Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [HOT] About openstreetmap Name Conflict

2015-06-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/06/2015 16:43, john whelan wrote: It should probably be dealt with here. ...dealt with my letting everyone know this is a scam and can safely be ignored. In any case issues with trademarks need to be dealt with by OSMF since it would own any OSM-related trademarks that needed

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 04/03/2015 22:59, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Ok, last call for comments. I don't see a huge amount of support for automatically importing these from the GB community. If there's such a small number, why not just list them on this mailing list and local mappers can check the accuracy before mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-26 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 26/02/2015 08:43, Andreas Labres wrote: This confirmation of course could be automated: show the user the object with the tags on some areal imagery background and she/he can decide (in most cases, I'd say). No -- the aerial imagery could be out of date, and it may not be possible to tell

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 25/02/2015 17:23, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Hold on, you may have misunderstood. Actually I think you've misunderstood: You've said these are Junk Tags, and I think everyone has agreed with you on that. However people have also pointed out that they are probably attached to Junk Data. This means

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 25/02/2015 07:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: +1 to all that. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What is OS OpenMap (UK)?

2015-02-22 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 22/02/2015 12:11, Stefan Keller wrote: 1. Is this OS OpenMap worldwide or UK bound? Neither. It's GB only -- none of the island of Ireland is included. 2. How does this world-leading digital map look like (map style)? It doesn't -- it's data only, so needs to be rendered to make a map,

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/01/2015 10:24, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: Have you asked cquest, the editor who created it? They're the best person to answer this question. I have a validator or at least addr:interpolation parser, so I have a lots of examples like this made by different editors. So, if it's not an

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-26 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/01/2015 06:05, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: Hi everyone. There is a strange addr:interpolation way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104241240 Is it a mistake or examples like this may be interpreted in some usable way? Have you asked cquest, the editor who created it? They're the best

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Underground services

2015-01-20 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 20/01/2015 22:34, David Woolley wrote: That information would be extremely valuable to terrorists. I suspect that it would allow a small group of people to disrupt phone, mobile phone and internet communications over large parts of the country for many days or weeks. Oh no. I guess if we

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 21/12/2014 14:39, David Woolley wrote: In my view, they are not really bookmakers. For fixed odds, bookmaking requires no skill and for the horses, I imagine that all the bookmaking is done at head office. I'm not sure this detail is really relevant to us. Apply the Duck Test -- you go

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/12/2014 12:05, Ed Loach wrote: Perhaps just posting Overpass links and locals manually making the changes would be better? I think Ed has hit the nail on the head here. All your mechanical edit does is correct one tiny part of the mapping, and possibly to no great effect - it's just

Re: [OSM-talk] new mailing list request - OSM outdoor/natural phenomena mapping

2014-03-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/03/2014 13:42, Richard Z. wrote: climatic zones vegetation zones soil biology vegetation layers Are any of these things verifiable? Are they relatively static or do they change with the weather/season/year-to-year? The main OSM database only stores relatively permanent features. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] new mailing list request - OSM outdoor/natural phenomena mapping

2014-03-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/03/2014 20:30, Richard Z. wrote: despite beeing sometimes tricky I still consider it pretty important to know that a certain area is eg part of the tundra climate, permafrost or monsoon. ...and as I said, five messages ago: The main OSM database only stores relatively permanent

Re: [Talk-GB] name=Flooding

2014-02-10 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 10/02/2014 17:29, Steve Doerr wrote: Is this an appropriate use of the name tag? No. J. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Sending a message to a user from the website

2014-02-08 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 08/02/2014 10:08, Maarten Deen wrote: If I try to find the user Frederik Ram, I still won't find you and have no idea why. Why would you be trying to find a user with that name? The messaging system is there to allow mappers to contact each other over edits they've made, in which case you

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 01/02/2014 21:38, Kevin Peat wrote: Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible tags. You're all

[Talk-GB] Please don't edit Dawlish

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Based on the Somerset Levels thread, I've realised someone will probably try to edit the railway line, station and other bits of Dawlish based on the storm damage. Please don't. Apart from the temporary nature of the damage (Network Rail are predicting a few weeks to fix the line) there's no

Re: [Talk-GB] Please don't edit Dawlish

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 06/02/2014 19:25, jonathan wrote: Too late: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20413392 Has been edited by a User called Daleks with just 5 edits experience. Do we reverse? I'll get DWG to revert it. The username and changeset comment make me think it's more about mischief than

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence use of data

2013-12-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 03/12/2013 21:36, Robert Norris wrote: Normally I visually compare Hants KML (and indeed West Sussex) vs OSM tile images to identify missing ROWs and then make that a basis to include in a route for a days out walking or cycling. This might help:

Re: [Talk-GB] Probation offices

2013-08-07 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 07/08/2013 13:47, Steven Horner wrote: Thanks I will go with office=probation unless others disagree. No disagreement, but *please* document what you've used the tag for on the wiki. Don't bother with the approval process, but do give a brief description of what a probation office does and

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on the OSM Wiki

2013-06-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 25/06/2013 16:48, Mulone Moligiangi wrote: (Apologies for cross-posting) Since you don't appear to have cross-posted, I wonder why you're apologising for it. However, there are plenty of other things that perhaps you should explain: * Are you Mulone Moligiangi or Andrea Ballatore? * Which

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 25/04/2013 16:23, John Baker wrote: There are always more suitable tags than natural=grass, landuse=grass being the most obvious Are you claiming that the land *is used for* grass? That the purpose man has put that piece of land to is just grass? surface=grass yes, landcover=grass maybe

Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas

2013-03-11 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 11/03/2013 21:26, Dudley Ibbett wrote: Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for tracks that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e. not from roads to farmyards or

Re: [OSM-talk] Branding?

2013-02-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/02/2013 07:24, Robin Paulson wrote: How do we reconcile relatively permissive use of the OSM database, with relatively restrictive use of the Open Street Map name? For the moment, I put to one side Stallman's argument that there is no such thing as intellectual property [1]. In the same

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

2013-02-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 17/02/2013 00:00, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: Its not that, its convincing my wife to let me be away for 1 week vs 2 :) Bring her with you! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names

2013-01-10 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 10/01/2013 13:30, John Sturdy wrote: We could have a keyword convention for indicating the pronunciation (in various languages) using the International Phonetic Alphabet; for example, we could supplement name:language=* with name:language:IPA=* I did this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 08/01/2013 21:31, Rovastar wrote: My idea is simple can someone add modern social media networks logos/links to the home page. As a member of the OSMF Communications Working Group (CWG), I have perhaps the greatest level of involvement in the various OSM-branded pages/accounts on various

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 09/01/2013 13:43, Paweł Paprota wrote: OSM does have an official Facebook account[1] and official Twitter account ...and an official Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/+OpenStreetMap ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 09/01/2013 13:57, Greg Troxel wrote: Personally, I find it puzzling that open data (and open source) projects are willing to (as projects) use services with bad data policies and bad privacy policies. While I wouldn't advocate that OSMF take a position in the culture battle against such

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

2012-10-02 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 02/10/2012 12:29, woll wrote: The New York Times has not amended the article, so it still contains the statement that: The biggest problem with Apple’s map...is that much of its data appears to be drawn from OpenStreetMap, a Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of incorrect and

Re: [OSM-talk] diversity amongst DWG members

2012-09-20 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 20/09/2012 12:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: It would certainly be helpful if more local communities would have one of their members amongst the DWG members. It certainly would -- those local communities who feel they need better representation should decide amongst themselves who they want to

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 19/09/2012 17:26, Pieren wrote: So, theoretically, we might have the same issue when tracing from Bing for instance. Should we use a different account for Bing imagery contributions as well, just in case we move later to a licence incompatible with Bing ? No, because tracing over Bing

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/09/2012 13:42, Vincent Privat wrote: What happened on 15th september looks like an abuse of authority to me, as this largely exceeds the limits of the mandate given to the DWG. I expect a clarification from the OSMF board on this point. OK, if we're playing WikiLawyer pissing games, the

Re: [Talk-GB] SotM 2013

2012-09-13 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/09/2012 13:30, Gregory wrote: Other city suggestions (I would still help loads!)? Although everyone is going to do this, I'd like to suggest Guildford, where I live. The things is has going for it is: * less than an hour from both Heathrow and Gatwick for international attendees. * 40

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps using Sustrans Cycling data

2012-07-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/07/2012 23:17, SomeoneElse wrote: but I'm not actually a cyclist - Burn the heretic! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons

2012-06-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/06/2012 23:06, john whelan wrote: Could someone or a group come up with a more standard set of icons please? Yes. You could. If not you, who? Seriously, having a library of icons matching common OSM features is a fantastic idea, and I'm sure would be welcomed. It does need someone to

[Talk-GB] Stations and platforms=*

2012-06-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett
tl;dr: Please tag your local station(s) with platforms=n where n2 I had a conversation with Andy Allan, ooh, ages ago (it was probably at WhereCampGB in Notts) about his lovely transport layer (http://osm.org/go/euup98?layers=T) and mentioned it would be great to see station names at lower

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?

2012-04-16 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 16/04/2012 12:26, Barnett, Phillip wrote: Off -topic --- Apparently it's not been a good year for bluebells - wrong kind of spring. The ones in my garden have flowered for the first time in years! ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Further to this, one helpful thing is if everyone makes sure they've uploaded all their traces to OSM. I know I'm guilty of working from the trace files locally when mapping, then forgetting to upload them so other mappers can make use of the data. That way we're not entirely reliant on OS data

Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary keys and values, machine readable vs. humans

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 24/01/2012 11:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I wonder if this kind of tagging should be tolerated. In the wiki I found no documentation regarding this tag, and therefore this data seems unusable for most mappers. Perhaps not, but systematically removing it won't improve anything (since most

Re: [Talk-GB] Using Bing in hilly areas (was: GB License Change Readiness)

2012-01-12 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 08/01/2012 13:49, Michael Collinson wrote: I find it very easy to replace them with much better since we now additionally have Bing for position and OS StreetView for names On this one particular point, use Bing for positioning with caution in coastal and hilly areas. The parts of Cornwall

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 11/01/2012 10:02, Ed Avis wrote: OK guys, it's public domain. Enjoy. Ed, Thank you, from a mapper whose work doesn't overlap with yours very much. You've made a lot of contributions over the years, and it's great that OpenStreetMap can continue to use them. The licence change process

Re: [Talk-GB] Dorset County Council maps now offer OSM Mapnik as default base layer

2011-12-22 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 19/12/2011 00:31, Nick Austin wrote: 1) Judging by the status message that Firefox produces they are using the OSM tile server. Is that allowed? Yes, and it won't cause a problem. Browser-based applications like this only request a small number of tiles at a time for the area the user is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

2011-12-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/12/2011 21:35, Frans Thamura wrote: i think must research how to copy the data in weekly basis, Use Osmosis' replication features: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/Detailed_Usage_0.38#Replication_Tasks -- Jonathan (Jonobennett)

Re: [Talk-GB] LCN - Local Cycle Network

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 28/11/2011 18:29, SomeoneElse wrote: The problem with proposed routes is that they don't exist yet and so the usual on the ground check is difficult. Then don't map them. Seriously, if these networks aren't at the implementation stage, there's little point in adding them to OSM. Even

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 21/11/2011 14:10, Václav Řehák wrote: That's not true anymore. Downloading is disabled by Locus author in the recent versions and online browsing is limited to a certain number of tiles per day. Possibly, but on the Locus web site (http://www.locusmap.eu/version-1-14-0) there's a big red

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-08 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 08/11/2011 11:12, Andy Allan wrote: The easy-for-mappers-but-maybe-a-bit-computationally-intensive scheme you're trying to avoid Colon-delineated key namespaces are the exact opposite of easy-for-mappers, Sorry if I wasn't clear -- I wasn't necessarily referring to colons and

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-07 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/11/2011 21:48, Graham Jones wrote: I know that tagging for the renderer is frowned upon, but I really do not like all these colons in key names, because (as far as I know) that means having an extra column in the database produced by osm2pgsql for renderingand every time I want to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey Cycleway

2011-11-03 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 03/11/2011 14:22, Ed Loach wrote: Wasn’t Ted Pottage out of Postman Pat? No, that's Ted Glen. I'll get me coat. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Will OSM tiles be CC-0 soon?

2011-10-26 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 26/10/2011 14:27, Robert Scott wrote: If they're using our server capacity, the least we can ask is for attribution etc. Whatever licence the tiles are released under, the Tile usage policy is unlikely to change: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy J.

Re: [Talk-GB] Aligning buildings in JOSM

2011-09-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/09/2011 13:22, thomas van der veen wrote: Is there a good trick I am missing? Yes. Merkaartor's Axis align tool. :) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Gun Location Sensors

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 11/12/2010 16:27, Brian Prangle wrote: Here's a challenge and probably more of an ethical one than a physical one. The installation of these by west Midlands Police in Birmingham has caused a stir in the news. Should we attempt to map them? Despite their being installed in 31 US cities

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-09 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 08/12/2010 14:35, Maarten Deen wrote: I have never heard of this before and have never seen it documented anywhere or seen discussed before. The only mention of do not trace from aerial maps is when it is off Google's maps because we cannot legaly use them. Never before have I seen a

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/11/2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed to now? The announcement was made less than an hour ago -- be patient!

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in/near Horsham who can map a missing key link?

2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/11/2010 12:55, Martin wrote: We've had some feedback which indicates there is a missing link that enables cyclists to avoid a nasty roundabout over the A24 joining Horsham with Broadbridge Heath. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.06709lon=-0.35466zoom=17layers=M The link basically

Re: [Talk-GB] Stupid tags

2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/11/2010 19:36, Dave F. wrote: There are too many to list, but whilst this is topical, I have a minor problem with natural=*. It's far too general. I mean, everything under the sun is either natural or man made. Also historical=* is just too subjective to be useful. Everything, by

Re: [Talk-GB] Stupid tags

2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/11/2010 20:18, Dave F. wrote: If key tags don't mean anything, why have them? It's a quirk of the way tagging works more than anything. We need key-value tags for properties like name=* and oneway=* and there's no point in having two separate tagging systems for class type tags and

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/10/2010 08:50, Sam Wilson wrote: 1. We use OSM maps for navigation, and so management are quite able to see the value that could arise from our giving this data to OSM, because it would make the maps better. But there is a bit of a gap between lots-of-GPS-traces and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/08/2010 14:17, ed...@billiau.net wrote: In a town which does not have underground storm water management, the gutters at the side of the roads have to cross one of the roads at an intersection so you have a half-elliptical shaped culvert which traffic crosses, making a little ford. The

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/08/2010 15:36, Pieren wrote: But nobody is replying to my suggestion : is it okay to replace culvert=yes but a tunnel=culvert (or tunnel=sewel)(or bridge=culvert on the highway when it happens that the structure is directly used as a bridge) in the wiki ? I believe it's been shown that

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 28/07/2010 14:57, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow... http://xkcd.com/322/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] ito and OS Locator comparison

2010-07-19 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/07/2010 17:30, David Groom wrote: 1) add the slippymap plugin 2) then in preferences advanced preferences , add the following two entries key = slippymap.custom_tile_source_1.name ;value = ITO World OS comparison key = slippymap.custom_tile_source_1.url; value =

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange Search Result in Devon or should that be Kelland Cross?

2010-07-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/07/2010 23:28, Guy Collins wrote: Another search: high street, barnstaple and yes the result includes various options but always ...Devon County, Kelland Cross You'll find the answer here: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=12741345 Kelland Cross has been

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?

2010-06-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 24/06/2010 16:57, Toby Murray wrote: Two days ago he tweeted that the new server was nearly ready so hopefully things will improve soon! And don't forget, if you think OpenCycleMap.org is great, you could always call in at the shop on the way out: http://shop.opencyclemap.org/

Re: [Talk-GB] Comparing OS data

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 15/06/2010 10:58, Chris Hill wrote: OS claim not have any easter eggs in their data. I, like you, would definitely visit before adding anything. You may find that it is a track, rather than a road. The data may not contain easter eggs, but there are definitely errors. Here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey County Air Survey

2010-05-02 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 02/05/2010 16:27, Graeme Wilford wrote: This does look a good source and I've been using it to tidy up and add detail to many of my previous edits. Anyone know it's vintage? Looks to me like it's a couple years old; sometime mid 2008? I can put it between mid 2006 and late 2008, based on

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey County Air Survey

2010-05-01 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 01/05/2010 13:04, James Rutter wrote: Guys, there's been some suggestions on the list that there are discrepancies between the new air survey and previous GPS traces and also suggestions that the image needs 'reprojecting' etc. James, you've got the wrong end of the stick on this. I'll

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey air survey

2010-04-30 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 30/04/2010 11:48, Andy Allan wrote: However, the new owners of the imagery gave us it to use for tracing, so I'm pretty sure any licensing issues are solvable technicalities, so I'd say crack on with using it. That's exactly what I've been doing. However, I've noticed a varying amount of

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey air survey

2010-04-29 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 29/04/2010 09:10, Graeme Wilford wrote: Anyone know where we are with this? http://opengeodata.org/surrey-county-air-survey Graeme, Sorry -- I've been meaning to write this up on the wiki. Gravitystorm has created a set of tiles for z19 using the imagery. The tiles are available at:

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote: Does this mean we can (gasp!) start tracing in Potlatch and JOSM? If so, what's the final verdict on source=* tags? Hold your horses, please. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata for a summary of what's happened so far, what

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/04/2010 16:38, Tim François wrote: So then the question is: what's more of a problem? Features with no name, or no features at all? Personally, I'd rather see the road on the map with no name than not see a road at all, especially when using the maps for in-car navigation. Which would

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM shortlinks problem

2010-03-29 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 29/03/2010 10:52, Gregory wrote: I understand avoiding the ending character from being non-alphanumeric(not letters or numbers) would mean a serious rewrite of how the shortlinks are made/decoded. How much longer would short links be if all digits were alphanumeric only? It's also allowed

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting bugs and documentation

2010-03-22 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 22/03/2010 22:38, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: JOSM doesn't visualize relations at all. You need to notice that the thing you're working on is part of a relation in the attributes dialog (where the key/values are listed). Almost true. It does if you work in the wireframe view, where

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributing to PL2 (was: Re: Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back)

2010-03-09 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 28/02/2010 22:27, Randy wrote: Oops, I meant to check the groups list before sending this. There is an announce list, as of last October. However, it hasn't had much activity. That's because, try as I might, I'm not psychic and can't announce things people don't tell me about. Jonathan

Re: [OSM-talk] Community center

2010-03-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 04/03/2010 10:57, Pieren wrote: Excepted that we should try to keep spelling consistent, no ? All other approved tags using 'center' are written 'centre'. According to OSMdoc, there are already 252 uses of amenity=community_centre and 90 uses of amenity=community_center So the more popular

Re: [Talk-GB] Kent County Council Highways Gazetteer

2010-03-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 04/03/2010 10:31, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: .and for around £50 you can look and feel the part: Shouldn't that be *a* part? -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenUsability

2010-02-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/02/2010 23:07, SteveC wrote: Let me know if you want that retracted or anyone else would like to be involved in anything we can accomplish with them. You can give my name, if you like. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Road density in Naptan pay scale areas

2010-02-19 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 19/02/2010 09:49, Peter Reed wrote: Looking at the result, the broad pattern is what you would expect, with the south-east of England fairly well covered and gaps further north. But at a detailed level things are not as simple as I had hoped. There is too much variation between the

Re: [Talk-GB] Social Clubs

2010-02-19 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 19/02/2010 20:56, Graham Jones wrote: I can't find any recommended tags for such places, so I wondered how other people are tagging them? I've tagged the ones I've mapped as amenity=social_club and OSMDoc tells me there are 66 uses of this tag in the DB. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett)

Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties

2010-02-17 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 17/02/2010 14:06, Someoneelse wrote: I suspect that the problem is that the places on this list tend not to be places that you'd actively choose to visit in summer. I live not far from Mansfield, so taking that as an example (to avoid being disrespectful to anyone else's home town!), it

Re: [OSM-talk] In-vehicle tracking and editing software for tablet computers?

2010-02-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/02/2010 03:12, Sam Wilson wrote: Hullo, Does any one have any ideas about what programs I could use on tablet computers in vehicles for navigation and tracking, and possibly editing? For the navigation and tracking you could use TrackMyJourney

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 04/02/2010 14:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up a paragraph that prohibits the use of

Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

2010-01-21 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 21/01/2010 15:21, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Maybe a big map of Haiti or something? Hardly a valid criticism of OS though, is it? You don't have any maps of Haiti... -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing - Optimally Sorting Vias

2010-01-20 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 19/01/2010 20:02, Shaun McDonald wrote: You may find that adding openstreetmap to your web searches helps to find openstreetmap related stuff. Or even using this custom search of the wiki, mailing lists and forum: http://bit.ly/osmsearch -- Jonathan (Jonobennett)

Re: [OSM-talk] ?

2010-01-14 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 14/01/2010 11:01, sara susini wrote: This list generally uses English. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:FAQ e talk...@openstreemap.org - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with nominatim

2010-01-13 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/01/2010 20:45, Stan Berka wrote: Whom do I contact to correct this? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Bugs_.2F_Error_reporting ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25000 out of copyright maps and WMS url

2010-01-13 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 13/01/2010 16:48, Brad Rogers wrote: Not in my MUA. :-( http://www.getthunderbird.com/ -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protectit's users and passwords?

2009-12-22 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 22/12/2009 16:27, John F. Eldredge wrote: There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for changing to a new password See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/your display name/account where there are two password boxes. Fill them both in to change your password. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Countering Google's propaganda

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh, and someone in Ireland has just released a motor that produces more energy than it consumes. Apart from the massive D cell powering it, you mean? http://blogs.zdnet.co.uk/news-blog/#10014630 -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___

Re: [OSM-talk] API Down?

2009-12-16 Thread Jonathan Bennett
maning sambale wrote: Can't download and connect to the main site. WORKSFORME -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey meet-up

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Just a reminder that this is tonight, at the Britannia in Guildford: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/29580054 -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-30 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Steve Bennett wrote: [...] I tend to believe I can ride my bike wherever the hell I want unless there's a sign saying otherwise. That's fine for your personal decision making. However, for OSM we need to provide people with as much information as possible so they can make their own, possibly

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal RFC leisure=dog_park

2009-11-30 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Please see the proposal here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area This tag already seems to be well in use: http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/leisure/dog_park and there are no violent objections on the talk page, so it seems like it's fine

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge on Hiking Trails

2009-11-25 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Shalabh wrote: JOSM does not give me that option of a bridge under hiking trail, atleast not while using the presets. If I use the highway tag with a bridge, consider this. I have a hiking trail marked as an 'demanding alpine hiking' 50 km from any humanity and then I have a bridge tagged as

Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing only my traces in JOSM ?

2009-11-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: In Potlatch, 'Shift+g' shows only your traces and 'g' show all the traces (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts). But the same shortcuts don't work in JOSM and nothing similar is listed in http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Shortcuts. Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing only my traces in JOSM ?

2009-11-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: The only drawback is that it depends on always working on the same host. I often move and I would have preferred a solution that does not depend on local data but only on what is on the server. USB key? That has the advantage of working now, rather than waiting for

Re: [Talk-GB] Veterinary

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Chris Andrew wrote: Hi, all. I'd like to add my local veterinary practice to the map, but can't find an appropriate tag. Does one exist? Cheers, Chris. OSMDoc has amenity=veterinary as the most-used version of the tag: http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/amenity/veterinary -- Jonathan

[Talk-GB] Surrey meet-up?

2009-11-16 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Does anyone from Surrey (and Hants, Sussex or Berks) fancy a social in Guildford during the first week in December? I'm thinking of Wednesday 2nd or Thursday 3rd. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile

2009-11-15 Thread Jonathan Bennett
David Groom wrote: I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. Indeed it is. If it helps, think of a way

Re: [OSM-talk] Direct upload GPX to osm from iPhone

2009-11-10 Thread Jonathan Bennett
bernhard wrote: Does OSM provide something like openid for mobile devices. OSM supports OAuth. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OAuth -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

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