Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On 25/03/07, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I contacted skype about this.. but of course they didn't properly read what I said. Ah well.. at least they replied. See their reply and my original message below. Skype freezes ubuntu 6.10 completely, but for about one or two minutes, after which there is an error message in skype and then normal function returns. I've just got around to check Skype's Linux forums and it appears to be a very well known problem (TM), for a long time and with absolutely zero response from Skype. I resort to Ctrl-Q (quit)/restart Skype whenever I remember to do this so it won't happen next time someone calls me on Skype. Also when I manage to use it, almost invariably the second call on it will be very choppy until I restart skype. VERY VERY annoying but that's what we use at work and it's still the only way to communicate with Windows users through double-NAT. It seems that some other process is using ALSA (?) but what? and shouldn't ALSA be able to handle several processes? Apparently it's a Skype-specific issue, not ALSA. Does anyone else have a solution to this problem? It happens on a frequent but irregular basis.. enough to be embarrassing when I tell people how wonderful linux is. If you find any, I'll be very delighted to hear. I tried running OpenWengo but it seems to freeze on the initial settings window, and I'm not yet sure how useful it'll be through double-NAT and with another SIP device already setup on my LAN (a Sipura-3000 ATA). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
If it's any additional help, internal error 1002 seems to be clearly network-related, not sound-related. http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=629 On 3/25/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/03/07, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I contacted skype about this.. but of course they didn't properly read what I said. Ah well.. at least they replied. See their reply and my original message below. Skype freezes ubuntu 6.10 completely, but for about one or two minutes, after which there is an error message in skype and then normal function returns. I've just got around to check Skype's Linux forums and it appears to be a very well known problem (TM), for a long time and with absolutely zero response from Skype. I resort to Ctrl-Q (quit)/restart Skype whenever I remember to do this so it won't happen next time someone calls me on Skype. Also when I manage to use it, almost invariably the second call on it will be very choppy until I restart skype. VERY VERY annoying but that's what we use at work and it's still the only way to communicate with Windows users through double-NAT. It seems that some other process is using ALSA (?) but what? and shouldn't ALSA be able to handle several processes? Apparently it's a Skype-specific issue, not ALSA. Does anyone else have a solution to this problem? It happens on a frequent but irregular basis.. enough to be embarrassing when I tell people how wonderful linux is. If you find any, I'll be very delighted to hear. I tried running OpenWengo but it seems to freeze on the initial settings window, and I'm not yet sure how useful it'll be through double-NAT and with another SIP device already setup on my LAN (a Sipura-3000 ATA). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:50:57 +1000 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP If you find any, I'll be very delighted to hear. I tried running OpenWengo but it seems to freeze on the initial settings window, and I'm not yet sure how useful it'll be through double-NAT and with another SIP device already setup on my LAN (a Sipura-3000 ATA). I use Ekiga connected to a Gizmo account to talk to lots of people. The Gizmo client for Windows is good - I haven't tried the Linux one for ages since Ekiga is so good. Ekiga allows you to register to multiple accounts. Alan --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] A BIOS problem.
Could anyone tell me if/how I can download a screenful of BIOS information to a USB thumbdrive, please? Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Desktop backgrounds---some information, please.
I've just loaded Fedora 6 to a laptop. I don't greatly care for the desktop backgrounds that come with it. Does anyone know of a site that has some others? Something with taste and sensitivity. Nothing involving Zealanders and sheep, for example. Any help etc. William Bennett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Desktop backgrounds---some information, please.
quote who=William Bennett I've just loaded Fedora 6 to a laptop. I don't greatly care for the desktop backgrounds that come with it. Does anyone know of a site that has some others? Something with taste and sensitivity. Nothing involving Zealanders and sheep, for example. I enjoy most of the stuff on art.gnome.org and some on gnome-look.org. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ It's weird being without white noise. - Catie Flick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Nomination: Ken Wilson for treasurer
Ok, time to get the ball rolling on the nominations front! I'd like to nominate Ken Wilson for the position of treasurer. Over the last 3 years Ken has been a fantastic treasurer, adeptly managing SLUG's finances, helping out above and beyond what was required of a committee member's duties, and providing a pragmatic and reasoned voice throughout all decision making processes. He would be a great asset to the next SLUG committee, and I heartily endorse him for this position. Lindsay -- http://slug.org.au/ (the Sydney Linux Users Group) http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/ (me) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ubuntu server
To convert a Ubuntu server to desktop, I am pretty sure the all you need is to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop which will add the virtual package (and all its dependencies. It sounds like your video chipset is causing you grief with the liveCD. In cases like this, I always use the alternate CD which is basically a desktop install cd using text-mode. Martin Visser Technology Consultant Consulting Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 410 Concord Road Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify HP immediately by return email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 March 2007 1:44 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] ubuntu server Hi The only way that I've been able to install ubuntu on my pentium-m laptop is this bizare sequence: 1) Install server on laptop After install boot fails with a register dump 2) install server on a desktop machine 3) apt-get the generic image (not the server!) 4) boot the lappie on knoppix. copy the generic kernel, initrd, modules from desktop 5) boot the lappie, install ubuntu-desktop OK nearly all good apt-get the latest generic kernel fails (mkinitramfs tools dependencies) The real problem is that despite wearing all desktop clothes the lappie 'knows' it's a server. How, where do I change the personality from server to desktop? BTW the problem is common to 6.06, 6.10 and feisty-beta In every case live CD boots, displays a screen about gnome-error (message, network ?) and there is a pretty desktop, mouse-that-moves and is unresponsive to anything else eg install (icon highlights, click does pretty much nothing. This lappy installs SuSE 10.2 without any fuss, and as a server seems to run perfectly (with the hand-crafted generic kernel, the server kernel gives a register dump) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:43 +1000, David P wrote: If it's any additional help, internal error 1002 seems to be clearly network-related, not sound-related. http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=629 So it would seem. I should have found that, sorry. However, it doesn't seem right that an application can totally freeze the entire system. No keyboard, no mouse, nothing. I can't even log in remotely until it unfreezes. That would suggest that it's more than just a skype bug, wouldn't it?? On 3/25/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/03/07, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I contacted skype about this.. but of course they didn't properly read what I said. Ah well.. at least they replied. See their reply and my original message below. Skype freezes ubuntu 6.10 completely, but for about one or two minutes, after which there is an error message in skype and then normal function returns. I've just got around to check Skype's Linux forums and it appears to be a very well known problem (TM), for a long time and with absolutely zero response from Skype. I resort to Ctrl-Q (quit)/restart Skype whenever I remember to do this so it won't happen next time someone calls me on Skype. Also when I manage to use it, almost invariably the second call on it will be very choppy until I restart skype. VERY VERY annoying but that's what we use at work and it's still the only way to communicate with Windows users through double-NAT. It seems that some other process is using ALSA (?) but what? and shouldn't ALSA be able to handle several processes? Apparently it's a Skype-specific issue, not ALSA. Does anyone else have a solution to this problem? It happens on a frequent but irregular basis.. enough to be embarrassing when I tell people how wonderful linux is. If you find any, I'll be very delighted to hear. I tried running OpenWengo but it seems to freeze on the initial settings window, and I'm not yet sure how useful it'll be through double-NAT and with another SIP device already setup on my LAN (a Sipura-3000 ATA). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Ken Wilson for treasurer
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Lindsay Holmwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, time to get the ball rolling on the nominations front! I'd like to nominate Ken Wilson for the position of treasurer. Over the last 3 years Ken has been a fantastic treasurer, adeptly managing SLUG's finances, helping out above and beyond what was required of a committee member's duties, and providing a pragmatic and reasoned voice throughout all decision making processes. He would be a great asset to the next SLUG committee, and I heartily endorse him for this position. I'd like to second Lindsay's nomination for Ken. Apart from being an able treasurer, Ken has contributed to the free software community in other ways. At linux.conf.au, for example, Ken proved to be a valuable member of the A/V Team. -- Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. - Arno Edelmann, European Business Security Product Manager, Microsoft, March 2007 pgpALejnj7h4P.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Co-located Name Server
Howard Lowndes wrote: I would be interested in ppls views on how much of a sysadmin cardinal sin is it to have your primary and secondary name servers co-located, and even more so, on the same subnet - as in /30. Don't worry, I don't do it, but I am assessing another operation. It's really silly, and a nightmare to deal with. When the site disappears the time-to-live caching counter and the time to live on the zone itself start running. Once they expire mail will start bouncing (no such domain). Most ISPs will have a secondary service for their customers, and the ISP pretty much knows the failure modes of their network and will make sure one stays up (eg, by putting it at a colocation facility). I'd really advocate people to have a simple, robust DNS design unless you are one of the dozen people in the world who deeply understand DNS. I've debugged about a dozen sites with severe DNS issues, and almost all of them sprung from people ignoring simplicity and robustness. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On 26/03/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Ekiga connected to a Gizmo account to talk to lots of people. The Gizmo client for Windows is good - I haven't tried the Linux one for ages since Ekiga is so good. Ekiga allows you to register to multiple accounts. I tried Ekiga a while ago (a year or so) and couldn't make it connect through ADSL. My Linux box is on a NAT behind that modem and I did some port-forwarding and still Ekiga never managed to connect. Are you using it behind NAT? Was there any special setup to do on the Windows/other side of the connection? (I suppose I could do lots of stuff if only the other side was more computer literate, but they totally aren't, they are on the other side of the world, and don't have anyone to support them). Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On 26/03/07, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, it doesn't seem right that an application can totally freeze the entire system. No keyboard, no mouse, nothing. I can't even log in remotely until it unfreezes. That would suggest that it's more than just a skype bug, wouldn't it?? Yes, it keeps reminding me of bad moments with Windows 98 (not that I can remember good moments with it). I get the same behaviour if I'm not careful to restart skype every now and then. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Skype freezes computer
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:18:02 +1000 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Ekiga connected to a Gizmo account to talk to lots of people. The Gizmo client for Windows is good - I haven't tried the Linux one for ages since Ekiga is so good. Ekiga allows you to register to multiple accounts. I tried Ekiga a while ago (a year or so) and couldn't make it connect through ADSL. My Linux box is on a NAT behind that modem and I did some port-forwarding and still Ekiga never managed to connect. Are you using it behind NAT? Was there any special setup to do on the Windows/other side of the connection? (I suppose I could do lots of stuff if only the other side was more computer literate, but they totally aren't, they are on the other side of the world, and don't have anyone to support them). I am behind a NAT router (Billion Bipac 5100) and it connects using the Ekiga STUN server without any port forwarding. I talk to a friend who has the same setup only with some other brand of router (forget what it is right now) through the ekiga.net network. And, as I mentioned above, I talk to Winders users through the Gizmo network. The only trouble that I have had with it is that some of the codecs don't seem to work well. I get good Gizmo connections with GSM and talk to FWD people with PCMU. For some reason, the Speex codecs have caused me grief, but I haven't tried them for some time. Alan Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Cheers, Taryn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:39:58AM +1000, Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Hey Taryn, A talk of this ilk would be fantastic! I've added your talk suggestion to the SLUG wiki at http://wiki.slug.org.au/talksuggestions. The new committee will be in contact with you to work out a time for you to give the talk. :-) Thanks! Lindsay -- http://slug.org.au/ (the Sydney Linux Users Group) http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/ (me) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? I'd be interested. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ It is capitalist America that produced the modern independent woman. Never in history have women had more freedom of choice in regard to dress, behavior, career, and sexual orientation. -- Camille Paglia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Co-located Name Server
I would be interested in ppls views on how much of a sysadmin cardinal sin is it to have your primary and secondary name servers co-located, and even more so, on the same subnet - as in /30. Don't worry, I don't do it, but I am assessing another operation. RFC2182 by Robert Elz and others. Hope this helps. O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
On 26/03/07, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? I'd be interested. AOL! AOL! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
* Taryn East ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Yes Taryn, Specifically, adding rails to apache2 sites-enabled without messing up already fragile and complex set-up. How to have different projects there. Will you be able to do a write-up if people can't get there? Great topic, thanks, N -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
+1 cheers Ken Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Cheers, Taryn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
* Nick Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Specifically, adding rails to apache2 sites-enabled without messing up already fragile and complex set-up. eep, not exactly an introductory topic ;) How to have different projects there. Not sure exactly what you're asking here. What setup do/did you have and what was the issue with different projects? Will you be able to do a write-up if people can't get there? No problem. Cheers, Taryn -- Let there be lights! http://fiatlux.webcentre.co.nz/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
Would the talk be focusing on or covering Ruby itself or mostly Rails as a system? Either would be good. Cheers, Scott Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Cheers, Taryn -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
* Scott Finneran [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Would the talk be focusing on or covering Ruby itself or mostly Rails as a system? Either would be good. Mostly rails. Good question, though. The two are almost, but not entirely, the same thing :) Taryn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Attn Friends of Anthony Rumble
Anthony has a lot of friends from SLUG and you all deserve to know that he's been stuck in Intensive care since the 17th of March. Without going into a lot of detail his symptoms are much like severe pneumonia. He's been on a respirator and under sedation until yesterday morning and for a while we were very concerned about whether he'd make it or not. He's showed significant improvement but now's the time for words of encouragement or reminders of good times from friends. If you feel like sending get well cards they can go to PO Box 6262 Silverwater, NSW 1811 or you can email me a note and I'll make sure he gets them. If you want to help in another way, we've been finding it tough here at ELX and if you want to liberate our warehouse stock that's fine too. Be sure to check it's in stock, buying stuff that isn't just wouldn't help a lot. Company worries is one thing he could do without right now. We expect him to be off work for a good few weeks at least. Finally, I appreciate whomever decides to approve this email going to the announce list. If it helps, call it a favour for the Ex-president :-) -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior LPIC-1 certified consultant Linux User #281066 at http://counter.li.org (Linux Counter) EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and elx.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs. ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
