Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

2023-04-28 Thread Mikel Maron
at here. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:56:22 AM EDT, Sören Reinecke wrote: I am impressed that some of you always choose the path to complain about things going against their own world view rather to provide useful suggestion

[OSM-talk] consultation on list moderation

2023-02-09 Thread Mikel Maron
...@osmfoundation.org. We will consult over the next two weeks until February 23, and then discuss at the next Board meeting on that date. Thanks-Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-14 Thread Mikel Maron
king group.  As a non-native English speaker, I have to look up the definitions in the dictionary to confirm. =Arnalie On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 1:06 AM Mikel Maron wrote: The etiquette guidelines have issues, but I’m not sure that’s one. If there was moderation and enforcement in place, than w

Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Mikel Maron
to send an invite to the rest of > >>>> the LCCWG as well as to this mailing list. Since you have the ball > >>>> rolling, can you include lo...@osmfoundation.org in the mailing. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:22 PM Heather Leson

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of conduct

2020-12-08 Thread Mikel Maron
This is great * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 03:55:49 PM EST, Heather Leson wrote: Great!   Editing now Hope we can have an initial chat heather Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.com

Re: [Talk-us] Washington DC place node cleanup

2020-12-04 Thread Mikel Maron
"don't try calling this place anything else"? Is that common, seems unneccesary? Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, December 4, 2020, 06:04:49 AM EST, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, when reverting an edit this morning I noticed that the node f

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-03 Thread Mikel Maron
Thanks Mateusz, I agree. Points can easily be made without such garbage. Unfortunately Frederik has a habit of using rhetoric that evokes violence against women. I’m not saying that he or anyone here personally holds biased views about women. But the effect is the same, it degrades our entire

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi, I’m not actually a active moderator on this list, but I was asked to step in by several people, and I think it’s appropriate. I think this discussion can stay substantive without veering off topic into geopolitics (we have the whole rest of the internet for that), and using profanity and

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

2020-09-24 Thread Mikel Maron via talk
Might be a touch out of date, but useful guide to JOSM https://labs.mapbox.com/mapping/ * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 03:20:01 AM EDT, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2020-09-24 08:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > I looked at ht

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples of good paid mapping?

2020-09-11 Thread Mikel Maron
Most companies are doing well, and get along well, we just only hear about the problems. So it’s probably not this or that company to highlight, but particular mapping projects that illustrate well how it’s done. Mikel On Friday, September 11, 2020, 3:54 PM, Michał Brzozowski

[Talk-Kosovo] FLOSSK Local Chapter Application

2020-08-25 Thread Mikel Maron
for this submission. Best regards, Mikel Maron Board Member OpenStreetMap Foundation * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ___ Talk-Kosovo mailing list Talk-Kosovo@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-kosovo

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

2020-08-04 Thread Mikel Maron
, August 4, 2020, 5:42 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: It was a joke more aimed at Rory and a continuation of the similar discussion we’ve had on the board. And yes I agree very much with the sentiment that we don’t want OSM to be dominated by companies. or any single point of view for that matter. I’ve come

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

2020-08-04 Thread Mikel Maron
s American reformer (Upton Sinclair) often said: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not  understanding it."  – Joseph Eisenberg On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:08 PM Mikel Maron wrote: Rory, I don't know about you, but I'm certainly hoping for

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

2020-08-04 Thread Mikel Maron
Rory, I don't know about you, but I'm certainly hoping for a bunch of corporate sell outs rubber stamping iD decisions and squashing the common mapper into conformity. Why else would we be doing this? On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 04:37:00 PM EDT, Rory McCann wrote: The Board hasn't

[OSM-talk] Funding of iD Development and Maintenance

2020-08-02 Thread Mikel Maron
ur early focus on iD is to ensure continued development. We want to find out what you, the OSM community, think. Do you have any feedback? If you know of an organisation that might want to fund this, please feel free to ask them to contact the OSMF Board. -Mikel, for the OSMF Board * Mikel

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Mikel Maron
A wide scale revert without assessing closely the quality and particulars in specific countries is not a good idea. Just an opinion that a method is flawed is not enough to demonstrate that such a wide scale revert is justified. Much more detailed analysis is needed before it should even be

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Mikel Maron
> Yes please - I am using Osmcha to look at changesets around me and i have a high number of changesets which span half Europe and thus intersect with the area i am looking at. Side note to this discussion — in OSMCha you can filter out these wide spanning changesets with “Bbox size bound”

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mikel Maron
at yes OSMF has the responsibility to make sure it has a healthy development and community environment. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 12:06:21 PM EDT, wrote: On 09/06/2020 16:00, Simon Poole wrote: > Nearly all of the origin

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mikel Maron
Hey I have some other things to say on this thread, but quickly this point is based on incorrect assumptions > But if push comes to shove, and someone needs to decide how something is done, do we want US tech firms to decide what the official OSM editor does, or do we want the OSMF to decide

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Mikel Maron
Before everyone jumps to revert undelete block etc I’ve gotten in touch with the teams at Akros and am helping to work out what’s happening here and resolve. More soon. Mikel On Friday, May 22, 2020, 10:33 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Are you sure that in 72427535 buildings were

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Mikel Maron
Does possibly look like organized editing. No need to invoke intention — if this was “stealth” that means they are intentionally trying to hide. More likely case is they simply aren’t aware of the guidelines. Mikel On Friday, May 22, 2020, 4:52 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I just noticed

Re: [OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

2020-03-22 Thread Mikel Maron
Update: https://github.com/healthsites/healthsites/issues/1357#issuecomment-602164476 The editor is disabled for now.  They're working on fixing bad edits. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 03:37:43 AM EDT, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

2020-03-21 Thread Mikel Maron
Yikes. Good catch and agreed.  Can anyone track the extent of the damage, and prepare to restore the thrown away tags, while keeping the good new data? * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Saturday, March 21, 2020, 12:42:01 PM EDT, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-20 Thread Mikel Maron
examples of someone asking OSMF about a PR/blog beforehand, nor the OSMF asking for that. Not a bad idea to change expectations around this. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, March 20, 2020, 04:43:28 PM EDT, Simon Poole wrote: Am 20.03.2020 um 20:00 schr

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-20 Thread Mikel Maron
>  But this thread is from Facebook trying to change that. To side step imports. No they're not. It's a couple sections in a blog post that is being wildly misinterpreted. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, March 20, 2020, 02:18:54 PM EDT, Rory McCann wr

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-19 Thread Mikel Maron
13:01 Uhr schrieb Mikel Maron : Martin, have you actually tried RapiD? It doesnt resemble what you describe and does not disempower anyone. it changes the way we add things, or at least has potential to significantly shift the relation of individual people creating geodata (bottom up) towards bi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-19 Thread Mikel Maron
> How would a mapper performing imports via RapiD comply with the import >guidelines? By complying with the guidelines before setting up an import process that leveraged RapiD for conflation. Mikel On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 11:28 AM, Jmapb wrote: On 3/19/2020 7:57 AM, Mikel Maron

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-19 Thread Mikel Maron
Some imports are good, some are bad. We have ways to asses them with guidelines. There are tools to help the technical process. Maybe there’s more possibilities with rapid on tooling, maybe not. Seems pretty simple. This whole thread is blown out of proportion, and rehashing old theoretical

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-19 Thread Mikel Maron
Martin, have you actually tried RapiD? It doesnt resemble what you describe and does not disempower anyone. From talking to mappers in places with less developed maps than Germany, there is enthusiasm about a tool that will help their mapping processes, and a thorough understanding of the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-19 Thread Mikel Maron
Frederik, you’re crying out against phantoms, and getting stuck on one interpretation of the word “authoritative”, and using that misinterpretation as an excuse to beat on one of your favorite punching bags, and try to exact radical unrational restrictions on a piece of software. What Facebook

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-10 Thread Mikel Maron
I heard Mapbox is working on this and divide data spatially not as a sequence of changeset. My impression would be that this way you could produce a "nice looking map" but most likely it will break for routing purposes in most horrible ways where ways suddenly are not connected anymore as some

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-10 Thread Mikel Maron
er signal of problems, and hope to explore implementing it with you all. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, March 9, 2020, 08:10:29 PM EDT, Michal Migurski wrote: Hi everyone, I’m writing to let you know about a new OpenStreetMap project Facebook just

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-10 Thread Mikel Maron
mall, or even large degree, is not based on any factual inquiry of what they've done. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 04:06:05 PM EDT, Marc M. wrote: Michal Migurski wrote > Only those edits which have been validated to contain

[Diversity-talk] Notes posted on DISC, thoughts on research

2020-03-05 Thread Mikel Maron
a lot existing to draw on, and what's the most we can make with it. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ___ Diversity-talk mailing list Code of Conduct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Diversity-talk] [Osmf-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-14 Thread Mikel Maron
a lot OSMF can learn from what other folks have already done in our community, and I hope to develop relationships to explore this more. -Mikel On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 01:15:48 PM EST, Mikel Maron wrote: We just concluded second of two meetings today. Lots to digest, thanks

Re: [Diversity-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-12 Thread Mikel Maron
next steps. Maggie is going to start a OSM wiki page to gather previous research, Rory is looking at tweaks to the Diversity Statement, and Jinal is putting together a short form to gather details on interest from people who didn't make this meeting. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-12 Thread Mikel Maron
Colin doesn’t seem to be advocating for deference to and worship of authorities in all situations. That’s an over the top interpretation.  It’s maybe better to say that it’s something to consider when evaluating data — as we always look at a mappers context in OSM when looking at edits and

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-11 Thread Mikel Maron
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-February/083993.html * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 04:42:42 PM EST, stevea wrote: Thanks, Mikel, but may I please ask what you mean by "control boundaries?" SteveA > On

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-11 Thread Mikel Maron
btw, I think it's entirely compatible to follow On the Ground, with tagging that recognizes the distinction between political boundaries and control boundaries. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 03:55:48 PM EST, stevea wrote: On Feb 11

Re: [Diversity-talk] [Osmf-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-08 Thread Mikel Maron
There’s really no good time that works universally. These won’t be the only meetings or way to get involved, they’re just to get things moving. Mikel On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 1:40 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 16:12 +, Mikel Maron wrote: To accommodate time zones

Re: [Diversity-talk] [Osmf-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-08 Thread Mikel Maron
, February 6, 2020, 1:44 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: Last month, the OSMF adopted this Diversity Statement [1] and appointed a committee [2] to compile research and undertake new research on our diversity, identify root causes that contribute to any shortfalls, and make recommendations to help

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-07 Thread Mikel Maron
Godo point SteveA. If I had it to do over again, when I developed this in 2007 for our first edit war over city names in Northern Cyprus, I would have name this the "On the Ground **Guideline**" rather Rule. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, February 7

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-07 Thread Mikel Maron
There's two different concepts at play, that OSM does not currently tag well when in conflict. There's national sovereignty, which is a political concept which in large part depends on international recognition. And there's de facto control, which could result from military actions. For most of

Re: [Diversity-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-06 Thread Mikel Maron
Heather -- I chose a time next week that would be near waking hours for maximum number of timezones. We can have more than one initial meeting. Want to get this moving. Suggest another time to me and we can schedule another.-Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

[Diversity-talk] First Meeting of Diversity and Inclusion Special Committee

2020-02-06 Thread Mikel Maron
Last month, the OSMF adopted this Diversity Statement [1] and appointed a committee [2] to compile research and undertake new research on our diversity, identify root causes that contribute to any shortfalls, and make recommendations to help resolve issues and improve.  If you're interested to

[OSM-talk] Diversity in OpenStreetMap, Seeking your help on ideas for the Foundation

2020-01-21 Thread Mikel Maron
Hello -- I've written up ideas on steps the OSMF could take to address questions on diversity. Input and help welcomed. Please share to other OSM channels so people from far and wide can participate. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mikelmaron/diary/391966 ThanksMikel * Mikel Maron

[OSM-legal-talk] update to mailing list description (was use OSM data to select proprietary data)

2019-12-16 Thread Mikel Maron
o/legal-talk to  "The list for discussion of all legal matters relating to Openstreetmap, including licensing and copyright. For official information on the license from the OSM Foundation, see https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence; * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @m

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Mikel Maron
I suggest that those that want to continue this discussion do so on the legal-talk mailing list. It’s especially for discussing this level of detail of license questions.https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/  You all are free to ignore my suggestion, it’s not made with any

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-09-18 Thread Mikel Maron
Some first results from the OSM community survey https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2019/09/17/pre-sotm2019-survey-initial-numbers-and-reflections-from-board-members/ Thanks all who submitted! Curious to hear reactions and ideas here and at SotM * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

2019-09-12 Thread Mikel Maron
Fascinating discussion, thanks for all participating. The tension between an open community and standards of practice has always been the key dynamic of OSM. What I think has changed as OSM has grown and accreted code, data, and culture is ..  less opportunity to just do it. Like many things in

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Thread Mikel Maron
> My main concern is rather that there are a lot of free form questions yet >there is no option for the participants to allow publication of the individual >free form answers in anonymized form.  Select “publicly aggregated and anonymously” as answer to the first question and the free form

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Thread Mikel Maron
We did this write up on how the previous survey was useful for board discussions, and some summary of what was raised  https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2019/06/13/surveying-openstreetmap/ * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 05:55:35 PM GMT+3, marc

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Thread Mikel Maron
Also note that no questions are required, so you can skip if most comfortable with that.  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 05:00:05 PM GMT+3, Mikel Maron wrote: > The question wrt remote mapping would seem to be designed to achi

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Thread Mikel Maron
> The question wrt remote mapping would seem to be designed to achieve a >specific result.  Not at all. But please do feel free to answer truthfully, and explain anything in the previous question "Where do you map mostly?" * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Thread Mikel Maron
Sorry I but I disagree. Yoga is a long tradition in OpenStreetMap ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPq4X47x3x0 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 10:04:46 AM GMT+3, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone > On 7. Aug 2019, at

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-29 Thread Mikel Maron
So many of our tools are oriented to greenfield mapping. What creative workflows, metrics, analysis and visualizations of OSM data can bring the same thrill of creating the map from a completely blank slate, to a stage of the map where the base geometry is there? -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-26 Thread Mikel Maron
nk in another frame; or that even the corporate frame can not encompass other viewpoints, only profit. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, July 26, 2019, 01:18:11 PM GMT+3, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The most well-know version is from Upton Sinclair's campaign

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-26 Thread Mikel Maron
senting correctly. We all here get the difference and understand that HOT is a different organization. Making this distinction is not Facebook's problem, but rather HOT and OSMF should do a better job explaining the complexity of the whole universe of OSM. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mike

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-26 Thread Mikel Maron
This is just another badly written article by a third party. As someone else on thread said, hardly the first time a media piece gets OSM wrong. Take a look at facebook’s own words here  https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/ I’m sure there’s plenty of

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-25 Thread Mikel Maron
. Deliberate open work to apply ML where it can be useful -> aiding human mappers, is the name of the game. Recommend to all to check it out directly. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Thursday, July 25, 2019, 05:29:17 PM GMT+3, Martijn van Exel wrote: I did. After Drish

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-10 Thread Mikel Maron
onsider what kind of approach we can take to imagine what OSM is like in the next 15 years. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Thursday, May 9, 2019, 5:56:14 PM EDT, Simon Poole wrote: Am 09.05.2019 um 23:14 schrieb Mikel Maron: > What do you t

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-09 Thread Mikel Maron
  Also commend your attention to tagging issues Michael. There's certainly a broader issue with how tags are managed in OSM. In short it's a mess all around and is in need of a rethink. I don't think this minor issue is a "hill to die on" however. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mi

Re: [talk-latam] Invitación a mostrar nuestro trabajo en NNUU en Chile

2019-03-29 Thread Mikel Maron
Hello I support the use of OSM for the SDGs. I am not involved with this side event. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 11:40:30 AM EDT, Comunidad GeoCensos wrote: Hola amigos, Queremos  invitarlos para incluir a la mayor cantidad de

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

2019-03-12 Thread Mikel Maron
A map built from data from the osm community index to connect to mapping communities https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 1:01:59 PM EDT, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, Here’s something I ask

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Mikel Maron
Just as my opinions here don’t represent the osmf board, they don’t represent Mapbox either. Personally, I don’t care much about the details of attribution either way. I love to see it and regularly look for it in every map I come across. I tweeted this three weeks ago 

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-02-28 Thread Mikel Maron
better way. And that recommendation can only be formulated through the OSMF; a mailing list discussion will not lead to a legal decision, though it's an interesting pulse on the topic. afaik the LWG is actually thinking about updating the guidance to modern day usage, and welcome that effort.  * M

[OSM-talk] OSMF Membership Fee Waivers for Financial Hardship

2018-11-16 Thread Mikel Maron
ttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2018-November/005427.html[3]   https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2018-11-15#Voting_on_reviewing_recent_fee_waiver_requests * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ___ talk mailing lis

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Mikel Maron
highlight gender neutral bathrooms. "unisex=yes" is the tag used there.https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1951346808 The application of the tag is not consistent across the campus, so is a prime location to engage for a mapping effort. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmar

Re: [Talk-us] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

2018-04-21 Thread Mikel Maron
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Nakaner This is an epic effort and appreciated. But there are two things that need to be cleared up. > The choice was to either

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

2018-04-20 Thread Mikel Maron
of the German forum discussion, where the US community does not tend to hang out -- so I'm not sure you should just make this assumption. How best to accomplish this would actually be a good subject of discussion, but _before_ a mass action such as the one Nakaner has deputized himself to do.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

2018-04-20 Thread Mikel Maron
of the German forum discussion, where the US community does not tend to hang out -- so I'm not sure you should just make this assumption. How best to accomplish this would actually be a good subject of discussion, but _before_ a mass action such as the one Nakaner has deputized himself to do.

[Diversity-talk] Who Maps the World

2018-03-15 Thread Mikel Maron
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/03/who-maps-the-world/555272/ * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron___ Diversity-talk mailing list Code of Conduct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct Contact the mods

Re: [OSM-talk] Effecting change in OpenStreetMap

2017-11-21 Thread Mikel Maron
nts, so that development discussion and plans can become more focused. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 10:36:05 AM EST, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote: On 21 November 2017 at 14:47, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-21 Thread Mikel Maron
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Let's not get hung up on this, I think we're missing the point. The way the item in WeeklyOSM was written was rude and

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-17 Thread Mikel Maron
One request. Can we not relitigate thie topic of Yuri's tool on this thread. Want to focus on helping WeeklyOSM to improve its coverage of our whole community. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, November 17, 2017, 4:29:39 PM EST, Steve Doerr <doerr.s

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-17 Thread Mikel Maron
ect and not helpful.  The dynamic of the discussion be expressed much better, with full information, without disrespecting each other. I'm happy to find ways to help WeeklyOSM if you all agree that the issue of impartiality is an important and serious one to take on. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-17 Thread Mikel Maron
Yes, doing this is hard work, and appreciate the job WeeklyOSM has to do. Point is, statements like "Yuri is as unreasonable as before and tries to ignore all the unwritten rules in OSM" is inappropriate, and there are many better ways to summarize the topic. * Mikel Maron * +14152835

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-17 Thread Mikel Maron
contentious. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, November 17, 2017, 11:23:23 AM EST, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: 2017-11-17 16:53 GMT+01:00 Mikel Maron <mikel.ma...@gmail.com>: Now try this version... > Yuri Astrakha

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-17 Thread Mikel Maron
dual, and allows the reader to enter the discussion with an open mind. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, November 17, 2017, 6:52:25 AM EST, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi: I've read the majority of the posts of the "New OSM Quick-Fi

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-11-08 Thread Mikel Maron
communication is hard. We are missing all the context and cues from real life. Let's make an extra effort to get beyond the inevitable miscommunications when they crop up. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 4:32:42 AM EST, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriast

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-23 Thread Mikel Maron
s I think the tasking manager and it's >> relationship> to OSM could be better communicated. Hope this helps clear this up. Thanks-Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 23, 2017, 11:24:33 AM MDT, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-23 Thread Mikel Maron
e should have better guidance on the handling of trademark policy, the appropriate ways and places to raise issues, and how the OSM Foundation and LWG handle these issues. Will bring this up. Thanks-Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 23, 2017, 10:23:14 AM MD

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-23 Thread Mikel Maron
o and how to do it. We are all here in OpenStreetMap because we love the map. Can we please use that as a starting point in our interactions, and focus on helping each other to make the map together? Thanks-Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, October 23, 2017, 7:5

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Mikel Maron
after. The chdr problem has been with us for years. There is little risk in giving slightly more time to plan ahead. Perhaps that is best done country by country.  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, August 28, 2017 7:06 AM, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de>

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Mikel Maron
ed in DC, and these are expansions of both the street and the quadrant ("St NW" -> "Street Northwest"(. Can we fix the script and regen the list? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109419946/historyhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109431926/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/10943192

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Mikel Maron
ed in DC, and these are expansions of both the street and the quadrant ("St NW" -> "Street Northwest"(. Can we fix the script and regen the list? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109419946/historyhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109431926/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/10943192

Re: [Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

2017-06-30 Thread Mikel Maron
I'm going to check with some USG tech friends to see if they know anyone on the FBI web team. I think it may prove more expedient and get better attention than calling or emailing parts of the bureau which have little to do with this. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Mikel Maron
ontributor metadata from geodata would 1) really protect anyone 2) not hobble the project, which depends so much on user reputation to retain quality. In any case, let's kick that question down the road. -MIkel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, May 5, 2017 12:28 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-20 Thread Mikel Maron
l-tracker. Maybe we could also schedule a time to chat together on IRC and brainstorm approaches. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:07 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: Hi,   I find it a bit unfortunate that yo

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-03 Thread Mikel Maron
serving local governments using OSM. Let's get a catalog started -- want to create a wiki page Joost? -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, February 3, 2017 10:47 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: A couple of the city of Ottawa web sit

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-07 Thread Mikel Maron
<penor...@mac.com> wrote: On 1/6/2017 7:37 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39517002 is an example. There were issues with this import, sure. This was not vandalism, advertising, or a fatal breakage of the map -- not a situation where an immediate action was jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-07 Thread Mikel Maron
ole.ch> wrote: Am 06.01.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Mikel Maron: .. I would suggest that using this case to make your point is seriously misplaced. Reverting a broken import asap to allow for a) the guidelines to be followed, b) address technical and legal issues, is the sensible, logical and l

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Mikel Maron
), assess where there's a need for more clarity or inconsistencies, and propose some edits. -Mikel  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, January 6, 2017 6:16 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: On 05/01/17 12:23, mi...@groundtruth.in wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Mikel Maron
, and improve everyone's work overall. Mikel On Wednesday, January 4, 2017, 5:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> wrote: Mikel Maron wrote: > Reverts should be held to the same standard as imports (outside > of obviously urgent problems). Where a revert of an import (or other au

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Mikel Maron
guidance and practice in place as we have for Imports? * Mikel Maron *  +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 2:50 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: Hi, On 01/04/2017 07:25 PM, nebulon42 wrote: > I would revert it then. > Violations of t

Re: [OSM-talk] Building Detection using Machine Learning

2016-12-22 Thread Mikel Maron
editor workflow. Maybe we can work on guidelines that encapsulates this. With something written up, we'll be able to stop "spinning wheels" on whether this is useful or not, and focus on experimenting and implementing promising approaches. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mi

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Help HOT give 10 communities the resources to map!

2016-12-01 Thread Mikel Maron
to get our conversations on the right footing http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette. Thanks -Mikel * Mikel Maron *  +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM New Logo Proposal

2016-10-15 Thread Mikel Maron
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Im not a designer, but standard wisdom on logos is something that works at multiple scale with few substantial differences is

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US Census

2016-07-23 Thread Mikel Maron
Please represent in the OSM US Census! https://osmlab.github.io/census/ Look forward to learning more about our community * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Friday, July 22, 2016 5:36 PM, Mikel Maron <mikel.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: p.s. We will be sharing th

[Talk-us] Code Sprint at State of the Map US

2016-07-08 Thread Mikel Maron
/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2016/Hands-On_Day#Code_sprints We don't get many chances to come together and work together in person. Would love to see this kick off more collaborative development in the community, into the future. -Mikel  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel

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