Adrian Brown wrote:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
Better late than never, eh?
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes (3 of them)
2) Does it work?
All work, though my original SAM has a damaged PSU that produces a poor TV
picture (but is fine thru
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:23:07 +, Stuart Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:11:53PM +, Nev Young wrote:
8) Would you develop a title for the sam still?
A non games title perhaps.
Would you mind expanding on this, please? I'm struggling to find tasks
that
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:51:09 - Luke Trevorrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a great idea. It would be nice if you could bolt on different high
level languages on top of the IDE, like C that could be compiled to Z80.
This would attract more people to develop and test for the SAM.
When did they add SAM support? The last time I looked at this I am sure they
didn't support it?!
Luke
-Original Message-
From: Frode Tenneboe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2003 11:24
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: a thought (was RE: Moment of truth)
On Thu, 16 Jan
Frode wrote:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/z88dk/
C cross-compiler to Z80. SAM Support included. No IDE and no debugger,
but I guess SimCoupe could be used as a debugger?
The problem is that without an IDE, then a debugger is pretty useless.
You need something which will allow you to track
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:07:17 - Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frode wrote:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/z88dk/
C cross-compiler to Z80. SAM Support included. No IDE and no debugger,
but I guess SimCoupe could be used as a debugger?
The problem is that without an IDE,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:53:34 - Luke Trevorrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When did they add SAM support? The last time I looked at this I am sure they
didn't support it?!
I added it a year ago with ansi just in (well, since sourceforge
CVS is down't I haven't been able to check that it's
Frode wrote:
You don't NEED that. I have no problems whatsoever having
source code in one window and the debugger/simulator in
another. Compiling in a third. Actually, I prefer it.
You -prefer- it? Why? It simply increases the amount of time and effort
you need to take.
I know. And tight
The problem is that without an IDE, then a debugger is pretty useless.
You need something
which will allow you to track the current position of code and refer it
back to a particular section of source, and automatically take you to
that source.
But this could be taken the route SN Systems did
But tight integration = faster development = more software.
It's an initial time investment which brings significant long-term
benefits.
Geoff
But I have to disagree here, the coding mostly takes less time than the
GFX/Presentation etc, how will intergration help you with that ?
By this I mean
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:06 - Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frode wrote:
You don't NEED that. I have no problems whatsoever having
source code in one window and the debugger/simulator in
another. Compiling in a third. Actually, I prefer it.
You -prefer- it? Why? It
Frode wrote:
This is a claim I have never seen substantiated.
What's to substantiate?
With separate systems I need to compile, upload the file somehow to the
emulator, run the emulator, run the code. I then need to set up the
debugger within the emulator to do exactly what I need (and depending
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 12:18:26AM -, Adrian Brown wrote:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
Sure.
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes.
2) Does it work?
Yes, although I am worried about the disk drive.
3) Do you still use it?
A little; I really need
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:11:53PM +, Nev Young wrote:
8) Would you develop a title for the sam still?
A non games title perhaps.
Would you mind expanding on this, please? I'm struggling to find tasks
that the SAM would be particularly good at doing.
--
Stuart Brady
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes
2) Does it work?
Yes - although I aint used it in quite a while. It's up in the attic
gathering dust. Make me an offer David - and I'll even return the games you
loaned me!
3) Do you still use it?
No need to - thanks to Sim Coupe.
4) How many
There seem to be two groups, those who want the same and keep using it, and
those who have one sitting in a loft somewhere. For those in the latter
group, are you willing to sell on some bits and pieces to those who are
still using theirs? Sell them to a good home so to speak? Or are you
There is quite alot of software / hardware im still after, and im sure other
people are.
Likewise... still a few gaps in my collection!
Colin
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam
Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
Issue Three of Sam Revival Magazine Out Now !
that doesn't
need to involve hard and floppy drives...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Adrian Brown
Sent: 15 January 2003 23:42
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
There seem to be two groups, those who want the same
Hi All,
Just time to answer the poll while the coffee is brewing and my workstation
is compiling; and as you asked so politely:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
I did up until late last year when I gave it away to a good
Hi, just my input:
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes 2 - One with Hard-disk the other no HD or diskettes
2) Does it work?
Yes
3) Do you still use it?
No - though I use the emulator a lot
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Lots
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and
Ian wrote:
8) Would you develop a title for the sam still?
I might
9) Would you help develop a title for the sam?
possibly
The Sam is the best 8 bit machine - and the emulator running at
500% wow-just mind blowing
Mmm. Y'see, Cookie, we should have built that z8000 board. :)
It
I wrote:
It occurred to me that one of the reasons I'm less likely to
develop something for the sam is that, although comet is
absolutely superb considering the hardware, it's not so easy
as a nice (eg) windoze app would be.
Sorry, I've just realised I'm being highly selfish in my
!
Luke
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2003 23:42
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
There seem to be two groups, those who want the same and keep using it, and
those who have one sitting in a loft somewhere. For those
about this way back in the past. Bob Brenchley would have found a way to
rubbish the whole idea no doubt.
-Original Message-
From: Geoff Winkless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 January 2003 09:36
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: a thought (was RE: Moment of truth)
Ian wrote:
8) Would
@nvg.ntnu.no'
Subject: RE: a thought (was RE: Moment of truth)
This is a great idea. It would be nice if you could bolt on different high
level languages on top of the IDE, like C that could be compiled to Z80.
This would attract more people to develop and test for the SAM.
Luke
P.S.I would have
There are several free ide's available, there was one developed
for the GBC which was a near z80 chip. Trouble is I still like
using comet :D
A.
Personally, I'm fed up with COMET now. I'm getting too lazy and
want it to fix my problems for me. How about an extension to it
that
2003 11:23
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: a thought (was RE: Moment of truth)
There are several free ide's available, there was one developed
for the GBC which was a near z80 chip. Trouble is I still like
using comet :D
A.
Personally, I'm fed up with COMET now. I'm getting too lazy
Geoff Winkless wrote:
It occurred to me that one of the reasons I'm less likely to develop
something for the sam is that, although comet is absolutely superb
considering the hardware, it's not so easy as a nice (eg) windoze app
would be.
I've used something called Assembly Studio 8X
Dave Laundon wrote:
Automatic upload from Assembly Studio 8X would be a
possibility as it has on output plugin system.
Looks neat. The plugin stuff is cute - we could define all the SAM
headers and pretend it's a type of calculator ;-)
However I was hoping we could go to the level of
I wrote:
For that, we're either going to have to write our own or have
access to source.
*doh*
I've also decided to make the source code available under the GNU
General Public License. It will compile under Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
(service pack 2 or higher).
I'll take a look, it might be
Geoff Winkless wrote:
*doh*
I've also decided to make the source code available under the GNU
General Public License. It will compile under Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
(service pack 2 or higher).
I'll take a look, it might be pretty perfect.
Cool :-) I missed that when I had a quick peek at
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
No - but its great to see Colin keeping up the good work. I don't honestly
know how he manages to get it done together with a full time job. All
I know is he either has no kids ot has devloped a Quazar time machine hooked
up to the
Personally, I'm fed up with COMET now. I'm getting too lazy and
want it to fix my problems for me. How about an extension to it
that automatically colourcodes known opcodes, EQUates and spelling
mistakes? Just like they do with my C compiler.-Tob
Colourcoding would be very nice - it's so
There seem to be two groups, those who want the same and keep using it,
and
those who have one sitting in a loft somewhere. For those in the latter
group, are you willing to sell on some bits and pieces to those who are
still using theirs? Sell them to a good home so to speak? Or are you
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
2) Does it work?
3) Do you still use it?
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:18 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Technically yes
@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Moment of truth
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:18 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:31 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Thanks for the quick reply :D - whats wrong with your sam? Colin Piggot
does repairs, i have a few spares as well. I hate to see
Sent: 15 January 2003 00:46
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Moment of truth
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:31 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Thanks for the quick reply :D - whats wrong
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes 2
2) Does it work?
Yes Both
3) Do you still use it?
Nope
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
About 30 Titles
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
Nope
6) Would
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
cant be that bad :) - the worst bit (other than the main chips) is the
keyboard membrane - i use the keyboard interface to solve that problem :D
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes
2) Does it work?
Yes
3) Do you still use it?
Occasionally, on retro evenings/parties
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Loads, mainly PD though
5) Do you still
) Hell, no. If it keeps people off the streets, and all that...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Adrian Brown
Sent: 15 January 2003 00:18
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill
Hi Adrian.
A very good idea this poll
Adrian Brown schrieb:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
2 SAM Coupe (one for replacement parts), one Elite
2) Does it work?
With harddisk(s) and CD-ROM better than any PC :-)
Adrian Brown wrote
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Not sure. (!!) If I could brave the ex-girlfriend's father, probably :)
2) Does it work?
It did last time I saw it. That was about 7 years ago though :)
3) Do you still use it?
No. Play with the emulator sometimes though.
4) How many
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
YES
2) Does it work?
YES
3) Do you still use it?
YES
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
10 or so
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
YES
6) Would you buy a
Title: RE: Moment of truth
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes.
2) Does it work?
Yes. (though the DD whines)
3) Do you still use it?
No!
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Every single FRED, WATERWORKS 12, TNT, SAMPaint, LEMMINGS and some others.
5) Do you still actively seek
Adrian Brown wrote:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes 2 (with box), and 2 pcb's from which one is working
2) Does it work?
Only one has no keyboard problems
3) Do you still use it?
Its sitting right next to my
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes
2) Does it work?
Last time I powered it up it did
3) Do you still use it?
No
4) How many
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Two of, one main one and a spare to raid for parts.
2) Does it work?
They both do, although I think one of the PSU's is dead now.
3) Do you still use it?
Not really - a lack of desk space has relegated it to the cupboard along
with the Atari ST I found
Adrian Brown wrote:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes, three in fact.
2) Does it work?
One of them died some time ago, in an unfortunate incident involving a 27V
power supply line. It's sat in my parent's loft at the
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yep
2) Does it work?
Yep!
3) Do you still use it?
Yep - every day mate
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
About 30
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
Yes, though I can't afford em.
6) Would you buy a new game for the
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes, a couple.
2) Does it work?
One does after a major repair job from Mr Piggot, the other is in need of a
little attention, which it will get soon hopefully.
3) Do you still use it?
Yes, it's on my desk and I recently bought a nice little telly for it. I
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 2:03 pm, Andrew Collier wrote:
my parent's loft
Ahem. Sorry - parents'
Before Ian says anything.
Andrew
--
---Andrew Collier
http://www.intensity.org.uk/ ---
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On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 2:03 pm, Andrew Collier wrote:
my parent's loft
Ahem. Sorry - parents'
Before Ian says anything.
Andrew
Ouch! You'll never get into the Booker Prize shortlist!
-H
Andrew C wrote:
Before Ian says anything.
Elder siblings, huh? Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em.
Geoff
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This sort of information is great for people who still want to do
stuff community-wise on the SAM. Would SAM Community like to add it
to its original database (I recall the questions were quite
similar??) and publish on its website?
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:18 AM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes, 2 of them and some
Here we go
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2003 00:18
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes
2) Does
This sort of information is great for people who still want to do
stuff community-wise on the SAM. Would SAM Community like to add it
to its original database (I recall the questions were quite
similar??) and publish on its website?
It's probably not much use as that was a good 2 or 3 years
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yep.
2) Does it work?
It did the last time I turned it on - over a year ago.
3) Do you still use it?
See answer to question 2...
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Most of it.
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
No.
6)
Just had a read through the all the mail on the list after returning from work,
and I guess it's my turn to answer some of Adrian's questions!
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes... Seven of the little blighters! (plus two extra duff mobos)
2) Does it work?
All do... I have my main sam,
Tobermory wrote:
6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was
right?
Yes, as many as come out. Marketing tip: I could buy 6 games at £5
but not one game at £25. It's because I buy on a whim, and £25 is
big enough to save. Sorry Quasar.
It's a good job then I don't
Might as well join in...
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Not anymore :-(
2) Does it work?
3) Do you still use it?
Very rarely, by emulator.
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Loads - most of the commercial games, every fred and a load of other stuff
(SAM Supp, SCAC etc)
Well, here's my answers incase anyone is interested!
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes - 4 to be precise. (2 in the loft and 2 in my room)
2) Does it work?
Three function perfectly, and one has a dodgy TV
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yup, a few - maybe two or three.
2) Does it work?
Yes.
3) Do you still use it?
Nope - use Sim coupe once in a while though.
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Most of them I think. And I'll back up Mr Skardon's claim ;)
5) Do you still actively
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes.
2) Does it work?
Yes.
3) Do you still use it?
Not really. Once or twice a year maybe. Simcoupe has made me lazy.
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Several of the
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
Yes
2) Does it work?
Last time I tried - Yes.
3) Do you still use it?
No
4) How many bits of sam software have you got?
Half a dozen games, a couple of bits of utility, lots of Fred
5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces?
No
6)
- Original Message -
From: Stewart Skardon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Moment of truth
2) Does it work?
Three function perfectly, and one has a dodgy TV output.
Do you want to sell this one at all
Pls
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:18:26 -, Adrian Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe:
I have 3 or 4 complete ones somewhere and loads of bits.
2) Does it work?
Last time I looked they did.
3) Do you
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