FYI
Our Thoughts and Prayers go out to all His Family and Friends
73 De Don KA9QJG
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/01/11367/?nc=1
TAPR President Emeritus Dr David Toth, VE3GYQ (SK)
David Toth opened the 2008 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Convention.
Watch the video
How would you stack a Kenwood TKR against a Motorola R1225?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote:
Skipp,
I agree with nearly every point you made, having had experience with both
the Kenwood and Hamtronics repeaters. However, Hamtronics and similar
I did have good luck with the amps .. I have 4 running at one time .. but
have moved on to another project and thay are stitting there in a rack .. (
the rack thay where ment to sit in)
Skip has had some luck with them also
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, KD8BIW sdenn...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks for forwarding, Don.
David VE3GYQ was certainly one of the good guys. Great sense of humor,
and very smart.
My last on-air conversation with him was driving down from one of the
D-STAR repeater sites that was used temporarily until the system moved
to the higher location here, trying
Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote:
Skipp,
I agree with nearly every point you made, having had
experience with both the Kenwood and Hamtronics repeaters.
However, Hamtronics and similar repeaters have one serious
deficiency: A total lack of PA protection against high SWR
due to antenna or
I would go with the kenwood every time. Better front end and more built in
controller features
We (my employer) have tons of the TKR-X50's out there working hard every day
running 50 (or 40) watts day in and day out with seldom a problem...
73
Norm
- Original Message -
From:
I feel a little pessimistic about this, in that I expect it to happen more
frequently as time passes. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help feeling that
we are going to gradually lose our spectrum as companies with deep pockets
buy our frequencies out from under us.
Richard
www.n7tgb.net
You can count on it. They are already after over-the-air broadcast and
satelite TV spectrum, and the TV people have deeper pockets than ham radio
ever will.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Richard
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:11 PM
Ah George,
Don't worry! The first time the device fails to deliver the goods to the
Public Safety guys, they'll stop using it. Good luck to them. They'll have
fun running up against the 1,000watt erp of many 70cm repeaters.
73,
Dave
Wa3gin
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From:
On 3/3/2010 1:11 PM, Richard wrote:
I feel a little pessimistic about this, in that I expect it to happen
more frequently as time passes. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help
feeling that we are going to gradually lose our spectrum as companies
with deep pockets buy our frequencies out from
If it crosses international boundries I expect it not to happen
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: gbis-reply-...@gbis.com
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:11:05 -0800
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
Take that crap up to 2.4 GHz with the rest of the garbage.
Maybe, but in my opinion the foot is clearly in the door.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: David Jordan
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
Ah George,
Don't
At 11:15 AM 03/03/10, you wrote:
Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
Hams get the shaft again...
George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
Someone needs to turn the tables on the rest of them - file for
primary on 220-222 MHz.
Since they'd be competing with high powered repeaters and government radars,
I thought 2.4 gig would have been a better choice than 70cm, but that's just
me...
Richard
www.n7tgb.net http://www.n7tgb.net/
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
-- Ronald Reagan
Jim,
when you say to use the 1200 baud pin, is that going to be regular analog audio
if the radio isn't in a digital mode? (I hope you answer yes!)
I'm wanting to set up a crossband repeater using a spare RC-100 controller and
two alinco's (a 135 and 435) and would like to avoid having to tap
My RBI-1 was working. Now what ever command you ask it to doit jumps the
frequency of the radio 15kc.
Reset does not help. trying to even change the power setting only causes the
RBI kenwood receiver to go up 15kc. Every command sent just compounds the
display frequency by 15kc.
When a
Wrong channel stepping on the radio it is connected to?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:08 PM, gibsn406 gibsn...@yahoo.com wrote:
My RBI-1 was working. Now what ever command you ask it to doit jumps the
frequency of the radio 15kc.
Reset does not help. trying to even change the power setting
So... is anyone gonna buy one of these things to see just what kind of
interference it will actually make in the 70cm band? 1 watt max and .25
watt nominal is enough to key up a poorly tuned and set up nearby repeater
or a distant sensitively configured repeater, and enough to produce decent
QRM
Or even unused traditional UHF TV channels which are only 30 MHz higher.
The bad part of this is if something goes to court, the jury will likely
side with those protecting lives over ham chat no matter what the laws
say and the hams will lose.
Joe M.
Richard wrote:
Since they'd be
There are plenty of options.the FCC has set aside spectrum just for Public
Safety and such devices, but they need input from us or all they hear is the
vendor biased story.not sure why the FCC felt compelled to allow this
request. Perhaps the vendor was concerned about building attenuation. I
Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get
attachments...
Laryn K8TVZ
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Henry ka3...@... wrote:
Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
Hams get the shaft again...
George, KA3HSW /
skipp025 wrote:
The more famous surplus commercial radio 224 MHz conversions
replace the PA with a Hybrid RF Amplifier Module... wonder if
they also include SWR Protection?
They don't - at lease not all do, but in the case of the MICOR mobile
- the power set functionality (power level
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, George Henry wrote:
Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
Hams get the shaft again...
Who wants to be the first to sue the FCC?
--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst
coachstevesmith w4...@... wrote:
Jim,
when you say to use the 1200 baud pin, is that going to
be regular analog audio if the radio isn't in a digital
mode? (I hope you answer yes!)
All the connections you desire are available on the D-9 (aka DB-9)
jack on the radio. I seem to
What? Just go and turn on your PL... come on! Lets use the technology that we
claim we know so well...
- Original Message -
From: Brian Raker
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving
Hey guys,
I was wondering if you all would entertain two questions that I have.
First, what is the purpose/use of reverse polarity coax connectors such as SMA
and TNC? I assume there are others but those are the ones I have seen.
Secondly, I ran across something regarding using small diameter
This is why public safety has its own band and spectrum. Where the hell is
our beloved ARRL fighting for our spectrum and fighting off these goons.
There is a lot of spectrum in the 220Mhz, why don't they use this since its
hardly used in the commercial market.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
No they will just cry like the military did with the PAVE PAWS SHIT.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, Co 80504
303-736-9693
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jordan
Sent: Wednesday, March
Yea, well from where I see it there is a new chief in town and he don't have
a clue.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:22 PM
To:
Mike,
R U talking about Ms. Smith, the desk jockey that replaced Riley? If so I
agree...clueless in Gettysburg!
- Original Message -
From: k7...@skybeam.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC
I'll tell ya what... I'll get one of these toys for our Fire Chief to test out
and we'll see how it does...P-25 sucks below ground level and dies above the
14th fl ... so there is already plenty of issues in Public Safety...if these
folks don't sell a bunch of these toys soon enough they'll be
HAHA,
Beloved ARRL... how much time do you thing those boys in Newington spend on
this planet? Not much I can tell you. I enjoy following them and keeping
track of how frequently they reverse their position on issues by 180 degrees.
Pretty pathetic performance on our behalf I would
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, David Jordan wrote:
There are plenty of options?the FCC has set aside spectrum just for
Public Safety and such devices, but they need input from us or all
they hear is the vendor biased story?not sure why the FCC felt
compelled to allow this request. Perhaps the vendor
I want to see what happens when the USAF complains of interference to the
PAVE PAWS system, like they did with the 70cm repeater operators. After
all, the coppers in the Bay Area (SF/Oakland) and New York have deep pockets
and each will probably buy a few of these at several grand a piece - only
Didn't the ARRL do that over BPL?
Mark - N9WYS
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, George Henry wrote:
Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
Hams get the shaft again...
Who wants to
Amateur Radio is NOT PRIMARY on 70cm in the U.S.. Never have been.
Never will be.
We are SECONDARY ...and NTIA let's us behave like we're primary... most
of the time.
That's why we lost with previous military systems (ask folk near Camp
Pendleton about that one), we lost with PAVE PAWS, and
On 3/3/2010 3:19 PM, Kevin Custer wrote:
In the case of the GE MASTR II, power control is done with a simple pot,
and all SWR protection, leveling, etc. is bypassed/eliminated - at least
with this interface board. Maybe someone has hacked the MASTR II PA to
allow for the incorporation of its
Actually, DPL/PL doesn't help. It only signals to the receiver when to open
squelch is all. If someone is transmitting and this thing decides to
transmit at the same time, you'll get an earful of noise, PL or not.
-Brian
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM, WA3GIN wa3...@comcast.net wrote:
That is a real stretch...these things are to be used for incidents that require
them...how many many high rise building fires do you have in your town...think
you can live with a little interference every 20 yrs. Get real.
- Original Message -
From: Brian Raker
To:
At 3/3/2010 14:19, you wrote:
skipp025 wrote:
The more famous surplus commercial radio 224 MHz conversions
replace the PA with a Hybrid RF Amplifier Module... wonder if
they also include SWR Protection?
In the case of the GE MASTR II, power control is done with a simple pot,
and all SWR
Try this: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/02/25/11361/?nc=1
Richard
www.n7tgb.net http://www.n7tgb.net/
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
-- Ronald Reagan
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
On 3/3/2010 5:29 PM, WA3GIN wrote:
That is a real stretch...these things are to be used for incidents
that require them...how many many high rise building fires do you have
in your town...think you can live with a little interference every 20
yrs. Get real.
The numbers are public in every
This is already happening in Australia. Amateurs are secondary users for
420-450MHz, with military and radio location being primary.
A few years ago our ACMA introduced Low Interference Potential Devices
license class (any modulation, for any purpose, 25 mW maximum, no license
required).
That is my concern, it'll be a foot in the door.
Richard
www.n7tgb.net http://www.n7tgb.net/
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
-- Ronald Reagan
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
You know Motorola told us the same thing when our FD was getting
interference from another jurisdiction on the same frequency. Well the ones
that didn't know squat about radio listened to Motorola and well many times
the mobiles could not even open the receiver because of the other
transmitter
Reverse threaded connectors are used to get a piece of equipment past
FCC type acceptance.
The type acceptance paper work specifies the antenna that is used for
acceptance.
Any other antenna voids the type acceptance.
Since reverse threaded connectors are not available to the general
public,
Actually, RP-type (RP-SMA, RP-TNC, etc.) connectors are very easily
available to the general public.
wlan-parts.com
oddcables.com
etc, etc, etc.
-Brian / KF4ZWZ
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV
glennmaill...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Reverse threaded connectors are used to get a
It's wideband so it's not going to key up your repeater and CTCSS does
not solve interference - it just masks it.
Joe M.
WA3GIN wrote:
What? Just go and turn on your PL... come on! Lets use the technology
that we claim we know so well...
- Original Message -
Except for the fact these users will be SECONDARY to US.
Still, try telling your local PD they have to shut their robot down
because they are causing interference...
Joe M.
Nate Duehr wrote:
Amateur Radio is NOT PRIMARY on 70cm in the U.S.. Never have been.
Never will be.
We are
At 3/3/2010 13:08, you wrote:
My RBI-1 was working. Now what ever command you ask it to doit jumps
the frequency of the radio 15kc.
Reset does not help. trying to even change the power setting only causes
the RBI kenwood receiver to go up 15kc. Every command sent just compounds
the display
yes and we live just fine with all the noise on the band...we're not looking
for clear channel...we're not running AM ;-)
- Original Message -
From: MCH
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO
We all know that they are available.
But, this is the way out to get the type acceptance.
The FCC is all lawyers with no technical people on staff.
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
At 09:27 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote:
Actually, RP-type (RP-SMA, RP-TNC, etc.) connectors are very easily
available to the general
UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I found
Search on Recon Scout in cameras an photos!
Is this the same device?
So much for part 90 licensing.
Jason, WA1NH
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote:
Except for the fact these users will be
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, wa1nh wa...@arrl.net wrote:
UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I found
Search on Recon Scout in cameras an photos!
Is this the same device?
So much for part 90 licensing.
Jason, WA1NH
--- In
Since hams are the secondary users of these frequencies I don't see any
alternative. But really how often do you think these things are going to
used? We've gotten used to not having 70 cm here in Northern California
because of Pave-Paws don't really miss it.
Dave
W6DES
-Original
180455347338
Just sent some pointed questions to the seller. Hope this is NOT the device.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX dcf...@... wrote:
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, wa1nh wa...@... wrote:
UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I
Well if this is it I had guessed on the Price But close I will Get that
little Sucker with My 440 HT
http://tinyurl.com/yeyccyk
Who will be the First do get the WARA Award Worked all Robot Award
73 De Don KA9QJG
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM,
Actually the DOD has been using these for some time and several
bomb disposal robots used higher power than these in the 440 band.
I know, I had and used several before retiring.
I am not worried as much about the interference to US.
Weak signals and short duration events.
What I am more
On that note I should point out that most explosives devices don't
like being exposed to RF.
And AM NTSC video tends to get into a bunch of stuff with the sync pulses.
I think this warning appears in most mobile radio manuals and is
posted around blasting sites.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM,
Really?. is that the real purpose of reverse-polarity connectors? I am
quite flabbergasted..
So what about the other question?.. using heliax in mobile installations?
Thanks
Albert
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV
glennmaill...@... wrote:
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