Re: [biofuels-biz] reducing ffa's

2003-08-12 Thread Michael Allen
! CaO + 2HOOC-R = RCOO-Ca-OOCR + H2O. So sadly, while you may temporarily dehydrate the oil with quicklime, you will also react with it to get a grease with water emulsified into it. I think I'll stick with sodium hydroxide for now! Regards Michael Allen Thailand On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:05:49

Re: [biofuels-biz] We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-11 Thread Michael Allen
Thanks Keith, Lest We Forget . . . Michael Allen Thailand On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:52:51 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've talked about the CIA coup against Mossadegh in Iran here several times, and drawn much the same conclusions. I'm glad it's getting a bit more

Re: [biofuels-biz] reducing ffa's

2003-08-11 Thread Michael Allen
thought!) Hope this is some help Michael Allen Thailand On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 03:01:07 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a pH meter ( visual) methods during our titration to determine the ffa%. It is very frustrating since the pH meter readings are very inconsistant. Our current ffa

Re: [biofuels-biz] Catalysts don't participate?

2003-08-06 Thread Michael Allen
: Are you perhaps suggesting that potassium methoxide and sodium methoxide can produce a different range of esters from the same oil? As I said, I have no experience with the use of potassium hydroxide so your observations would be most welcome. Michael Allen Thailand On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:16

[biofuels-biz] Something acid + biodiesel = FFA + methyl something

2003-08-06 Thread Michael Allen
weight -- acetic, propionic, butyric etc. This is all off the top of my head Keith! Absolutely no references to hand! Perhaps Marc and Todd could add something . . . . . . Regards Michael Allen Thailand ps Keith! KOH/NaOH=56.1/40 = 1.4025. Close enough to 1.40274 I reckon! snip -- Using M2

Re: [biofuels-biz] Foolproof process

2003-07-29 Thread Michael Allen
wait for your answer, thanks. And I await yours Michael Allen Thailand -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark

Re: [biofuels-biz] The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work.

2003-07-11 Thread Michael Allen
! Incidentally, re your 1 in 10, has any professional scientist or engineer at any of the US space agencies ever gone on record to say hydrogen *does not* leave our atmosphere in the general direction of up? Regards Michael Allen Thailand Interesting responses, thx. On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:19:53 +0700

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut Crazy

2003-07-11 Thread Michael Allen
) and filtration to produce a food-grade palm-oil. Regards Michael Allen Thailand On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:21:42 -0700, Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael: In regard to: Incidentally, there is no great secret in the Neoterics claim: You can run diesel engines directly

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut Crazy

2003-07-11 Thread Michael Allen
participate, non-equals only help or adhere or accept. Yea, verily... but it's difficult for Westerners not to be patronizing. Difficult but not impossible. regards Keith Let me know, on-line or offline, if i can be any further help. Regards Michael Allen Thailand Michael et al

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut Crazy

2003-07-09 Thread Michael Allen
not all development options can be expressed in terms of dollar equivalent. Your experience may be different. I hope we can find time to discuss our differing perceptions. Regards Michael Allen Thailand -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2

Re: [biofuels-biz] The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work.

2003-07-08 Thread Michael Allen
pressure hydrogen in a fuel tank within it somewhere. Sorry about the delay Michael Allen Thailand On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:10:37 -0700, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:44:52 +0700, you wrote: Dear Hakan, Your summary of hydrogen production technology is, IMO, spot

Re: [biofuels-biz] Foolproof process

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Allen
more about the composition of the oil being used. I hope this answers most of your questions. Selemat Michael Allen Thailand On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:02:28 +0800, Simon Franky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut Crazy

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Allen
Michael Allen Thailand Michael et al, Thank you for all the good information you have provided to my request. I'm still learning how this yahoo system works (replies to all; replies to group or what). I grew up in Samoa and periodically return to the various islands I know down that way

Re: [biofuels-biz] Coconut Crazy

2003-07-06 Thread Michael Allen
to produce more nuts more quickly than those found in Samoa, Fiji or the Cook Islands. And they are much shorter! Please keep us in touch with your conclusions. Michael Allen Thailand On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 06:02:42 -, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is for Michael Allen: I am

Re: [biofuels-biz] Energy Bill Bankrupts Our Future

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Allen
I would imagine that a belief in the imminent arrival of the Armageddon negates most of the arguments put forward in this article . . . . Is the US Energy policy now perhaps formulated by Fundmentalist Christians who actually believe that the Second Coming Is Nigh?. Who precisely do they

Re: [biofuels-biz] Foolproof process

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Allen
and health enhancement). 7) Which alcohol are you using? I presume it is methanol but it would help to get this clarified. Look forward to hearing from you Michael Allen Thailand On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 21:32:11 +0800, Simon Franky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, my name is franky from

Re: [biofuels-biz] diester oil

2003-06-30 Thread Michael Allen
Thanks Winny. Just goes to show that you can't leave a perfectly good generic chemical name kicking around without someone registering it as a trade name! Diester oil is a commercial name for biodiesel. It is a german company WDS -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Levent Yuceer

Re: [biofuels-biz] The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work.

2003-06-29 Thread Michael Allen
) and liquid propane gas (LPG) as transport fuels. Hydrogen is in an entirely different league. And then, of course, there is hydrogen embrittlement . . . . . . Regards Michael Allen On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:09:01 +0200, Hakan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is some more thought provoking parts in my

Re: [biofuels-biz] Props Conversions

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Allen
at it, 1) 5000 US tons a year would be about 500 drums a week and 2) The SI system of units has much to commend it. Regards Michael Allen Although I have earnestly read each article to pass through biofuels-biz, this is my first post; SO, I'd like to quickly thank everyone for contributing

Re: [biofuels-biz] diester oil

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Allen
with it. One consequence is that you would probably get fewer kilometres to the litre. Another is that it would probably be cleaner burning (depending a bit on what else is attached to that carbon chain). Regards Michael Allen On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:48:56 +0300, Levent Yceer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [biofuels-biz] Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines: Comparative Testing

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Marc, Good idea! I think young Keith is putting it onto journeytoforever. Regards Michael Allen On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:21:57 +0800, Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to post this report to the Files area of the group? It would save emailing it to every

[biofuels-biz] Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines: Comparative Testing against Diesel Oil

2003-05-09 Thread Michael Allen
the paper on the trials with refined palm oil has now been published by ny colleague Gumpon Prateepchaikul and I am pleased to attach a copy (in English) for those interested in comparitive tests against petro-diesel. Regards Michael Allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed

Re: [biofuels-biz] questions from New Zealand

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Allen
Natural Gas (CNG) is still used in NZ by quite a large number, I would expect your friendly pig farmer to use methane as a fuel rather than biodiesel. But, whatever he decides, the technology he needs is already available locally. Regards Michael Allen 18/03/03 19:06:52, Chanti Smith [EMAIL

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Reactor for Biodiesel!

2003-03-01 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Gann, Your e-mail is addressed to Keith but I can probably answer some of your questions: Thanks Keith for your information, in fact I already got a copy of that. By that you mean the paper by D. Darnoko and Munir Cheryan, I think? Anyway, just another few questions, during the

Re: [biofuels-biz] details about mixing pump

2003-03-01 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Murilo, Conventional corrosion needs a freely ionisable solvent such as water for attack to take place. There is some water in methanol and in vegetable oil but it is dissolved and not ionised. (Try measuring the pH to see what I mean!) As a consequence, pumps handling methanol and

Re: [biofuels-biz] skin on biodiesel

2002-12-15 Thread Michael Allen
a few facts to muck up a perfectly good theory! : - ) Michael Allen 12/12/02 00:39:00, rpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, have noticed that raw biodiesel from tallow readily forms a skin as it cools, but the same BD after washing does not. Paul Gobert. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http

[biofuels-biz] Things Therrmodynamic

2002-12-15 Thread Michael Allen
will ferment. In effect, they let botany do most of the synthesis from CO2, water and O2 for them using widely available sun-power. Perhaps we should simply give up motoring and take up mellow drinking. It's much easier technologically. : - ) Entropy Rules OK? [_]? [_]? [_]? Michael Allen

Re: [biofuels-biz] skin on biodiesel

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Allen
Michael Allen 11/12/02 01:21:31, goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Allen's question: What makes you so sure it is methyl stearate? Do you have a reference for this perhaps? This conclusion is one of my own drawn through my own experiences with making biodiesel from waste oil

Re: [biofuels-biz] Enzymic Production Methods

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Allen
on the enzymatic process. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope that helps Regards Michael Allen 11/12/02 19:33:18, Wendell Wait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of any BD being produced using lipase type enzymes that are bacterial/plant derived? I came across a Russian

Re: [biofuels-biz] biofuels-homebrew problems

2002-12-09 Thread Michael Allen
. Do you wish me to send it again? Michael Allen currently in New Zealand 6/12/02 07:04:29, goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Wendell, The skin that you are talking about is a common occurence with WVO. It is wax which forms in contact with cold air above

[biofuels-biz] Vanitas! Vanitatum! Et omnia vanitas!

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Allen
something other than just my assertions to quote. And I'm still trying to keep up with all this biofuels-biz! I had over 120 of these merry missives awaiting me when I logged on again last week! What a serious and prolific lot you are. Regards Michael Allen New Zealand 30/11/02 19:34:18, Keith

Re: [biofuels-biz] speedy separation on a large scale

2002-12-01 Thread Michael Allen
may be able to come up with some further suggestions Best wishes Michael Allen Process Engineer New Zealand 2/12/02 05:30:09, Craig Pech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking into a more high tech approach - above ground swimming pools. They price out at $1300 for a 7500 gallon pool. We

Re: [biofuels-biz] Dept. Weights Measures decommissioning B100 pumps!

2002-10-19 Thread Michael Allen
of luck Michael Allen Thailand --- movember [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 17th October, an official from the Govt. Department of Weights Measures visited a SAFF service station in Adelaide, South Australia, and decommissioned its B100 Biodiesel pump. This SAFF service station

Re: [biofuels-biz] Foolproof method vs Canakci/Van Gerpen (high FFA)

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Allen
place to start with esterification-transesterification reactions ! A BIG thank-you! Regards Michael Allen Thailand --- movember [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Paddy for forwarding me the Canakci/Van Gerpen study Biodiesel production from Oils and Fats with High Free Fatty Acids

[biofuels-biz] Straighter-than-straight vegetable oils as diesel fuels

2002-10-08 Thread Michael Allen
obliging in this respect but I can assure anyone interested that you will be unable to back up your ute to a palm-tree for refuelling in at least the next couple of years. But I also want to assure you that, even as we speak, we are working on it! Michael Allen Thailand --- Keith Addison

Re: [biofuels-biz] Straighter-than-straight vegetable oils as diesel fuels

2002-10-08 Thread Michael Allen
the situation is clearer. Regards Michael Allen Thailand --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Michael Allen, I read your very interesting report of using plant oil in mobile diesel engines. I am interested to post your report with some photos in the Jatropha website www.jatropha.org. If you

Re: [biofuels-biz] High FFA oils - another way

2002-09-28 Thread Michael Allen
of the reactor rather than just letting it trickle back to the top surface. Regards Keith And to you Michael Allen Thailand __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine?

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Allen
contains olein-based soaps. (Provided of course that they are similar in concentration, dispersion etc. etc. etc.) Regards Michael Allen Thailand --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crude glycerin does not solidify at room temperature. It's the soaps combined with the glycerin that give

Re: [biofuels-biz] High FFA oils - another way

2002-09-22 Thread Michael Allen
effects of elevated temperatures. But I have yet to test this out. Lipidases look to be quite a promising line for enzymatic ester formation but the literature available to me indicates poor yields and extended residence times. Thanks again for your response. Very much appreciated. Michael Allen

Re: [biofuels-biz] David Suzuki Foundation: Climate Change: Take Action

2002-09-20 Thread Michael Allen
Ed Todd I once knew a girl called Canadia . . . . . We kids used to corrupt it to Can-hardly-hear I really hope that doesn't apply to your Canadia! Michael Allen Thailandia --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered when that might get a rise out of someone. It's taken years

Re: [biofuels-biz] High FFA oils - another way

2002-09-19 Thread Michael Allen
Michael Allen Thailand --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again Paul I tried slaked lime to remove FFAs as you suggested. The filtering is a pain, and the result wasn't very good. It did take out some FFA, but it didn't neutralize the oil, though I used an excess. I didn't

Re: [biofuels-biz] High FFA oils - another way

2002-09-16 Thread Michael Allen
be an advantage if it only the FFA that you want to remove. And, as a bonus, any small amount of calcium stearate/palmitate which lands up in the biodiesel is probably not detrimental to its performance. Anyway, I hope to get around to trying the process you describe fairly soon. Michael Allen

[biofuels-biz] Back-yard cracking

2002-09-16 Thread Michael Allen
(PAH) content. Better get yourself a good lawyer! Especially if you are going to try this without a good chemical engineer on hand. Do let me know how you get on. Good luck Michael Allen Thailand --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee, Catalytic cracking is a rather involved chemical

[biofuels-biz] Work proceeding on high(ish) FFA

2002-09-11 Thread Michael Allen
appreciate a copy of that paper! Thank you Michael Allen __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling

[biofuels-biz] Work proceeding on high(ish) FFA

2002-09-11 Thread Michael Allen
appreciate a copy of that paper! Thank you Michael Allen __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free

Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification?

2002-09-09 Thread Michael Allen
be removed using a mild HCl acid solution. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Michael Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification? Dear Paddy, It's great to get some

Re: [biofuels-biz] interface layer- was some clarification

2002-09-09 Thread Michael Allen
reflux. Anyway that is our current strategy to speed up that reaction while eliminanting all free fatty acid. Any ideas would be welcome. Michael Allen __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-09-05 Thread Michael Allen
. You can even shake them together manually. But we haven't tried olein with HiFFA (yet). Any ideas would be welcome Regards Michael Allen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-09-05 Thread Michael Allen
. But we haven't tried olein with HiFFA (yet). Any ideas would be welcome Regards Michael Allen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification?

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Paddy, It's great to get some input from a knowledgable person such as Michael Allen Thanks for the ego massage Paddy but it's even greater to have some input from someone with the knowledge AND EXPERIENCE that Todd has! I think that this demonstrates the real value of the biofuels-biz

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-09-01 Thread Michael Allen
stearin. (This 1 tonne unit is the reactor which produces biodiesel for the railway trials) (Sorry to be a tad pedantic and maybe a bit long-winded but it sort of goes with the patch as a Visiting Professor here in Thailand!) Best wishes Michael Allen --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-08-29 Thread Michael Allen
PROTECTED], Michael Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Marco, I have plent of Palm Oil. When you mentioned that you used Straight Palm Oil you hadn't transerterificate the oil? That is correct. The first stage of our program was to demonstrate that oil-palm growers could

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Allen
batch or operate the reactor under total reflux. This makes it possible to operate the reactor at a higher temperature and so accelerate the rate of the separate reactions. Hope this gives you some useful ideas Regards Michael Allen --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-08-26 Thread Michael Allen
is probably quite comparable with the good Scottish lard. Lots of luck! Michael Allen --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your response, prof. Allen. I'll formulate an inquiry to Mohammed Farid as you suggest. You mentioned Thai railway application. I saw somewhere that German

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: hi ffa feed stocks

2002-08-22 Thread Michael Allen
. This temperature is close enough to the boiling point of methanol that we have to recover the excess methanol to make the process economic. I imagine you would have to do the same with lard. Lots of luck Michael Allen Visiting Professor Prince of Songkla University Thailand --- David Teal [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [biofuels-biz] Cat converters

2002-07-31 Thread Michael Allen
that any proteins in it can be skimmed from the surface. Hope this clears up the problem and you manage to convince your manager! Michael Allen --- Mccall Tom WP US [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Gasoline engines... Sulfur in fuel do not bind the catalyst in the converter