to go in ST mode,SMSQ just bombs. I also tried

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Ralf Reköndt
- Original Message - From: Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Hi As you may remember I have been trying to get recent SMSQE to run on my 1024 STe. I have tried to run in it the hatari

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: So somewhere in the loading process it crashes. If I break with the hatari debugger and disassemble I end up in a loop that doesn't end. I have no idea where the loop is in the source tree. There are multiple ways to find this, pretty much all involve noting a few bytes

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 20 July 2015 at 22:44, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: So somewhere in the loading process it crashes. If I break with the hatari debugger and disassemble I end up in a loop that doesn't end. I have no idea where the loop is in the source tree. There

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am 20.07.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com: Is there documentation on how the kernel starts up? Ie where are the drivers? Does SMSQ/E always depend on another kernel? The _driver_ files seems most empty. For example where does it get the framebuffer (the

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Ralf Reköndt
PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Am 20.07.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Michael Grunditz Is there documentation on how the kernel starts up? Ie where are the drivers? Does SMSQ/E always depend on another kernel? The _driver_ files seems most empty. For example where does it get

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am 20.07.2015 um 21:23 schrieb Ralf Reköndt ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de: Is there a way to let the user generate a SMSQ.PRG for Atari? SMSQ/E is not only SGC or QPC2 or SMSQmulator. Atari was in the first place, so still has to be maintained. Cheers...Ralf That’s what Michael is

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Grunditz
Very limited, http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/smsqegd2/index.html http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/smsqegd2/index.html the SMSQ Modules document describes a bit of the boot process. Apart from that, there’s only the sources afaik Ok thanks, The error is in the kernel (I guess in one of its

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Ralf Reköndt
-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited Ralf, it used to work. STe has some special initialisation parameters. Anyway, The detection works from what I can see. If I force it to go in ST mode,SMSQ just bombs. I also tried to force mono

Re: [Ql-Users] atari smsqe revisited

2015-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, So somewhere in the loading process it crashes. If I break with the hatari debugger and disassemble I end up in a loop that doesn't end. I have no idea where the loop is in the source tree. What kind of loop is it? Is it a branch to the same address? If yes, you might want to check