Hi to everyone:
Anyone in the Philippines interested in about a ton of glycerine cocktail.
Just haul it away and it's yours. I'm in Bulacan.
Best,
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it and embarking on the second
stage/polishing step or whatever?
I'll put the rest of my message back, below.
Please see my reply to Tom:
http://tinyurl.com/3ccqhwhttp://tinyurl.com/3ccqhw
[Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Best
Keith
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have
Hello to All,
This is an attempt to get things in focus for myself at least.
I think this topic started with Re:Biodiesel Quality Test
On 8/7/07 Mike W. stated that he allows his batches to settle for a week
before washing; No problems with wash.
On 8/7/07
I agreed, stated an
measurements and
everything.
Tom
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Jan;
Ok your post agrees with what Andres
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Hi Jan;
Ok your post agrees with what Andres said. So
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:53 AM
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Hi Tom
Hi Keith,
Then if you do one-litre test batches first, especially with iffy
batches of oil,
Ops.
I took Joe's
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[Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Best
Keith
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have you ever tried
dosing the batch again with a little methoxide? After you remove
the glycerin it doesn't take much to get the last bit of the
reaction to go and settle out
Tom
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have you ever tried
: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Tom
Hi Keith,
Then if you do one-litre test batches first, especially with iffy
batches of oil,
Ops.
I took Joe's point to be: If you have to re-process it is possible to
use info from
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Tom
Hi Keith,
Then if you do one-litre test batches first, especially with iffy
batches of oil,
Ops.
I took Joe's point to be: If you have to re-process it is possible to
use info from the QT
: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Joe,
For the sake of precise concepts, gliceryn is NOT an emulsifier.
Emulsifiers contains a clear lipofilic and hidrofilic zones in the
molecule. Which is an emulsifier is the partially reacted mono or
di-glicerides, but in a crystal clear liquid
the glycerin settle before draining it and embarking on the second
stage/polishing step or whatever?
I'll put the rest of my message back, below.
Please see my reply to Tom:
http://tinyurl.com/3ccqhw
[Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Best
Keith
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin
Hi Keith;
See my answers below.
Keith Addison wrote:
Well, settling time is free.
Acid-base aside, there's the two-stage base-base process, which quite
a lot of people use and like, but otherwise why do more than one
stage? Do you mean two separate stages, with a methanol test in
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Jan;
Ok your post agrees with what Andres said. So how do we explain Tom's
experiment then? To recap (Tom correct me if I miss
into a fat phanse and an
aquaeus phase, possibly with the salts in the bottom.'
Best regards
Jan
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Jan;
Ok your post
small amounts of these are sufficient to create stable emulsions. Would
somebody agree with me on that ?
Jan Warnqvist
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine
Joe,
I took a sample from my latest batch of BD destined for my boiler (failed
QT; but very little residue dropped out). It had settled for almost 10 hrs.
That was yesterday morning. Today there is a small, but noticable, bit of
glycerine on the bottom. More settled out after the
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have you ever tried dosing
the batch again with a little methoxide? After you remove the glycerin
it doesn't take much to get the last bit of the reaction to go and
settle out the remaining glycerin. Of course this is well known
already.
primitive) single stage base method.
Big Lunch,
Tom
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have
1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Joe,
You wrote:
Have you ever tried dosing the batch again with a little methoxide? After
you remove the glycerin it doesn't take much to get the last bit of the
reaction to go and settle out the remaining glycerin
See below
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Joe,
You wrote:
Have you ever tried dosing the batch again with a little methoxide?
After you remove the glycerin it doesn't take much to get the last bit
of the reaction to go and settle out the remaining glycerin.
I've been concerned about the
.
Glycerin is dissolved in the BD and separates from the liquid BD phase with
time.
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Joe,
For the sake of precise concepts, gliceryn is NOT an emulsifier. Emulsifiers
contains a clear lipofilic and hidrofilic zones in the molecule. Which is an
emulsifier is the partially reacted mono or di-glicerides, but in a crystal
clear liquid
and separates from the liquid BD phase
with time.
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*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have you ever tried
dosing the batch again with a little methoxide? After you remove
the glycerin it doesn't take much to get the last bit of the
reaction to go and settle out the remaining glycerin. Of course
this is well known
?
Tom
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From: Andres Secco
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Joe,
For the sake of precise concepts, gliceryn
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Joe,
For the sake of precise concepts, gliceryn is NOT an emulsifier.
Emulsifiers
:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Kewl Tom;
You are ans experimentalist like myself. How much oil/ water and how many
drops of glycerol did it take to create the emulsion?
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Andres,
Emulsifiers contains a clear lipofilic
Tom
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine Settling Time
Hi Joe
Tom;
It makes sense. Glycerin is an emulsifier. Have you ever tried
dosing the batch
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From:
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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:46
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] glycerine layer
I am about to advance to a 30 gallon reactor. All
during my one and 15 liter educational phases, my glycerin layer has always
resulted
I am about to advance to a 30 gallon reactor. All during my one and 15 liter educational phases, my glycerin layer has always resulted in a semi solid jelly but the fuel always washes beautifully in four washes to a crystal clear dark gold amber after drying. My current yield to 800 ml of fuel for
You mean I can't just do like Google? No wonder I'm not having any
luck! No substitute for tunnel vision, eh?
:-) Google's quite a good substitute for tunnel vision. LOL!
Google and the list archives both use a simple search, though Google
does some other things with it too, but the big
oes.
Tom
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From:
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Kelly
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:48
AM
Subject: [Biofuel] glycerine uses and
other fancy stuff.
You mean I can't just do like Google? No wonder I'm not having any luck!
No
Hey Greg ;
If I run my reactor (which has a 1500 watt element but is a 220 volt
unit running on 110v) I am consuming 350 watts and current wisdom says
to allow 1 hr or more for the reaction so that's 350 Wh of energy used.
If I use a 300 watt US generator and the reaction completes in 10
3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine use and other fancy stuff
Hey Greg ;
If I run my reactor (which has a 1500 watt element but is a 220 volt
unit running on 110v) I am consuming 350 watts and current wisdom says
to allow 1 hr or more for the reaction so that's 350 Wh of energy used
You mean I can't just do like Google? No wonder I'm not having any luck! No substitute for tunnel vision, eh? It just seems like a waste to simply flush anything that may have a use. Is anybody willing to talk about the ammonia process to make the mulch additive? Greg
if separation was compete in 1 hour vs. 24 hours
Keep going
Andrew
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:49 PM
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Hey Greg ;
I
t: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine use and other fancy stuff
Hey Greg ;
If I run my reactor (which has a 1500 watt element but is a 220 volt
unit running on 110v) I am consuming 350 watts and current wisdom says
to allow 1 hr or more for the reaction so that's
I am very interested in finding a use for the glycerine made by the reaction. I don't need that much soap and the local companies I have called have not been interested. The idea of using ammonia to make potassium and ammonium phosphate. I am having a time getting a handle on the searches in the
Hello Greg
I am very interested in finding a use for the glycerine made by the reaction.
Have you looked at this?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html
Glycerine
I don't need that much soap and the local companies I have called
have not been interested. The idea of using ammonia
Hello Michael,
I don't know what quantities you are going to be dealing with
but glycerine has thousands of uses from
a food and candy ingredient, soaps, hand and skin lotions, explosives etc.
If you can't use all your production, you may want to sell it locally as
it really shouldn't be thrown
Hello All
I have a question about glycerine.
what is the effect if after i have made biodiesel and let it settel in the prossesor but there is still a small amout of glycerine left in the prossesor after i have drained it and then make another batch will the glycerine that is left in the prossesor
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burton
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:07
AM
Subject: [Biofuel] glycerine ?
Hello All
I have a question about glycerine.
what is the effect if after i have
It will change the equation equilibrium slightly. Don't know if anyone
has done any analysis as to how much, theoretically or in reality.
Depends on how much is re-included in your next reaction.
You should have your processor set up to drain completely, or within a
few fluid ounces or so.
: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as
fuel
Hello Bill.
If the purpose of gasification is
only providing thermal energy for the chicken house with the disposal of
chicken manure (and glycerine) as added bonus, the biomass couldbe
gasifiedwith a simple updraftgasifier, This will certainly
Hello Marcelino,
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as
fuel
Hello Balaji, Hello Bill,
in spite of having a large supply of natural gas
content which
need to be tackled first.
Regards.
balaji
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From:
Bill
Clark
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Glycerine as
fuel
Hi to all,
Yesterday I visited a small wood veneer
Hi to all,
Yesterday I visited a small wood veneer operation
using a wood gasification unit to produce steam which heats the veneer
driers.
They had previously been using LPG as a fuel
source. The increase in the price of LPG was threatening to put them out of
business. With the help of a
Bill,
One would imagine that a gasifier would reduce all components of the
glyc cocktail to syn gas and char.
Gasification is a novel thought to reducing that waste/co-product to
nill though. No addition of anything. No chemical refining. No new
energy inputs. No disposal problem with the
Any concerns to possible toxic emissions...as with the concern of some SVOers?
I have heard that some nasty toxins are produced by the burning of crude
glycerin..although I have no data on it.
Perhaps it is temperature (of combustion) related..and hence not an issue
with a gasifier?
At 10:13
Acrolein is a co-/by-product of incomplete combustion of glycerol. One
would think that at ~2,000* F (the Wood Gun) the combustion process
would be complete.
Todd Swearingen
R Del Bueno wrote:
Any concerns to possible toxic emissions...as with the concern of some
SVOers?
I have heard that
Sorry, error in my last post.
...I am running a wvo to biodiesel project for
the City of Eufaula, AL. I produce about 600 gal. of biodiesel per week
...
Should read "... I am running a biodiesel project
for the City of Eufaula. I can produce about 600 gal. of biodiesel per
week..."
Sorry
Thanks Todd, That was extremely helpful.
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel
Bill,
One would imagine that a gasifier would reduce all components
For those who use a lower % of (c.o.) in your recipe, Castor oil can be used to
increase your bubble action.
Tracy
AntiFossil wrote
I have been making my own soap for about 14 years now. The only real
secret that I have found in regards to fantastic foaming action of your
soaps is the
the 15% :-)
Luc
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Let me just make sure I had all the details first, since some things
were left unsaid and require assumptions. If I read what you are
saying correctly, I agree with Keith on this one and it doesn't appear
viable.
1)You make BioD with the Lye/methanol method
2)Separate out the BioD from the
,
Pieter Koole
Netherlands.
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
What to do with the copious amounts of glycerine by product ? We can
follow
through with the seperation
, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
Dear Legal Eagle,
There is an industrial and commercial method of using
refined glycerin for the manufacturing of natural
soaps and detergents (and the harsher soaps too).
As JFT advocates, there is a personal quest too -
making
becomes of it once it has cured for
awhile.
Luc
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
I have been making my own soap for about 14 years now. The only real
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From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
Hi,
Thanks for writing some about making soap from the glycerin by-product.
You write about 10 grams (or more) of NaOH per liter of glyc.
How or what
Luc
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
G'day Pieter;
What I am doing here is experimenting in an attempt to make the by product
useful to me. Best
oils like olive, and
settle for less foaming soap.
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
Dear Legal Eagle,
There is an industrial
I like using avocado oil my self.
Menthol makes a nice addition to bathroom soap.It is really nice to
shave with.
Greg H.
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From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 09:13
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine
through with the seperation of the components an get a close to pure
glycerine, providing we have a market for it, or we can use it to make soap.
JtF has a few good articles on that too.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html
I am in the process of experiementing with a couple
Dear Legal Eagle,
There is an industrial and commercial method of using
refined glycerin for the manufacturing of natural
soaps and detergents (and the harsher soaps too).
As JFT advocates, there is a personal quest too -
making your own stuff.
In the industrial and commercial world there is a
As you know I'm a bit sceptical but do not seek to discourage! I'm
most interested to see what you achieve.
What to do with the copious amounts of glycerine by product ? We can
follow through with the seperation of the components an get a close
to pure glycerine, providing we have a market
,
This one's on-topic.
Maybe I'll stop buying soap this summer :-)
Mike
Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To:
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:08:24 -0500
CC:
Subject: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
What to do with the copious amounts of glycerine by product ? We can follow
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From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making
Hi Luc and everyone,
I forwarded your email to my girlfriend. I thought she might have
something to say about all
Hi! Can anyone describe the color of the glycerine-methanol layer after
treatment with phosphoric acid? According to JTF, it's sherry colored. Could
you elaborate more? Is that dark sherry or yellow sherry?
Thanks,
Chris
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loads. I think I'd rather see it go towards the
manufacture of natural urethanes than as sweetener for carmeled soda water.
Todd Swearingen
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Subject: [biofuel] glycerine distillation
Todd, do you think a thin film evaporator could be used to distill the
glycerine?
I just did some research of my own, and it looks like would have to keep
the glycerine below
Todd, do you think a thin film evaporator could be used to distill the
glycerine?
I just did some research of my own, and it looks like would have to keep the
glycerine below the flash point (176C) which means you'd need a vacuum of about
15mmHg (that's a pretty strong vacuum I assume)
Would
: [biofuel] glycerine distillation
Todd, do you think a thin film evaporator could be used to distill the
glycerine?
I just did some research of my own, and it looks like would have to keep
the glycerine below the flash point (176C) which means you'd need a vacuum
of about 15mmHg (that's a pretty strong
on 10/30/03 5:36 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And even when all things are said and done? The
cost of testing and insuring (liability) that the
recovered product is food or cosmetic grade is one
of the higher costs in the entire process. Tech grade
is a much less involved
Helow Greg and April
Surely it will produce biogas, but you need to be careful about salts, acids
alchol contenet within correct limit together with C/N ratio.there are good
experimental work
work about the use of fatty oil in biodigestion , all metabolized via
glicerol.But you also need
Does anyone know what would happen to Glycerine, if added to a methane
digester? Would it gum up the works, or would it digest ?
Greg H.
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Can anyone tell me how I can purify the glycerin by product from making
biodiesel ?
Met vriendelijke groeten,
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Can anyone tell me how I can purify the glycerin by product from
making biodiesel ?
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Pieter Koole
Dag Pieter
It's not really a glycerin by-product, it's a variable mixture of
glycerine, soaps, excess methanol, and the catalyst (lye):
If you burn straight VO , are you releasing acrolein?
Is it better to deal with the nastiness of this vs the nastiness of using
Methanol to convert
to Biodiesel.?
what about if there is a cat converter?
thanks
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
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[biofuel] glycerine
If you burn straight VO , are you releasing acrolein?
Is it better to deal with the nastiness of this vs the nastiness of using
Methanol to convert
to Biodiesel.?
what about if there is a cat converter?
thanks
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Question: Does anyone know the wt./gal for crude glycerine?
Thanks,
Bill C.
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine use
Here's a little food for thought for all those micro-biologists
Paddy at Goat writes:
As with a lot of info on the net, there seems to be a lot of contradictions.
Glycerin has been said to be a valuable biproduct, but retails at £750.00
per tonne (GBP) ex Albion chemicals, UK, which is not that fantastic for
the producer. Other possibilities discussed have
What does glycerine biodegrade into?
From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine use
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:53:48 -0700
Paddy at Goat writes:
As with a lot of info on the net, there seems to be a lot
Christopher Price asks:
What does glycerine biodegrade into?
Don't know the intermediates, but the
endproducts would be CO2 and H20:
2 C3H8O3 + 7 O2 --- 6 CO2 + 8 H2O
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Paddy at Goat writes:
As with a lot of info on the net, there seems to be a lot of
contradictions.
Glycerin has been said to be a valuable biproduct, but retails
at £750.00
per tonne (GBP) ex Albion chemicals, UK, which is not that
fantastic for
the producer. Other
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine use
Here's a little food for thought for all those micro-biologists
in the biodiesel world.
The glycerin fraction (true glycerin) recovered from the
glycerin layer of a transesterification process which has been
submitted to catalyst neutralization and FFA
Does such a suggestion mean that you're not seeking any type of
residency at your local intentional community?
:-\
Bread not Bombs.
Todd
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine
Anyone know of any government agency that might want to buy all that
glycerine. - make into bombs and stuff.
add nitric acid to glycerine and shake like crazy. =D Don't do if with
your hand ofcourse. Make something like what the bomb squad use to get rid
of bombs.
What does prime with sugar mean?
Add a small amount of table sugar to get the yeasty beasties to
start digesting.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Glycerine pretreat
t, haven't progressed very far with my investigation of this.
I did try mixing 1 litre of glycerine with 1 litre
what i would like to know is how to figure out how much methoxide to treat
the glyc pretreated oil...
anton
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From: Paul Gobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:10 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Glycerine pretreat
Back in December there was some talk on this subject by Paul Gobert
and others. The subject being to use glycerine which still has some
methanol and NAOH content to pre-treat oil used for bio-diesel.
Has anyone done further experiments? I would like to give it a go.
I did try mixing 1 litre
Hi
Is any body out there using thier Bio-D glycerine in the process used
for pre-treating leaves and flowers when drying?
If so, what ratio are you mixing it with water?
Are you treating it in any other way?
regards Trev
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- Original Message -
From: craig reece [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:10 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Glycerine pretreat (was Why people like SUVs
Paul,
Just a suggestion - change the subject line. What you posted - the
(valuable
Paul,
My pleasure.
Craig
You wrote:
Thanks Craig, bit of a slip up on my part, out of practise I guess, haven't
posted anything for a while.
Also forgot to include that the BD made from the WCSO I used for pretreat
test usually has an SG of around 0.8850. This will give an indication of
Paul,
Just a suggestion - change the subject line. What you posted - the (valuable)
results of your glycerin experiments - had nothing to do with Why People Like
SUVs.
For those of us that are on multiple Yahoo groups, deciding which threads to
read and which to discard without reading is made
G'day Group
I'm looking into the possibility of applying concentrated solar energy
for Glycerine distillation and it would be useful to know figures
on energy requirement. I don't know exactly what the parameters are
but I imagine something like the amount of energy required to raise
1 litre
- Original Message -
From: Jan Surwka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Information for Paul,
Maybe instead of bothering with glycerine as fuel one could use it as
a...fertilizer .
I have heard that glycerine after diluting with water can be used a soil
nutrient
jan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Information for Paul,
Maybe instead of bothering with glycerine as fuel one could use it as
a...fertilizer .
I have heard that glycerine after diluting with water can be used a soil
nutrient
jan
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