Chris Lawrence wrote:
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Theodore Book
tbook-vggt2q2+t+feowh0uzb...@public.gmane.org wrote:
Despite my taking a local approach, I do think it would be great if we
could do a coordinated national upload of the NHD data, however.
I think it would definitely help
Spencer Riddile wrote:
Chris,
What would the advantage/disadvantage be of using a different network
name (usbrs vs. ncn) for U.S. bike routes. The author of open cycle
map would have to adjust their symbolization if we started using
usbrs. Is it good to try to keep some international
Minh Nguyen wrote:
On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote:
Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations
We'll need this kind of coordination for U.S. routes as well.
Probably wouldn't hurt for the
Joseph Jon Booker wrote:
Also, wouldn't it make sense to have the way a route is displayed as
the name? For example, network=I,ref=90 would have name=I 90, and
network=US:IL, ref=58 would have name=IL 58 in the relations.
Not really, no. Many Interstate routes have official names that have
Minh Nguyen wrote:
On 4/11/09 11:38 PM, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote:
Posted on the US Page to help coordinate US Interstate relations.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations
We'll need this kind of coordination for U.S. routes as well.
Another thing I just
Joseph Jon Booker wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:45:23 -0700
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Joseph Jon Booker wrote:
Also, wouldn't it make sense to have the way a route is displayed as
the name? For example, network=I,ref=90 would have name=I 90, and
network=US:IL, ref=58 would
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
On 12 Apr 2009, at 9:01 , Adam Schreiber wrote:
Probably because the mapper can easily identify the type of road (i.e.
Interstate, US Hwy, etc.). I'm not sure that the mapper should be
specifying the URL of the sign since it requires extra work to find it
and any
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
this is nice, will add what I have done already.
some comments for discussion.
did you change the recommendation for a reason compared to the one here?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging
not that this is perfect but it has more
Greg Troxel wrote:
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:
Why make this more complicated than it has to be? Leave the names on
the underlying way, not the relations; leave the refs on the relations,
not the underlying ways. Then it's a matter of fixing mapnik and t...@h to
do the right
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
over all this is a complex topic, maybe I should summarize some
obervations
tiger data is that the quality is from excellent to really bad in
accuracy
tiger data is old and contains abandoned roads
tiger has no level info, no direction for oneways, no turn
Ted Mielczarek wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ian Dees
ian.d...@gmail.com
mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been working on state highways and interstate relations myself
lately, too. I stopped using Potlatch for exactly this reason...
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at
Andrew Ayre wrote:
Hi! When I load OSM data into my GPS unit using mkgmap for a place in
the UK then it is accurate. When I load OSM data for Tucson, Arizona
then it is off by perhaps 100ft.
I would like to make the maps for Tucson usable, so my questions are:
- how do I tell where
0.5m resolution WMS data is now available for all of Oregon without
dealing with mangling Yahoo tiles or inconveniently placed watermarks,
all from a nice, fast wms server provided by University of Oregon and
Oregon Geospatial Enterprise Office. Here's the license info
Adam Schreiber wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Theodore Book tb...@libero.it wrote:
I have been playing around with the TIGER 2008 data, which, for some of
the counties around Atlanta seems to be much better than the old data.
If I import it for some of the counties, though, I would
Theodore Book wrote:
I have worked the Tiger shapefile converter into a state where I think
the Karlsruhe lines are ready for import into OSM. (The highway lines
probably need some more attention first.) I am uploading the Karlsruhe
ways for Rockdale Co. GA, (Link below) a place where the
Alan Millar wrote:
Can/should this be done with relations instead of separate paths? The
idea is to have it stick to the road. With this it creates a lot more
nodes, and there is no easy way to manually get the spacing right
between the road and the addresses if something is moved. Also the
Dion Dock wrote:
I have a small-picture, big-picture issue.
Small picture: I've got a track of I84 in Oregon from Mosier to
Gresham, westbound. The problem is OSM has most of I84 as one two-
directional way. What's the best way to add this track? Most of the
ramps will be messed up
Ian Dees wrote:
Its functions are:
- Strip St suffix from grid-named streets (eg. South 500 West)
- Collapse multiple spaces into a single space (lots of TIGER)
- Expand abbreviated directions (eg. S 500 E to South 500 East)
- Expand abbreviated suffixes (Rd - Road, St -
Adam Schreiber wrote:
Also in Atlanta, there's N St. I got directions from google and
thought I was looking for North St. Man was that a big mistake.
OK, so expand cardinals or not?
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Ted Percival wrote:
I'm not sure why the logic is inverted. While it is common notation to
abbreviate the cardinal directions, the street signs actually say 300
West, and I would prefer voice navigation software to say Turn on
Three hundred West Rather than Turn on Three Hundred Double-U, for
I'm curious if bicycle boulevards would qualify as living streets, given
that a living street would most closely describe a bicycle boulevard in
OSM terms, though a bicycle boulevard might lack pedestrian facilities.
Frequently, these are not streets you would want to let the kids play
in, as the
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Mario Salvini wrote:
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:
2009/6/10 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk:
In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway.
there are some main differences though: usually they are normal
streets changed in designation. That is cars are
Michael Barabanov wrote:
Can we use relations same way as for more complex cycle routes for this one?
Yes, though you're not limited to just a specific kind of way for relations.
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On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:23 -0500, Stephen Johnson wrote:
Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way out of
alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun. I have
several GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes.
My question is what should I
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:42 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:37 -0700, Barry Parr wrote:
Since most of the US users are so spred out, maybe we can
organize some online mapping parties and knock out some large
areas that are in need of
On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 08:19 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote:
The Upper Charles Trail was included in the MASSgis import. It has a
note=under construction. As imported and proposed, it slavishly
followed a passenger and freight line straight to the center of town,
but Milford sensibly added scenic
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:54 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
Boston is releasing their transit information for the Boston and
surrounding areas.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/08/coming_soon_iph.html
That's interesting. I wonder if we have any tools to make use of Google
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 08:47 -0600, James Ewen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Richard
Weaitrichard-gnthur35lhcavxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
So we USA-ians have a few nodes to move for place=state;
Ooh, yuck... the state name labels end up in the wrong spots... missed
that.
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:56 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
To make things clear, should the place=state tag be placed on, near
the node for the capital city of the state?
Why not closer to the geographic center like expected?
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On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 14:10 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
the wiki has them as proposal on boundary=adminstrative, admin level
1, but this is definitely wrong. they should be either level 3 - 5. as
far as I know they have a pretty special legal status and level 3
seems to be a good
On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 21:12 -0700, Dion Dock wrote:
Hello,
In my neighborhood there are some unpaved residential streets. How
should those be tagged?
highway=track
highway=residential
surface=unpaved
I would tend to go with highway=track unless the street in question
is
On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 21:49 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 07:30 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
It depends on what the road is like. If it's a decent dirt road that
normal cars routinely drive on, has a street name, is considered
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 11:40 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
I think people most
tag according to importance anyway.
this brings us to the topic of tiger import again. there are too many
roads tagged as residential.
Agreed. You'd think after people complaining after the first one, the
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 14:18 -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
alex wrote:
On 09/06/2009 05:56 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I would tend to go with highway=track unless the street in question is a
gravelled over macadam or some other semi-paved surface mostly because
I would expect
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 22:44 -0400, Chris Hunter wrote:
Oops, forgot to link an example -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.99212lon=-82.14362zoom=16layers=B000FTFTrelation=71023
I wouldn't mark that as a restricted access ramp unless there's signage
to that effect at the scale enterance.
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:10 -0400, Nakor wrote:
Hello,
I am wondering how you can map that when you enter a highway from a
specific ramp you cannot exit at the next one. Please see
http://osm.org/go/ZXCt9WHU-- where it is forbidden driving from I-94
east to M-10 to exit M-10 at exit 4C.
Richard Welty wrote:
On 10/30/09 6:59 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote:
Hi,
how are you tagging state-wide cycle routes?
I know we have
lcn= for local cycle routes (named not named)
rcn=for regional cycle routes (ie metro area)
then there's
ncn=for nation wide
but there's no
scn (state cycle
Chris Hunter wrote:
Tag the first node of the offramp as highway=motorway_junction. As far as
the sign itself goes, there's a proposed relationship for signs in the UK
and EU at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign that
may be of some help.
Note that destination
Dale Puch wrote:
Personally I do not think the signs should be put in OSM, just the actual
POI's are tagged.
Agreed. Another factor is that the US MUTCD only defines a very small
number of specific services nationwide (food, lodging, camping,
telephone, gasoline, diesel), while other states
Thea Clay wrote:
Hi,
I have a random question... does anyone have suggestions for how I would
correctly tag a Super Wal-Mart? I read through the wiki but there didn't
appear to be a tag that fit.
The store in question has a 1.) a full grocery store with
bakery/deli/produce/dry goods,
Randy wrote:
Dale Puch wrote:
Personally I do not think the signs should be put in OSM, just the actual
POI's are tagged.
There may be reasons to put in signs, I just do not think this is one of
them.
Dale
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Don't forget the intent of the requester's original question, i.e.,
Alan Mintz wrote:
How should one tag a no-right-turn-on-red-light restriction? Like other
turn restrictions, with restriction=no_right_turn_on_red?
I think this is going too far into depth for any real navigation
purpose, I'd say skip it as the restriction lasts for only seconds at a
time,
Owlman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have to side with not tagging them. This is a timming restriction,
not a navigation one.
Navigation is not the only purpose of OSM
Alan Mintz wrote:
California being one of those more permissive states, I agree with the
annoyance at those who don't know it's legal to turn right on red (or the
other cases) unless specifically prohibited.
Because it is rare to see this prohibition, I believe it is important to
tag and
Alex S. wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
return-to-where-you-came-from [sign] (at
state lines to send you back out of Oregon), etc).
U-Turn Route - there are quite a few signed u-turn routes in
Washington state, too. I have questioned (myself) whether these should
be explicitly defined in OSM
Alex S. wrote:
Nakor wrote:
Anthony wrote:
Five other states, namely Alaska, Idaho, Michigan, Oregon and
Washington, allow left turns on red even from a two-way street.
Thanks. I had always wondered if this is allowed here in MI as only a
few people do it at the one intersection like
Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Owlman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have to side with not tagging them
Dave Hansen wrote:
If we can come up with a scheme for getting the addressing imported in a
sane fashion and the consensus is that people want it done that way,
it'll get imported. There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that
like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't heard a single
Matthias Julius wrote:
I consider numbered tags to be messy. Nodes inside the building is not
better unless you are really producing a map of the building's
internals.
How do you figure? Strip malls typically only have one building but all
ammeneties are accessable from the outside. And
Christopher Covington wrote:
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 10:59 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
2) The TIGER import violates one of the most basic principals of OSM:
Abbreviations: DO NOT DO IT.
I really don't understand this. If the United States Postal Service and
the Census
Dave Hansen wrote:
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote:
So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in
charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much,
much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker.
I think TIGER
Zeke Farwell wrote:
In this case, I'd say the renderer is right. Both access=private and
access=no mean essentially the same thing - you aren't allowed there without
explicit approval. In the case of access=no, that approval happens to come
from a government agency, but I see no reason
Randy wrote:
Zeke Farwell wrote:
access=seasonal makes sense to me in conjunction with the date_on, and
date_off tags on the wiki.
On and off aren't clear to me. Does on mean open or closed? Probably open,
but it isn't obvious, and might lose something in a language translation.
I think
Zeke Farwell wrote:
The Crown Point bridge is currently closed. Soon it will be demolished.
Then construction on a new one will begin. Because this is the usual
cycle, I think the rendering that is used for roads under construction (dashed
Richard Welty wrote:
On 12/3/09 11:27 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
On 12/3/09 11:00 PM, David Fawcett wrote:
I agree that it would be good to have a standard answer. I am
thinking that the tag should be used for both symbology and
connectivity.
i'm going to try out the suggested
David Fawcett wrote:
I am trying to figure out how to mark up a foot bridge that is closed.
The bridge is still standing, but it is gated off because it is
unsafe.
To me, it doesn't make sense to remove the bridge, like in the case of
a bridge that has been washed out. The bridge is still
Jeff Barlow wrote:
Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote:
There are many roads through the mountains in Vermont that are generally
closed from Nov 1st through May 30th each year due to snow. These could be
tagged as:
closed = Nov-May
or
closed = yearly
closure_dates = Nov-May
The hard
Jeff Barlow wrote:
Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
A Zip Code is a routing code. It doesn't represent geography any more
than you can do a 1:1 mapping of iP address to physical location.
You can do a Pretty good job by simplifying the data, but zip codes
are attributes of addresses,
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
I have found a nice source of ZipCode boundries,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/h4ck3rm1k3/diary/8994
do you want to import them?
mike
How accurate are they?
If it's like the TIGER city limit data, I say no. (TIGER is radically
wrong about where
Anthony wrote:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.comwrote:
One can easily figure out what town someone is from based on their ZIP
Code. Is this not the case everywhere?
Certainly not. There are lots of zip codes which represent multiple towns,
and lots of
Matthias Julius wrote:
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:
Nobody uses the ZIP codes except the post office. Truckers
certainly don't use 'em, it's easier to look up the state, city, and
street in that order.
Many businesses offer to search for local branches by ZIP code.
Businesses
Stellan Lagerstrom wrote:
We have a user (mk408) who seems intent on turning 3/4 of all
residential streets in the bay area into tertiary.
This seems excessive to me. Most of these are just residential streets,
not thoroughfares, etc.
Views?
Here's one changeset:
Alan Mintz wrote:
How should one tag the name signs at the entrance to a national forest
(e.g.
http://sites.google.com/site/am909geo/osm-1/DSCS5938_small.jpg?attredirects=0d=1
)?
boundary=national_park is an error according to JOSM rendering rules.
landuse=forest renders and icon in
Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I think it would be better if greater weight were given to what
network a particular road belongs to.
Freeway expressway
Anthony wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by work differently. The laws of different
states are different, so the information which needs to be presented by the
map is different. The maps, therefore, are going to be different. I
wouldn't expect the same map to work differently in
Bill Ricker wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I can think of several interstates that are unpaved and undivided,
though all of them are in Alaska.
wow that's news to me. Are they limited access ?
No, not outside Anchorage, and even then, barely
Richard Welty wrote:
probably a better example are the unpaved state highways that may be found
in some parts of New Hampshire. they do have signage, are they secondary
because they're state highways?
I would say so. There's the surface tag, too... surface=gravel,
surface=unpaved...
It's time to retire ref=* on highway=* ways to describe attributes
of the overlying route instead of the physical attributes of the way
itself. Using the ref= tag on ways to describe routes simply
creates more problems than it solves for many reasons.
* The ref=* tag on a way is describing
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
On 8 Mar 2010, at 10:10 , Richard Welty wrote:
On 3/8/10 12:52 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
fully agree we should keep this target in mind.
But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first.
there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data
Chris Hunter wrote:
Definitely a good idea! My only concern would be to make sure the way is
correctly included in the route relationship(s) before deleting the ref=*
tags.
A valid concern, and one in which I believe human intervention is
required.
Maybe a bot could do this?
I'd prefer
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
fully agree we should keep this target in mind.
But first we have to resolve a long list of problems first.
there shouldn't be any time when the renderer or other data consumers will be
left with completely broken data because step2 was done before step1
osm
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:40:47 -0500, Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Anthony
o...@inbox.org wrote:
The important, worldwide criteria that I'd expect is this: *Motorways
are exclusive to motor vehicle traffic. *trunks are the most important
roads in a geographic area which
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:16:44 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:58:38 -0500, Chris Hunter wrote: NE2 has been
making a number of questionable edits in the northwest Oregon area
recently; I wonder if it's possible to smack 'em upside the head with a
clue
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:36:36 -0500, Zeke Farwell wrote:
Part of Paul's original email:
* Many bridges and tunnels have signed references that would actually be
physical attributes of a way, but with the ref= tag on ways describing
the overlying route instead of the way itself, makes it
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:31:19 +, Emilie Laffray wrote:
One of the national road that I used regularly
in France (N154) is very interesting as you go from what you would
consider to just a secondary road to a primary road and back to a
secondary road in some locations. The route is giving
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:37:17 -0500, Anthony wrote:
How so? I said motorway and/or trunk roads. Any roads which don't
qualify as motorways would be trunks.
But expressways are trunks. Can you provide an example of an expressway
that isn't paved and isn't divided?
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:39:15 -0500, Anthony wrote:
If bicycles aren't prohibited, it's not a
motorway.
Then most of the US doesn't have motorways, by your definition; an idea
I'm pretty sure most would find to be absurdist.
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:44:17 +, dion_dock-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ
wrote:
Forgive me if this has been brought up already, but Portland, OR seems
to be placing some of its data into the public domain. Is the license
suitable for inclusion in OSM?
http://www.civicapps.org/about/data-policy
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:25:40 -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
this discussion is triggered by a difference of opinion between myself
and NE2 about
the classification of US 301 FL A1A between Ocala, Florida and
Jackonsville, Florida.
Can we get NE2 blocked? He's been torquing the entire US map
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:36:11 -0600, Val Kartchner wrote:
Using USPS abbreviations is the convention used by all commercial online
mapping providers that I've seen. (i.e.: maps.google.com,
maps.yahoo.com, www.bing.com/maps ) I think that OSM should adopt the
same convention.
That's a
Does anybody have sources for license-compatible WMS servers in
Oklahoma? All I am aware of is the USGS data, which is very out of date
to the point of inaccuracy around Tulsa and OKC.
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:23:28 -0500, Alex Mauer wrote:
On 07/19/2010 01:13 PM, Phil! Gold wrote:
The problem with using refs to render state shields is that it can be
difficult to get the right shield. Some states use the state
abbreviation in the road reference (so Maryland route 26 is
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:41:10 -0500, Toby Murray wrote:
I see at least one highway in Kansas has been tagged with K-10 - I'm
guessing most people would consider that flat out wrong? :)
Yes, even though Kansas does refer to state highways as K roads, even
on official signage. Curious why they
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote:
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org
[2010-07-20 00:51 -0700]:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:09:35 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote:
In short, I'm okay seeing ref=K-10 on a road, because that's how
people refer to them, and because I'd prefer
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:18:43 -0500, Toby Murray wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Paul Johnson
ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Curious why they use a starburst symbol that looks
like an explosion for the trailblazer shield, though.
It's a sunflower :)
I like my version better, the mental
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:32:54 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S. 29
Frontage Road or maybe US 29 Frontage Road. Why. Because no will say
the formal out load.
Rather than Interstate 95 Frontage Road, just I-95 Frontage Road.
Why? Even
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:52:31 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
Please keep them. They're not hurting anything.
Mapper fatigue. I don't really see how anything beyond tiger:reviewed=no
and tiger:tlid= tags are useful at this point, save to make tags more
difficult to sift through by human editors.
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:56:51 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote:
Yes. Last time, a couple of us (or maybe just me - I forget) argued that
it was OK to use common abbreviations for some well-known street types -
at least St, Ave, Blvd, Pl, etc. - but the opposition was significant,
and no change could be
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:05:10 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
To avoid this either:
1) A clear exception needs to be made 2) The official rule need to be
toned down.
I vote for
3) It's there for good reason. If you want abbreviations, tell your map
renderer to garble the data for you.
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:54:48 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
I would like to formally propose two things
1) An exception to the abbreviation rule for directional indicators
with the fully expanded name going into alt_name
2) New tags to record the presence of directional indicators
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:04:31 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Since when does a frontage road get a Highway shield?
There's some special cases in Oregon where I 84 and US 30 are
multiplexed. US 30 takes the frontage in every city except Portland,
Gresham, Wood Village and Troutdale. Granted,
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:09:10 -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
On 8/4/10 7:45 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
North Service Road and South Service Road. Romantic names, I know. Are
these similar to what you are calling frontage roads?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:42:52 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
I think typically this isn't part of a name at all. Are people using it
in an address for mailing? how is it written in official records? how
would anyone do a search for a street? there are many corner cases so
there is no simple
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:17:43 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Presently numbered county roads in Florida (and New Jersey) are tagged
using parentheses, for example ref=(535) for County Road 535. The
reasons for this are essentially a historical accident. I'm proposing a
semi-automated change
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:37:33 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Or do people here really think everything should be expand to the
fullest.
Abbreviations are bad because they can't be easily automatically
expanded. However, it's easy to abbreviate in a renderer when you know
what the full word is.
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:00:48 -0400, Stefan Brandle wrote:
I teach computer science at a university about half way between
Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how to
get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to various
online data sets, or working
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:28:26 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote:
Lastly, it matches the
overwhelming majority of print usage and signage.
If print usage and signage were consistent even between cities in the
same state, I'd tend to agree. Given that what areas abbreviate which
words and what
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:52 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote:
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org
[2010-07-21 00:19 -0700]:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote:
I what way does OpenCycleMap get this right? As far as I can tell,
it doesn't render road shields at all
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