Re: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread gobie
of the dangers and design your processing around them. Regards, Paul Gobert. - Original Message - From: Go Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:09 AM Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail There are warnings all over alt fuel

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread robert luis rabello
Go Hoff wrote: I remember buying an USA made hammer in the 70*s it was hung with labels and stuff saying to wear protective glasses, gloves, overalls etc and to keep children and pets away, not to leave it unattended and to hide it or lock it up from potential thieves - failure to do

Re:[biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread qwertymin
: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail There are warnings all over alt fuel sites about dealing with methanol because of course it is nasty poisonous stuff. I have not been experimenting with the process cuss the info on 'journey' and elsewhere scared me. However I just started re-talking

Re:[biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread Keith Addison
Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail There are warnings all over alt fuel sites about dealing with methanol because of course it is nasty poisonous stuff. I have not been experimenting with the process cuss the info on 'journey' and elsewhere scared me. Then you overreacted Go

Lost posts - was Re:[biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread Keith Addison
, March 05, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail snip Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address

Re: Re:[biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-06 Thread Tilapia
x-charset ISO-8859-1I've been trying to set up this experiment, which has not been done to date by anyone I know of. My experience is that it takes about a month of driving to get the engine noise back to full blast after using any portion of biodiesel. So if you do this, maximize the

[biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-05 Thread Go Hoff
There are warnings all over alt fuel sites about dealing with methanol because of course it is nasty poisonous stuff. I have not been experimenting with the process cuss the info on 'journey' and elsewhere scared me. However I just started re-talking to an old friend who has been driving

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Hazards - provocative mail

2004-03-05 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I remember buying an USA made hammer in the 70*s it was hung with labels and stuff saying to wear protective glasses, gloves, overalls etc and to keep children and pets away, not to leave it unattended and to hide it or lock it up from potential thieves - failure to do any of that stuff

[biofuel] methanol

2004-02-05 Thread wormmister1
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Re: [biofuel] methanol

2004-02-05 Thread Stanley Baer
You can buy methanol at Canadian Tire or TSC in 4L jugs it is labelled Methyl Hydrate. stan wormmister1 wrote: Does anyone know where to buy methanol in north eastern ontario ? thanks Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Lye mixing.

2004-01-28 Thread Ken Provost
On Tuesday, January 27, 2004, at 05:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in regards to mixing the Methanol and Lye I was wondering how far in advance can you mix it. I did an experiment just last week comparing the reaction using fresh solution versus 12-hour old solution. I noticed with

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Lye mixing.

2004-01-28 Thread Chuck Cole
We have kept it mixed for up to 30 days and seems to work OK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:58 AM Subject: [biofuel] Methanol and Lye mixing. Hi, I have a question in regards to mixing

[biofuel] Methanol and Lye mixing.

2004-01-27 Thread RGMTRUCK
Hi, I have a question in regards to mixing the Methanol and Lye. I am just doing small test batches. I was wondering how far in advance can you mix it. Can it be made ahead of time or does it have to be made and used right away. I am mixing it in a sealed container and I don't open it

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-22 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:05 AM 1/21/04 -0700, you wrote: Hey Walt, If you don't mind, I have a question. In an earlier post ( see below ), you talked about using electricity, in an organic solution, to generate H2 and CO. In the post you mention that you used sugar solution, have you tried it with

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-22 Thread Greg and April
: Re: [biofuel] Methanol No. I expect it would work, but I'd rather use something which wasn't a flammable. What I was wondering, would it be easier to convert biomass to Ethanol, then with electricity, convert the Ethanol to syngas? I can't see how. Our reason for making

PLEASE READ - was Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-21 Thread Keith Addison
mentioned in the patent. - Original Message - From: Walt Patrick To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 15:15 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol At 09:22 AM 1/19/04 -0800, Jeff wrote: I have been looking on how to make methanol out of wood. I have seen

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-20 Thread Keith Addison
I have been looking on how to make methanol out of wood. I have seen a couple of articles on how to make ethanol out of wood, but not methanol. If anybody could share some information on what would be involved and what it would take, please let me know. Jeff Hello Jeff See:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-20 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:22 AM 1/19/04 -0800, Jeff wrote: I have been looking on how to make methanol out of wood. I have seen a couple of articles on how to make ethanol out of wood, but not methanol. If anybody could share some information on what would be involved and what it would take, please let me

[biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-19 Thread Jeff
I have been looking on how to make methanol out of wood. I have seen a couple of articles on how to make ethanol out of wood, but not methanol. If anybody could share some information on what would be involved and what it would take, please let me know. Jeff [Non-text portions of this

Re: [biofuel] Methanol

2004-01-19 Thread Greg and April
No joke, if you figure out how to make good quantities of methanol at home, the rest of the world would like to know as well. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Jeff To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:22 Subject: [biofuel] Methanol I have been

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-24 Thread Maud Essen
Swearingen - Original Message - From: Maud Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation Thanks, Todd, for going to the trouble of running that test. Can I run my own tests like the one

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-24 Thread Appal Energy
. Not so sure that everyone falls into those categories of abilities though. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Maud Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation Todd

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try)

2003-12-23 Thread Appal Energy
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try) Howdy y'all, I sent this a week ago, but got no reply. Anyone have any ideas? I've been lurking about on this list and have a couple questions. I am forming

thin film evaporator for ethanol? [was - Re: [biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try)]

2003-12-23 Thread Dan Maker
Appal Energy said: A thin film evaporator coupled to a condensor is the best method of recovery. A rough verbal description can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/30463 Something like this could easily be scaled up and modularized to match volumes of production.

Re: thin film evaporator for ethanol? [was - Re: [biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try)]

2003-12-23 Thread Appal Energy
Me thinks that's a question befitting the Revenuer. - Original Message - From: Dan Maker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:25 AM Subject: thin film evaporator for ethanol? [was - Re: [biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try

[biofuel] Methanol Recovery for Beginners -(2nd try)

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Jude
Howdy y'all, I sent this a week ago, but got no reply. Anyone have any ideas? I've been lurking about on this list and have a couple questions. I am forming a biodiesel co-op at my university (Appalachian State, NC) and this spring semester I plan to build a processor. I've made several

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-19 Thread Maud Essen
Thanks, Todd, for going to the trouble of running that test. Can I run my own tests like the one you described if I can figure out how to make a condenser? Although I'm currently at the small batch (two liter-sized) processing level, I would like to develop and practice using a small

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-19 Thread Appal Energy
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation Thanks, Todd, for going to the trouble of running that test. Can I run my own tests like the one you described if I can figure out how to make a condenser? Although I'm

[biofuel] methanol source in arizona Re: New to Bio-Diesel, Need Methanol

2003-12-15 Thread skillshare
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a place to buy methanol online? I found one place, I usually look in the phone book for wholesale gas distributors and for hot rod/performance places- sometimes racecar engine builders will order a drum or

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-15 Thread Appal Energy
Maud, is the amount of methanol remaining in the methyl ester considered negligible? Is it possible to determine what percentage remains in the methyl ester and what percentage in the glycerol? Maud Just for grins and giggles and to answer part of your question, a 100 milileter sample of

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-14 Thread Keith Addison
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation Todd, is the amount of methanol remaining in the methyl ester considered negligible? Is it possible to determine what percentage remains in the methyl ester and what percentage in the glycerol

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Thomus Patton
Hello I'm a chemical engineering student working on a biodiesel production facility design project with my senior design group at NCSU. We are only in the initial stages and do not have a lot of kinetic data yet, but I would think that removing methanol would certainly be detrimental to

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Ken Provost
On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Thomus Patton wrote: I would think that removing methanol would certainly be detrimental to your yield. So would I. Most of the methanol goes into the aqueous (glycerine) layer anyway, so you can recover that portion by distilling the glyc layer

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Appal Energy
Lagonisa, The problem is that I have also read that due to the reversibility of the reaction, The reaction is not exactly reversible. Reversability would require the three glycerides and the glycerol recombining. That doesn't happen. Once the glycerol is cleaved it is out of the picture.

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Maud Essen
Todd, is the amount of methanol remaining in the methyl ester considered negligible? Is it possible to determine what percentage remains in the methyl ester and what percentage in the glycerol? Maud Lagonisa, The problem is that I have also read that due to the reversibility of the

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Keith Addison
Lagonisa, The problem is that I have also read that due to the reversibility of the reaction, The reaction is not exactly reversible. Reversability would require the three glycerides and the glycerol recombining. That doesn't happen. Once the glycerol is cleaved it is out of the picture.

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-13 Thread Appal Energy
Message - From: Maud Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation Todd, is the amount of methanol remaining in the methyl ester considered negligible? Is it possible to determine what

[biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2003-12-10 Thread lagonisa
Hello to all: I have read some contributions to this group about methanol recovery and the different options. I would like to try the recovery before separation of bio and glycerol using a condenser that would receive the methanol fumes after finishing the reaction. I have a processor were I

[biofuel] Methanol sources and pricing...

2003-12-05 Thread Mark McElvy
Just curious were you get it and how much are you paying for methanol. I have not made a batch of bio yet but was trying to look at costs. How much can I expect to use per say 50 gal batch and how much is recoverable? Also how are most people metering the methanol without pouring it out into an

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-12-02 Thread mark schofield
Hi Wet ethanol under acid conditions? Mark Download Yahoo! Messenger now for a chance to win Live At Knebworth DVDs http://www.yahoo.co.uk/robbiewilliams Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Addison said: Not with the current processes, particularly not with WVO. There is work being done on this but nothing so far. Come on Dan, not so! Nothing so far? Mark just said this, as you know (in reply to you in fact): Keith, Name me one person who regularly uses ethanol

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-12-01 Thread Dan Maker
Keith Addison said: Have you ever made BD at all Dan? No, I haven't. To answer you, in a word, no. Ah-ha! you say, I knew it! But I don't know what that's supposed to prove - nothing, I'd say, it certainly doesn't gainsay my Not so! What difference does it make if I've made it or not?

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Dan said: Tell me Keith, have you ever made BD with Ethanol, either virgin oil or WVO? I haven't. Keith Addison said: Have you ever made BD at all Dan? No, I haven't. To answer you, in a word, no. Ah-ha! you say, I knew it! But I don't know what that's supposed to prove - nothing,

[biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-11-30 Thread Edward Mendoza
Can ethanol be used just as effectively as methanol for cutting the veggie oil to make biodiesel? Thanks, Edward Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707.537.7392 211 Hayman Court Santa Rosa, CA 95409 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-11-30 Thread Dan Maker
Edward Mendoza said: Can ethanol be used just as effectively as methanol for cutting the veggie oil to make biodiesel? Not with the current processes, particularly not with WVO. There is work being done on this but nothing so far. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-11-30 Thread Keith Addison
Edward Mendoza said: Can ethanol be used just as effectively as methanol for cutting the veggie oil to make biodiesel? Not with the current processes, particularly not with WVO. There is work being done on this but nothing so far. Dan Come on Dan, not so! Nothing so far? Mark just

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Ethanol

2003-11-30 Thread Dan Maker
Keith Addison said: Not with the current processes, particularly not with WVO. There is work being done on this but nothing so far. Come on Dan, not so! Nothing so far? Mark just said this, as you know (in reply to you in fact): Keith, Name me one person who regularly uses ethanol and

[biofuel] methanol, by-products, and EPA regulations

2003-11-23 Thread Aaron F. Wieler
I heard from the environmental health and safety officer at my college that the EPA (USA) is not pleased about people making their own biodiesel with methanol because it is a regulated chemical by the EPA, as an atmospheric pollutant. Uh oh. She said the EPA would go after biodiesel home-brewers

[biofuel] Methanol Source

2003-11-11 Thread Bill Hassoldt
Eric, To find a source of methanol in your area, you might try to locate some area stock car/go-cart racers. They often have volume quantities of methanol for use in their race cars and you can purchase fuel from them at about the prices quoted earlier. I pay $2.75 /gal here in small

RE: [biofuel] Methanol in the UK

2003-09-17 Thread mark schofield
Hi I can buy methanol for 50p per L, where are you buying it from? Mark Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk Yahoo!

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-14 Thread Alex
Ethan, thank you very much! Very nice to know somebody near by! I will contact you off list - I'm actually near by, in R.H. Alex - Original Message - From: Ethan Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] methanol

RE: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-13 Thread Ethan Vos
deliver to a residential address though. Ethan -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:12 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol Just want to experiment in making my first batch - getting ready for getting self

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-12 Thread Alex
Great, will try Home Hardware! People in Can. Tire were not very helpful. Alex - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol In small quantities, try Canadian Tire (look

RE: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-12 Thread Ethan Vos
What quantities do you need? Where in Ontario? Ethan -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:13 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol Where do I buy methanol in Ontario ? Alex Biofuel at Journey

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-12 Thread Alex
Subject: RE: [biofuel] methanol What quantities do you need? Where in Ontario? Ethan -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:13 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol Where do I buy methanol in Ontario

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-09-12 Thread Darryl McMahon
In small quantities, try Canadian Tire (look for methyl hydrate in paint section). I have heard you can find it cheaper at Home Hardware stores, but I have not confirmed this in person. For larger quantities (thousands of litres per month), contact Recochem. I have also heard that a company

[biofuel] methanol in dry gas

2003-09-04 Thread simonswb6
According to to Alecs article, it is important to get the highest purity chemicals, specifically the sulfuric acid (at least 95%) and Methanol (99%). I would like to do some test batches, and was wondering if the methanol used in dry gas would be good enough? ... any idea what the purity is

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Ethanol for Micro Fuel Cells in Laptops

2003-09-03 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, Whenever you have a new technology, it takes many years to develop to general implementation. One thing that often delays many technologies is patent rights and subsequent licences. It is often that you see 25 years between the product invention and general implementation. That is one of

[biofuel] Methanol and Ethanol for Micro Fuel Cells in Laptops

2003-09-02 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=569ncid=1211e=1u=/nm/20030902/tc_nm/column_pluggedin_dc One question is whether it's really necessary to have all these regulatory and logistical hurdles to overcome for methanol, or whether ethanol could be used as well, if it were not for

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Ethanol for Micro Fuel Cells in Laptops

2003-09-02 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, It is still several years off for fuel cells being a practical solution for standard notebooks, Dell (Nasdaq:DELL - news) spokesman Jess Blackburn said, a view echoed by IBM as well. According to the Bush administration, it seems to be closer to use in freedom cars with hydrogen?

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-08-30 Thread Brent S
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:46:33 +0900 carreragt41991 wrote: Hi, I'm interested where in Ontario, Canada I can get cheap methanol, (I live in London). I need it to make bio-diesel. In Canadian Tire the price of a galon of methol hydrate

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-08-29 Thread Stanley Baer
Try TSC stores, I found their price for methanol a bit cheaper. stan carreragt41991 wrote: Hi, I'm interested where in Ontario, Canada I can get cheap methanol, (I live in London). I need it to make bio-diesel. In Canadian Tire the price of a galon of methol hydrate is $7.85 plus tax.

[biofuel] methanol

2003-08-28 Thread carreragt41991
Hi, I'm interested where in Ontario, Canada I can get cheap methanol, (I live in London). I need it to make bio-diesel. In Canadian Tire the price of a galon of methol hydrate is $7.85 plus tax. Thanx Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges

Re: [biofuel] methanol

2003-08-28 Thread Keith Addison
carreragt41991 wrote: Hi, I'm interested where in Ontario, Canada I can get cheap methanol, (I live in London). I need it to make bio-diesel. In Canadian Tire the price of a galon of methol hydrate is $7.85 plus tax. Thanx Methanex -- one of the largest suppliers in the world. Sales inquiries

[biofuel] Methanol

2003-08-22 Thread JHP31
I have located a source for methanol but they offer two types. They cost the same. They are methanol (absolate reagent ASC), and methanol (absolute simi grade). Which is used for WVO processing? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or

[biofuel] Methanol in the UK

2003-08-18 Thread chphillips2003
Hi all, Can anyone recommend to me a cheap source of methanol in the UK? I live in West Wales and can't find a single source. My reactor is built, sodium hydroxide is standing by and my WVO reserve is about to over flow! Just need the methanol. Can anyone help? Chris

RE: [biofuel] Methanol in the UK

2003-08-18 Thread nickrobinson
Hi Chris I have a nearly full drum of methanol (about 150 ltrs). My Mercedes runs on WVO now so I make hardly any BD- Mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want all or some at 80p ltr. My problem is getting the WVO- perhaps we could trade? I am near Derby Nick chphillips2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Dehydration CaO

2003-07-04 Thread mark schofield
Nope, as far as I have read methanol also forms an azeotrope. Mark Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups

[biofuel] Methanol Dehydration CaO

2003-06-18 Thread mark schofield
Hi, Just a passing thought. Vacuum recovered methanol at 50mBar boils at around 15-20'C. The water content ought to be quite low but methanol forms an azeotrope with water. Therefore, if the recovered methanol were mixed with CaO (quick lime) to remove the water content the soap producing

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Dehydration CaO

2003-06-18 Thread Ken Provost
on 6/18/03 1:48 AM, mark schofield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a passing thought. Vacuum recovered methanol at 50mBar boils at around 15-20'C. The water content ought to be quite low but methanol forms an azeotrope with water. Therefore, if the recovered methanol were mixed with

[biofuel] methanol recovery again/detroit 671

2003-06-07 Thread bowlcole
Still havent' heard from anyone about methanol recovery. I am not a federal agent. SOmeone scolded me for using a vac pump from a freezer, to much of a risk? is there a way those can spark? Also does anyone knowthe hard facts about how much meth can be recovered? Would love to hear

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery again/detroit 671

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Addison
bowlcole wrote: Still havent' heard from anyone about methanol recovery. Huh? You had four responses, including one from me, plus a couple more questions. Not much use asking if you don't bother to check for answers, is it? There's also been other discussion since then on methanol recovery,

Re[2]: [biofuel] methanol recovery again/detroit 671

2003-06-07 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Keith, Saturday, 07 June, 2003, 08:35:54, you wrote: KA bowlcole wrote: Still havent' heard from anyone about methanol recovery. KA Huh? You had four responses, including one from me, plus a couple KA more questions. Not much use asking if you don't bother to check for KA answers, is

Re[2]: [biofuel] methanol recovery again/detroit 671

2003-06-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Gustl Happy Happy, As ever! Well, almost... Hallo Keith, Saturday, 07 June, 2003, 08:35:54, you wrote: KA bowlcole wrote: Still havent' heard from anyone about methanol recovery. KA Huh? You had four responses, including one from me, plus a couple KA more questions. Not much use

Re: [biofuel] Methanol quality

2003-05-28 Thread mustangsqd
I'm in Miami.FL, but the source is in Tampa - I'll get the name ( it's at work) and forward to you. Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's

[biofuel] Methanol quality

2003-05-27 Thread mustangsqd
Hi! Can anyone tell me what purity of methanol I have to use to make biodiesel? I have a local supplier that will sell by the drum for 1.90 / gal. and claims it is 97 % + pure. Is this good enough? - The local racing feul suppliers want $ 4.75 /gal ! Thanks! Ed [Non-text portions of this

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery

2003-05-27 Thread Keith Addison
When recovering the methanol, do you heat the whole batch after it settles, or heat each part sepparately (biodiesel and glycerine)? Brent Sorry Brent, you didn't get a response to this: Different schools of thought on this. Some people just heat the whole thing up a bit more after the

Re: [biofuel] Methanol quality

2003-05-27 Thread Ed Hall
Ed, Where are you located and who are you buying from? 1.90/gal, I'd be interested in a drum at that price. Thanks, Ed in San Diego. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Methanol quality Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:28:32 EDT

[biofuel] methanol recovery

2003-05-23 Thread Brent
When recovering the methanol, do you heat the whole batch after it settles, or heat each part sepparately (biodiesel and glycerine)? Brent Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.

Re: [biofuel] methanol pricing

2003-05-09 Thread mark schofield
Hi Racing Methanol in the UK is about £3 a gallon (4.54L). Mark = Mark Schofield M.Sc B.Eng DHE AMIMechE t 07944 401662 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autogas Conversions and LPG Pumps __ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience

Re: [biofuel] methanol pricing

2003-05-09 Thread Dan Ross
www.islandschool.org - Original Message - From: brent3369 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: [biofuel] methanol pricing What price is everyone here paying for methanol? I'm looking for Canadian sourses in western Canada. I pay $30/20l pail

[biofuel] methanol pricing

2003-05-08 Thread brent3369
What price is everyone here paying for methanol? I'm looking for Canadian sourses in western Canada. I pay $30/20l pail here in Yorkton Sask. Can't seem to find larger quantities. Brent Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500

Re: [biofuel] methanol pricing

2003-05-08 Thread Jack Kenworthy
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: [biofuel] methanol pricing What price is everyone here paying for methanol? I'm looking for Canadian sourses in western Canada. I pay $30/20l pail here in Yorkton Sask. Can't seem to find larger quantities. Brent

Re: [biofuel] methanol pricing

2003-05-08 Thread Jack Kenworthy
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: [biofuel] methanol pricing What price is everyone here paying for methanol? I'm looking for Canadian sourses in western Canada. I pay $30/20l pail here in Yorkton Sask. Can't seem to find larger quantities. Brent

RE: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-05-02 Thread Mark Schofield
Hi So what temperature do you operate the still at? Mark, England -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2003 16:24 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone I'm about 100 gallons

Fwd: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposedly, Terry Wilhelm wrote; Talk to the guys at The Revenoor Co. They build stills from 5 to 1,000 gallon capacity and larger. They also build a recycling still to recover acetones, thinners and the likes. Making your

Fwd: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello KenSince I dont know you personally and to my knowledge we have not talked to each other I was wondering just what this Email to the world ment.I do read all the Emails that come in and have responded to a few in the

Fwd: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry wrote: Hello KenSince I dont know you personally and to my knowledge we have not talked to each other I was wondering just what this Email to the world ment.I do read all the Emails that come in and have responded to a

Fwd: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about 100 gallons into this home brew game and quite addicted. But there's the environmental issue tht I hear many of y'all turning over, methanol is pretty nasty, ethanol a bit more friendly. I have been told

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Production

2003-04-23 Thread Icarus Solem
Hello, I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck. I've been discussing the possibility of a small-scale plant that produced both biodiesel and ethanol, using agricultural raw materials (we are lucky in California - lots of

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Production

2003-04-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Karus, Bryan Hello, I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck. There's quite a lot of info in the archives, and more here: Ethyl-esters biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html#ethylester I've been

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Production

2003-04-23 Thread Jeffery Dodson
of the vapor. (A still will only make 95% pure alcohol and you will need 100% to make biodesiel) -Original Message- From: Bryan Brah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:16 -0500 Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Production Since it is so difficult to make

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Production

2003-04-23 Thread martin
Keith, I too found information on the process of creating methanol from syn-gas (CO, CO2, H2): http://www.methanex.com/emergingenergy/syngasfactory.htm Although I could not find out how the natural gas is transformed into the syngas, I did find some information on destructive distillation:

[biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-23 Thread bowlcole
I'm about 100 gallons into this home brew game and quite addicted. But there's the environmental issue tht I hear many of y'all turning over, methanol is pretty nasty, ethanol a bit more friendly. I have been told that I can recover almost all of the methanol. is this right.

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone

2003-04-23 Thread Terry Wilhelm
Talk to the guys at The Revenoor Co. They build stills from 5 to 1,000 gallon capacity and larger. They also build a recycling still to recover acetones, thinners and the likes. Making your own ethanol is very easy, legal and fun.www.revenoor.com503.662.4173 bowlcole [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] Methanol Production

2003-04-22 Thread Bryan Brah
Since it is so difficult to make BioDiesel with ethanol, how hard would it be to make methanol at home? I know that methanol is a by-product of ethanol distillation of fruits containing high concentrations of pectin, is there a way to exploit this fact and make just methanol? -BRAH

[biofuel] Methanol supplier in Las Vegas

2003-02-25 Thread llkona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am wondering if anyone knows of a supplier of methanol in southern Nevada. The only supply I have found so far is Haycock Petroleum and they get $3.18/gallon if you buy a 54 gallon drum. Any help for a reasonably priced supply would be appreciated. Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol supplier in Las Vegas

2003-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
llkona wrote: I am wondering if anyone knows of a supplier of methanol in southern Nevada. The only supply I have found so far is Haycock Petroleum and they get $3.18/gallon if you buy a 54 gallon drum. Any help for a reasonably priced supply would be appreciated. See:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol in Australia.

2003-02-19 Thread Doug Foskey
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:38, you wrote: Hi Guys, Best Biodiesel site I have seen on the net. I am about to trial my fist batch of BD, but was surprised by the cost of methanol in AUS. As I am starting small, I am going to purchase a 20 litre drum of methanol. I was surprised it cost AUS$46

[biofuel] Methanol in Australia.

2003-02-17 Thread Brad Teske
Hi Guys, Best Biodiesel site I have seen on the net. I am about to trial my fist batch of BD, but was surprised by the cost of methanol in AUS. As I am starting small, I am going to purchase a 20 litre drum of methanol. I was surprised it cost AUS$46 for 20L. To make DB with 20% meth does not

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