[Biofuel] solar tracker circuit - part 1

2005-06-29 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
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RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Tony DeCarmine
Greetings, All - The loss of the PNGV links at NREL is no surprise. The Feds are deleting online files by the gross. Anything that makes them out for what they are is going, going... Gone. Keith - If you still have the old links, I suppose I could play with the 'wayback machine' and see if

Re: [Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Recovering exhaust and coolant heat tends to be complicated and expensive. It's best not to lose it in the first place, but there are practical limits. I was curious about using vegetable oil as the engine lubricant as well. Apparently it has been looked at and the lubricity is great but

Re: [Biofuel] BD process question

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Joe Hi Keith See my answers below; Keith Addison wrote: Hello Joe Hello, I have a question about biodiesel processing I hope someone can help me with; I read the excellent info on the journey to forever site and checked the archives about washing etc. I am interested in using

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chris sorry, i forgot who originally wrote this in reply response to my earlier statement, but i have to echo k's comment. what you refer to is the 'social contract', as many historians like to call it, which formed the basis of feudalism. serfs were bound to their lords, as you say.

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tony Greetings, All - The loss of the PNGV links at NREL is no surprise. Not really, no. The Feds are deleting online files by the gross. Anything that makes them out for what they are is going, going... Gone. Keith - If you still have the old links, I suppose I could play with

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
I do agree, though, that that was a heck of an expensive program for the U.S. taxpayer. I'm sorry, but I have to comment on what's being said here. Basically, the American tax dollar is begrudgingly given to help with cleaning up our environment to the tune of 210 million (ever

[Biofuel] Chemical use with organic farming.

2005-06-29 Thread michael hicks
Had a discusion this morning with a fellow gardener about the use of chemicals in organic gardening. I said i don't use chemicals asi garden using organic principles. He said Organic farmers use loads of chemicals otherwise they would never get a good crop and would lose most to slugs and fungus

Re: [Biofuel] Freedom from oil?

2005-06-29 Thread des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy day List! I just received that link www.freedomfromoil.com/ http://www.freedomfromoil.com/ and I support their effort. Pass it on! Declare your independance from oil! Felix I've looked around their site, and don't see a proposal on how this is to be

Re: [Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-29 Thread des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, there are about 20,000 BTUs in a pound of gasoline, about 6 pounds to the U.S. gallon. A high school physics text and Marks' Handbook for Engineers (in the reference section of most larger libraries) will contain a lot of the information you might need. A text on

RE: [Biofuel] magnetic stir bars.

2005-06-29 Thread Tom Irwin
Dear Skapegoat, You're probably going to have difficulty scaling up to 5 gallons using magnetic stir bars. The largest bars I have used are only 6.3 cm(2.5 inches). They can stir a liter or 2 reasonable well but 10 times that volume I have my doubts if it will mix well enough. You would have

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical use with organic farming.

2005-06-29 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Myke, In this area some of the organic farmers use dilute biodegradeable soap. One fellow who farms using horses uses the same tanks that carry the *-cides chemicals but uses the dilute soap. He does this so he won't have to listen to the chemical farmers. He is tired of

Re: [Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Doug, If you look at VW 1 L and make a one person car with top speed 55 mph in line with that concept, you could probably make 0.6 L experiment car , near 500 mpg. This if you still could claim that it is a car and not a covered moped. After all, WV 1 L with one person, did in road tests

Re: [Biofuel] Mystery logo

2005-06-29 Thread John Hayes
It means more information is available in the manual. r wrote: I saw a few logos stamped on the inside of the gas tank fuel door of my vehicle, a 2003 Dodge Caravan SE. One of them, I found out is E85, the symbol for ethanol 85. Another symbol, which is a mystery to me, represents the

Re: [Biofuel] magnetic stir bars.

2005-06-29 Thread Joe Street
I have been working along the same exact line of thinking. Tom is probably right about stiring 5 gal of oil with a bar magnet. However where a magnetic stirrer really shines is in mixing methoxide. Stirring bars work great so long as they are confined to the area of the rotating magnetic

RE: [Biofuel] magnetic stir bars.

2005-06-29 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello. Once I did have this same idea but I did not find the materials and the electric engine and the electronic control but other people have done the commercial way for special purposes for laboratory equipment, you could try a Lab equipment supplier like: www.coleparmer.com Cole-Parmer's

Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars

2005-06-29 Thread MH
This might be interesting if the effects of gravity could be reduced or other technological developments implemented -- The VW 1L fuel economy is one litre per 100 kilometres or about 235 miles per US gallon in 2002 and I don't know what the average speed was. 290 kilogram (639 lb.)

Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars

2005-06-29 Thread Joe Street
I can tell you now you will have a lot of trouble from the ASPG if you propose this idea. See here: http://www.pugbus.net/News/05032005_joliegravity.htm Apparently Angelina Jolie has taken up the torch as spokesperson for the movement to conserve gravity. Like Jolie many of us here on the list

Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars

2005-06-29 Thread Hakan Falk
I read at one of the links that you gave earlier, that they went on highway to a show. At average speed around 70 kmph and one person, the consumption was 0.89 l per 100 km, 1.35 l per 100 miles or 281 mpg. If you trim the weight and with a lower average speed, it should be possible to make a

[Biofuel] Gravity -was: fuel efficient cars

2005-06-29 Thread MH
With these vehicles conservation will be increased while reclining. 8^D Joe Street wrote: I can tell you now you will have a lot of trouble from the ASPG if you propose this idea. See here: http://www.pugbus.net/News/05032005_joliegravity.htm Apparently Angelina Jolie has taken up the

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Mel Riser
Title: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel you can always try the wayback internet time machine. I'm always AMAZED at what it remembers. if it was publicly available, and in a search engine, chances are it is in the time machine http://www.archive.org/web/web.php -Original Message-

[Biofuel] heating the wash

2005-06-29 Thread Brent S
I noticed on my last batch, that if I heat the was prosess up a bit, that it seems to work better(no white deposits). Is this a good way to do it? My wash water comes staight out of the well and is very cold. Brent 6.2 diesel ___ Biofuel mailing

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Bill Vaughn
Mean while the Japanese figured out how to make hybrids at a prices to sell to the American public. Seems there is a line waiting for the hybrids now because of the souring gas prices. Again the big three are slow to answer to the American public and their sinking sales prove once again they

[Biofuel] Vegetable Motor Oil (was: maximum MPG)

2005-06-29 Thread John Morris
I was curious about using vegetable oil as the engine lubricant as well. Apparently it has been looked at and the lubricity is great but the oil breaks down quickly at high temperatures. There are good vegetable oil engine lubricants, especially in Europe. Try these:

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
I'm not sure what the average price of gas (aka petrol) is in the US, in Ireland it has just passed the Euro mark per litre - that's USD5.44 a gallon and in England its about 90p per litre - that's USD8.17 a gallon. Perhaps this kind of price in the US will be enough to get people's attention

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical use with organic farming.

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Myke Had a discusion this morning with a fellow gardener about the use of chemicals in organic gardening. I said i don't use chemicals as i garden using organic principles. He said Organic farmers use loads of chemicals otherwise they would never get a good crop and would lose most to

Re: [Biofuel] Vegetable Motor Oil (was: maximum MPG)

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello John I was curious about using vegetable oil as the engine lubricant as well. Apparently it has been looked at and the lubricity is great but the oil breaks down quickly at high temperatures. There are good vegetable oil engine lubricants, especially in Europe. Try these:

[Biofuel] Re: max mpg of vehicle

2005-06-29 Thread The Naib
this car currently hold the record for max fuel efficiency http://www.physorg.com/news4788.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
Yes but there is the issue of Battery life and cost. The batteries are warranted for 8-10 year or 80K/100K miles. Prorated - Who knows. There cost is in the $7000 bracket. So lets see, My Toyota Camry 1985 has 321K miles no rebuilds. I will admit it is near death. It get 27 odd MPG. 31 on

[Biofuel] strange observation re mileage

2005-06-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
I was driving my daughters new 1 ton Ford on a trip and was averaging 18.2 mpg. Then I encountered rain and mileage fell to about 12.5. Apparently something must be changed by the computer. Kirk Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

Re: [Biofuel] heating the wash

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Brent I noticed on my last batch, that if I heat the was prosess up a bit, that it seems to work better(no white deposits). Is this a good way to do it? My wash water comes staight out of the well and is very cold. It's a good way to do it, heat the process or use hot water, it

RE: [Biofuel] magnetic stir bars.

2005-06-29 Thread the skapegoat
Thanks. I was going to attempt to make my own. Regular stir plates cost more than I am willing to spend. I'm thinking now it will just be easier to make a stirrer from a drill and perhaps if I scale up later I'll try to make a stir plate for mixing up methoxide.Juan Boveda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] strange observation re mileage

2005-06-29 Thread Chris
Water is heavy and sticks to the car and fills divets in the bed of the truck (adding weight), plus the rain hitting the car makes it have to work harder to maintain speed, and on top of all that the water on the ground means your tires have you be turned with more force to get through it.

Re: [Biofuel] magnetic stir bars.

2005-06-29 Thread the skapegoat
I was thinking of attaching a permanent magnet to an the rotating part of an old juicer. I still want to try it just to see if I can make it work, but I think I will try something a bit more straightforward first...Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been working along the same exact line

RE: [Biofuel] strange observation re mileage

2005-06-29 Thread RobT
Lots of standing water on the road? It's hard for the computer to change things _that_ much. Or was that 12.5 indicated by the trip computer over a short time? -- Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Wednesday, June

[Biofuel] Making the World Sustainable

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
True costs of industrial food production system 1 000 tonnes of water are consumed to produce one tonne of grain [13] 10 energy units are spent for every energy unit of food on our dinner table [14, 15] Up to 1 000 energy units are used for every energy unit of processed food [16] 17% of the

Re: [Biofuel] strange observation re mileage

2005-06-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Didn't slow, used cruise control. The truck gets 12.5 mpg towing a 24 foot steel Titan with 6 horses on board so I don't think the water matched that. I perceive it as mixture must change. Some sensor and computer thing. KirkChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Water is heavy and sticks to the car

RE: [Biofuel] strange observation re mileage

2005-06-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
When I saw my average mpg falling I reset the trip computer.The 12.5 was where it averaged.Next day I got 18+ on the same road. Road is crowned well, no standing water. Wasn't a trip computer error either as verified at fillup. Took the gallonage computer said it would. Very strange Kirk RobT

[Biofuel] Truth in Journalism and the Washington Post

2005-06-29 Thread Michael Redler
June 29, 2005Manufacturing SupportHow the Washington Post Lied about Its Own War PollBy MIKE SCHAEFERIn a deceitful boost to Bush on the morning of hisIraq address, the Washington Post and ABC Newsreleased a poll of U.S. public opinion on Iraq. Butthe Post's numbers in their print version (in the

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel as a rural community development project in Mozambique

2005-06-29 Thread capt3d
hello, alexis. you may have received numerous replies already, but just want to point out that the optimum temperature range for fermentation is roughly between 50 and 70 degrees fahrenheit. efficiency drops off as you get further out of that range. something to be taken into account when

Re: [Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-29 Thread capt3d
For a perfect vehicle with no friction or air resistance losses at 100% efficiency it would probably run forever. LOL! a vehicle like that, who would need an engine? you could drive it flintsones-style! -chris ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

2005-06-29 Thread r
I think that the commercial interest behind the government keep trying to prevent people, consumers from getting together to compare notes, form consumer spending strategies, etc. As they say, "in union is strength ". I think that if major corporations could have their way, the Internet would

Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars

2005-06-29 Thread MH
Hi Hakan, I was thinking of all the motorcycles I see and with some imagination and checking in with the department of motor vehicles one could build a two seater something like the VW 1L but with 3 wheels and possibly register it as a motorcycle though I haven't thought about this in

[Biofuel] US oil war game

2005-06-29 Thread MH
Outcome Grim at Oil War Game Former Officials Fail to Prevent Recession in Mock Energy Crisis By John Mintz Washington Post Staff WriterFriday, June 24, 2005; Page A19 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005062301896.html The United States would be all but