TB! v 1.41 (Was: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Quin all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 12:18:21 AM, Quin wrote in reference to the final version of TB! v 1.41: QS Does anyone have a copy of TB!1.41b5 or earlier you can email me? QS Or is there a download site that has it? Either my copy of 1.41 QS final is corrupt

Re: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Quin, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 at 23:18:21 [GMT -0700], you wrote: QS Editing in the Mail Message Editor is broken. The delete key QS doesn't work on selected strings and there are other associated QS strange behaviors. Am I the only one having this trouble? Just for grins, click options,

TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello all fellow TBUDL members, ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe "File not found" is what I'm getting. ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/thebat.zip This one does download. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 6:39:25 PM, tracer wrote in response to my saying: Tracer kindly and unselfishly helped me retrieve a good part of my email out of Calypso. Also, since the fools at Calypso blamed my windows and insisted that I install each and

Re: TB! v 1.41 (Was: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 2:15:32 AM, I wrote in response to Quin's saying: QS Either my copy of 1.41 final is corrupt (but I've tried both the QS zipped executable from the web site and the EXE from the FTP QS site) or it doesn't work on my system. Editing in

Re: TB! v 1.41 (Was: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:15:32 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 16:15 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH Am I the only one who wants this matter cleared up before installing v DH 1.41 (now downloading) over my currently installed (and trouble free) DH v 1.39? Just for the record: v1.41

OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:44:38 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 16:44 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems DH while constantly disabled - no one has run that down for me. While I don't know AtGuard, I have been following

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:42:08 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 16:42 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe ^^ DH "File not found" is what I'm getting. The file name is thebat.exe (unlike in the directory

avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Peter Asenbauer
Hi everyone, I just noticed some TB behaviour that I'd rather turn off: In TB's addressbook you can enter more than one email address for one person. This is what I did. The next time I used this entry in the addressbook to send mail, TB did not (as I hoped and assumed it would do) just send

No canvas handleRe[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Woofie
Hello Douglas, Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:43:02 AM, you wrote: DH Hello Simon all fellow TBUDL members, DH Thursday, March 09, 2000, 3:50:41 PM, Simon wrote in response to my saying: DH The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... Folks, I have got that prob with other

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Istvn Szendr
Chiming in a bit late in the thread, but nevertheless: I have tested a number of firewalls (Conseal, ZoneAlarm among them) and AtGuard beats them all. It is certainly not for the average user but the control it gives over what to block and what to pass is next to perfect. Initially I tried

Bug report, was: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Andreas Rumpenhorst
Hello Peter, Hamburg/GER, Saturday, March 11, 2000 in your mail dated Saturday, March 11, 2000, 11:17, you whispered something about "avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook": PA I just noticed some TB behaviour that I'd rather turn off: PA In TB's

Re[2]: Macro untidiness

2000-03-11 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Saturday, March 11, 2000, Jast wrote to Allie Martin about Macro untidiness: J Just tried it out. It only causes problems if you really loop the quick J templates eg qt A includes qt B includes qt C includes qt B. That's what I J tried anyway. The result was

Re: OT: AtGuard

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello István, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 12:35:04 [GMT +0100], you wrote: IS Chiming in a bit late in the thread, but nevertheless: I have IS tested a number of firewalls (Conseal, ZoneAlarm among them) and IS AtGuard beats them all. For those of you following this thread, you'd probably be

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:10:31 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems DH while constantly disabled - no one has run that down for me. TF But it really beats me why you want

Re[2]: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:13:03 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/thebat.exe ^^ DH "File not found" is what I'm getting. TF The file name is thebat.exe (unlike

Re[2]: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello István all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:35:04 AM, István wrote in response to the AtGuard issue: IS I have tested a number of firewalls (Conseal, ZoneAlarm among them) IS and AtGuard beats them all. IS It is certainly not for the average user but the control it

Re: No canvas handleRe[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Woofie all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:26:00 AM, Woofie wrote in response to my saying: DH The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... W I have got that prob with other software, such as Homesite 4.5, when I W was running the latest Eudora Pro email

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:42:08 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe "File not found" is what I'm getting. I just double checked it and it works. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.41 *:* Windows NT5 (Build 2195 ) --- ** Originality is the art of

Re: TB! v 1.41 (Was: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier)

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:15:32 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: Am I the only one who wants this matter cleared up before installing v 1.41 (now downloading) over my currently installed (and trouble free) v 1.39? My 1.39 to 1.41 upgrade was painless. No problems. -- CU, Allie ... Using

Re: QINCLUDE (was: Re: Macro untidiness)

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:36:54 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM Righto. :) It took the person who experienced this a AM while to realize what the problem was. I'd hate to see it happen AM to someone else. Allie that was me back then. That's why I now know all about infinite loops

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:13:03 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DH ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe ^^ DH "File not found" is what I'm getting. The file name is thebat.exe (unlike in the directory name, there is no underscore in the file

Re: OT: AtGuard

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Leif Gregory posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: LG We've got most of the developers of the above firewalls on-line with LG us, and they'll have full access to our results during the testing LG phase. This will give them a chance to correct any errors or

New member

2000-03-11 Thread Upgrade
Hi list, First of all i want to introduce myself! I´m Markus,writing from Germany! I used Eudora for a long time.But it slowed down excessivly on my P200. Then i found TheBat and i´m impressed! I was also a member of the Fidonet and found some usefull features that i missed in Eudora! This is

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Allie Martin posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: AM It was I who gave the ftp URL. I AM used it to download my copy which is in front of me now and is called AM the_bat.exe. I tried the URL and it works. I also used the FTP URL you posted and the file

Re: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 2:17:08 AM, Peter Asenbauer wrote: In TB's addressbook you can enter more than one email address for one person. This is what I did. The next time I used this entry in the addressbook to send mail, TB did not (as I hoped and assumed it would do) just send the

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:54:01 AM, Simon wrote: How-do-you-do Douglas, The file 'thebat.exe' is the main executable only. The file the_bat.exe is the full install. It would have been far less confusing to name the full install tb1.41.exe for instance, and the executable could then

Re: New member

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Upgrade, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 14:54:26 [GMT +0100], you wrote: U I´m Markus,writing from Germany! U This is the best emailclient i found so far! Welcome! It definitely is the best. Wait till version 2.0 comes out to further reinforce that feeling. U And now i have some questions! U

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Nick, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 06:33:52 [GMT -0800], you wrote: The file 'thebat.exe' is the main executable only. The file the_bat.exe is the full install. NA It would have been far less confusing to name the full install NA tb1.41.exe for instance, and the executable could then retain

Re: New member

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Markus, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:54:26 +0100 GMT (11.03.2000, 21:54 +0800 GMT), Upgrade wrote: U How can i sort my folders in my dominant folder? U I only found to sort them alphabetically. You can dragdrop them when you hold down the ALT key when you drag them with the mouse. U How can i

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Fred, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 09:17:57 [GMT -0500], you wrote: FW Given the relatively minor fixes/changes shown on the 1.41 change FW list, could someone explain to me why the .exe file has doubled in FW size to just over three megs? Because it's an uncompressed executable. After you

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Fred Weissman posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: FW Given the relatively minor fixes/changes shown on the 1.41 change list, FW could someone explain to me why the .exe file has doubled in size to just FW over three megs? Wow. I just checked after your

Disappearing Threads!

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do , When I hold down the ALT key and click on a name in a folder that is being viewed by threads to view all messages by that person, and then use CTRL += to return to the original threaded view, I loose the threads completely. If I then restart TB! the are restored to

Re: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Nick Andriash wrote: Sending Bcc's to the other addresses I consider a bug, or at the very least, an undesirable feature. It's not a bug. It works as intended. Whether it's an undesirable feature depends on the user, I guess. It would be nice to set a "default"

Re: QINCLUDE (was: Re: Macro untidiness)

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:51:03 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM LOL. You know, I couldn't be sure but you did happen to AM be my first guess. g Are you saying you figured that only I could do such a stupid thing? ;-) ROTFLMAO! By golly. It does sound that way. But no, that's

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Leif Gregory wrote: Because it's an uncompressed executable. After you install the full version, you'll note that the the_bat.exe file is also 3MB. thebat.exe has gone from 1.2M for 1.39 final on my system to over 3M for 1.41 final. What does this have to do with

1.41 Hangs System, Too 8-(

2000-03-11 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. FWIW, I downloaded and installed 1.41 over the top of the beta with no problems. However, one of the first things I wanted to do was test simultaneously opening TB1.41 and another program. I started up TB, and when the splash screen came up, I started Agent.

Re: Disappearing Threads!

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:11:21 +, Simon wrote: When I hold down the ALT key and click on a name in a folder that is being viewed by threads to view all messages by that person, and then use CTRL += to return to the original threaded view, I loose the threads completely. If I then

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Leif Gregory wrote: I once asked RITLabs why they insisted on keeping the the_bat.exe filename across different versions, and they said it was so that no matter what review you read, and no matter how old it was, you would always be pointed to the most current

DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Simon and Tracer, On 10 March 2000 at 21:18:03 GMT + (which was 21:18 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: t I think my number of systems is a bit larger... S Well I was actually referring to my home/office Network actually, S not my customer base. [snip]

Re: Disappearing Threads!

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Simon wrote: When I hold down the ALT key and click on a name in a folder that is being viewed by threads to view all messages by that person, and then use CTRL += to return to the original threaded view, I loose the threads completely. If I then restart TB! the

Re: QINCLUDE (was: Re: Macro untidiness)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Allie, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:30:51 -0500 GMT (11.03.2000, 23:30 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM LOL. You know, I couldn't be sure but you did happen to AM be my first guess. g Are you saying you figured that only I could do such a stupid thing? ;-) AM ROTFLMAO! By

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:36:46 -0500, Paula Ford wrote: Because it's an uncompressed executable. After you install the full version, you'll note that the the_bat.exe file is also 3MB. thebat.exe has gone from 1.2M for 1.39 final on my system to over 3M for 1.41 final. What does this have to

Re: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Paula, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:21:22 -0500 GMT (11.03.2000, 23:21 +0800 GMT), Paula Ford wrote: Sending Bcc's to the other addresses I consider a bug, or at the very least, an undesirable feature. PF It's not a bug. It works as intended. Whether it's an undesirable PF feature depends on

Folder Arrangement.

2000-03-11 Thread Shanmugam Ganeshkumar
Hi, Is it possible to arrange the folders in alphabatic order. I have many folders in main account and I dont see a way to order then in alphabatic order. Is is possible? Thanks Ganesh -- -- View the TBUDL archive at

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: MDP Please take this interesting but now wy off-topic and MDP getting-very-lengthy discussion off list. The horse died a while back MDP (from the TB perspective). I'm afraid the

Re: Folder Arrangement.

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:56:51 +0700 (GMT+0700), Shanmugam Ganeshkumar wrote: Is it possible to arrange the folders in alphabatic order. I have many folders in main account and I dont see a way to order then in alphabatic order. Is is possible? Yes. Click on the Folder tab/Heading.

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Paula, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 10:36:46 [GMT -0500], you wrote: PF thebat.exe has gone from 1.2M for 1.39 final on my system to over PF 3M for 1.41 final. What does this have to do with compression? I'm talking about compression of the executable, not compression of the download itself.

Re: Folder Arrangement.

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Shanmugam, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 22:56:51 [GMT +0700 (GMT+0700)], you wrote: SG Is it possible to arrange the folders in alphabatic order. I have SG many folders in main account and I dont see a way to order then in SG alphabatic order. Yes, just click on the Folder "bar" (right below

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Paula, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 10:42:42 [GMT -0500], you wrote: PF The problem with this logic is that mirror sites are often not up PF to date. You're never sure what version you are getting. I know PF I've downloaded and installed the same version as I currently have PF more than once.

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Leif, On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 at 01:16:11 [GMT +0900], you wrote: LG The the_bat.exe (after installation) is still compressed. When LG run, it uncompresses to the full size in RAM. 1.39 and 1.41 are LG 3MB when uncompressed (in RAM). Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear as LG to my meaning. I hate

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:20:34 +0900, Leif Gregory wrote: Yep, me too. I always grab the latest version from the RITLabs FTP, so I haven't run into this problem in a while. I didn't say it was right, only that I understood their reasons. It's indeed reassuring to see the version number

Re[2]: OT: AtGuard

2000-03-11 Thread Istvn Szendr
Hello Leif, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 1:16:23 PM, you wrote: LG Myself and the rest of the PCWize e-zine staff will be LG performing a head-to-head test of the below firewalls. We're gonna be LG throwing just about everything we can at them to see whose left LG standing and whose left holding

Re[3]: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Istvn Szendr
Hello Douglas, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 2:17:31 PM, you wrote: snip IS I agree with tracer that a firewall should not be started/stopped IS continuously. DH I didn't catch that. Reason(s)? Windows leaks. The more applications you start the more times, the sooner you are forced to reboot. IS

Re: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Sending Bcc's to the other addresses I consider a bug, or at the very least, an undesirable feature. PF It's not a bug. It works as intended. Whether it's an undesirable PF feature depends on the user, I guess. I use seperate addressbook

Re[2]: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier

2000-03-11 Thread Quin Selman
Hello Leif, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 1:27:19 AM, you wrote: LG Hello Quin, LG On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 at 23:18:21 [GMT -0700], you wrote: QS Editing in the Mail Message Editor is broken. The delete key QS doesn't work on selected strings and there are other associated QS strange behaviors. Am I

Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues

2000-03-11 Thread Istvn Szendr
Hello Keith, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:06:36 PM, you wrote: KR I try to use "Dispatch mail KR on server" nightly Doing the same here (with a lot less mail). In addition to your points, I sorely miss the option to sort the mail list by clicking on a heading. -- Best regards, István --

Re: Disappearing Threads!

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, ME Must either be me or a 'quirk'. Thanks. Talk about embarrassing. It is me. Very sorry for wasting your time. Easy mistake..for an idiot to make ;-) Oh, you want to know: (This is embarrassing) Using the horizontal scroll bar in the message window, scroll along slightly until

Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Keith, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:06:36 -0700 GMT (12.03.2000, 00:06 +0800 GMT), Keith Russell wrote: I have "leave messages on server" checked on my office machine for my private account, and my home machine "delete(s) messages on server". And vice versa. While I see no reason to have all

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Allie, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:35:54 -0500 GMT (12.03.2000, 00:35 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM It's indeed reassuring to see the version number in the AM download. At least you may abort the download when you see that the AM version is not the desired one. Ritlabs policy

Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues

2000-03-11 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:08:41 AM, István wrote: Hello Keith, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:06:36 PM, you wrote: KR I try to use "Dispatch mail KR on server" nightly Doing the same here (with a lot less mail). In addition to your points, I sorely miss

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:53:24 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 20:53 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH I didn't install it to have it constantly disabled. I installed it for DH those rare times that I need to visit a questionable website. (Some DH websites do things other than what you

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 03:39:56PM +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Please take this interesting but now wy off-topic and getting-very-lengthy discussion off list. The horse died a while back (from the TB perspective). What, a discussion that I was never involved in got

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:33:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Q: Why would you download TB if you are already running it? A: Because you know an update is available. Or you're downloading it for the first time off a mirror site and aren't really sure which is the latest version. At

Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Keith Russell wrote: ... Now, I find the "dispatch" option very difficult to use. You're not alone. I have found very little documentation on the feature anywhere, and I have no idea how the entries are sorted. It's probably the least documented major component

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Dennis all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 12:14:36 PM, Dennis wrote in response what he thought was my saying something that Simon said: DWG Hello Douglas, DWG Thursday, March 09, 2000, you wrote: S I use other stuff now. There is a choice: Lockdown2000, Signal9's S PC

Re[2]: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Nick all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 8:33:52 AM, Nick wrote in response to Simon Says (sorry, I couldn't resist that): The file 'thebat.exe' is the main executable only. The file the_bat.exe is the full install. NA It would have been far less confusing to name the

New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Markus
Hi Leif, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:51:17 PM, you wrote: LG Welcome! It definitely is the best. Wait till version 2.0 comes out to LG further reinforce that feeling. Is there any forecast when 2.0 will be released? U And now i have some questions! U How can i sort my folders in my dominant

New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Markus
Hi Thomas, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:48:02 PM, you wrote: U How can i make stationaries? Did found how to do that! TF I am not sure I understand the question. But there is a German FAQ TF file: TF Online Hilfe/FAQ/Tips : http://come.to/thebat Thanks! I will go thru this one! U Is it

Re: QINCLUDE (was: Re: Macro untidiness)

2000-03-11 Thread Jast
Morning Thomas, It's pretty simple logic: the macros are fully recursive. So, if you have a qt that includes itself, or go via other qt's one of which eventually calls the first one, it doesn't matter; TB loops forever trying to create the message. Well, as I expected... ;-) Yes, the

Re: New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do Roger (or Markus), I think you should select the message to reply to before replying. That way you won't end up posting replies to me when you meant them for Lief and Thomas ;-) Slán anois, Simon send private mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Usin' TB!

'View Message List' icon ?

2000-03-11 Thread rellieb-jean
Dear Bat folk when I have folders open I am forever toggling 'View Message List' on and off. I can't believe there is no icon for this function ( and not even a keyboard shortcut AFAIK). Is there really such an oversight/missing facility. I mean, there is even an icon for 'Copy', but everyone

Re[2]: New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Markus
Hi Simon, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 11:14:08 PM, you wrote: S How-do-you-do Roger (or Markus), It was me! 8)) S I think you should select the message to reply to before replying. That way S you won't end up posting replies to me when you meant them for Lief and Thomas ;-) Sorry! I´m testing

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Fred Weissman
FW Given the relatively minor fixes/changes shown on the 1.41 change FW list, could someone explain to me why the .exe file has doubled in FW size to just over three megs? Because it's an uncompressed executable. After you install the full version, you'll note that the the_bat.exe file is also

Re: Bug report, was: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Andreas, On 11 March 2000 at 12:41:48 GMT +0100 (which was 11:41 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: PA I just noticed some TB behaviour that I'd rather turn off: PA In TB's addressbook you can enter more than one email address for PA one person. TB did not (as

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Dieter Hummel posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH You're whining about 2MB 'wasted' on your hard-disk? Is it really worth DH discussing such an unimportant issue? As we are all creatures of curiosity, we generally mentally secern divergent events,

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:18:03 + GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 4:18:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: some of my customers do actually phone me back ;-) Normally to tell you it still doesnt work (g). I rarely get a guy calling me he is

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Justin D. Paine
Guys, I don't want to come across as whining, but I'm having a hard time determining how this thread is in any way, shape, or form related to TheBat! Isn't this something that would be better discussed off topic? Personally, I signed up for this mailing list to discuss the bat. Not you guys

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Dieter Hummel
Hello Listmembers, On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 at 00:43:39 [GMT +] Simon wrote: As we are all creatures of curiosity, we generally mentally secern divergent events, objects and information, whether they be great or inconsequential. It is rather paradoxically an 'instinct' that most

Re: New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Markus posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: M Hi Simon, M Saturday, March 11, 2000, 11:14:08 PM, you wrote: S How-do-you-do Roger (or Markus), M It was me! 8)) S I think you should select the message to reply to before replying. That way S you

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
Hi Dieter, Having a bad hair day? :) Why the programmers did _not_ compress the executable _this_ time exceeds my knowledge. If it seem so important I will ask for it and post what I get back. I think Allie suggested that it's because the developers thought decompressing the

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Fred, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 at 18:17:11 [GMT -0500], you wrote: FW I beg to differ. The file size of thebat.exe (version 1.41 final) FW which I downloaded from rit's beta only section, and am currently FW using, is 3,091,968. FW Are you saying the if I downloaded the_bat.exe and ran the

Re: New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Markus posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: M When ich reply to a message that was filtered,i get sometimes an error M saying the adminitrator didn´t allow to send it (something like that). M The message ends up in the outbox of the filtered account

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Fred Weissman
FW Are you saying the if I downloaded the_bat.exe and ran the full FW install, the .exe would be one-third the size? If so, this doesn't FW make sense. Why have two different size executables? And FW furthermore, why not have the smaller one available for those of FW use who don't need the full

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:44:38 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:44:38 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems while constantly disabled - no one has run that

Re: New Member!

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Markus wrote: Is there any forecast when 2.0 will be released? Yes, August 1999. :) For viewing new messages (and there's been lots of acrimonious discussion about this topic recently), in addition to using the keyboard shortcut (CTRL-] or equivalent) to move to

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:17:31 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 8:17:31 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: It didn't go far. There are still url's around for it - I'll see if I can find one for you tonight. I did post the links

TBUDL used for spamming

2000-03-11 Thread John De Hoog
Not doubt you all got the same SPAM mail as I, but I wonder how many of you noticed the header information: Subject: CAN BULK E-MAILING WORK 4 YOU? YOU BET***SPECIAL RATES*** Message-Id: 23111852703.SM00176@3zcSvjP0g X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TBUDL used for spamming

2000-03-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello John, On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 at 11:17:56 [GMT +0900], you wrote: JDH Not doubt you all got the same SPAM mail as I, but I wonder how many of JDH you noticed the header information: G. Apparently somebody took the time to subscribe to the list, and then used that subscribe address to

Re: TB! 1.41 download

2000-03-11 Thread Tom Plunket
Leif wrote: NA It would have been far less confusing to name the full install NA tb1.41.exe for instance, and the executable could then retain the NA name thebat.exe I don't know about the others, but I found them to NA be confusing, listed as they were. LG I once asked RITLabs why they

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:55:58 + GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:55:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: How-do-you-do, Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: MDP Please take this interesting

Re: OT: AtGuard

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello István Szendrõ, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:38:35 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 9:38:35 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, István Szendrõ wrote: Hello Leif, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 1:16:23 PM, you wrote: LG Myself and the rest of the PCWize e-zine staff will be

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:27:26 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, March 12, 2000, 4:27:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: Can Atguard and ZoneAlarm run concurrently? Douglas Douglas, the answer is YES, BUT And to avoid reviving a dead

Re: QINCLUDE (was: Re: Macro untidiness)

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:51:49 +0100, Jast wrote: Other than that, no problems using qt's within qt's; Allie was only pointing out that you have to be careful not to cause infinite loops. It just sounded like he was stating that simply using it may cause an infinite loop :-) Yes,

Re: Bug report, was: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Paula Ford
On Saturday, March 11, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: AR I think, this is a definite bug. I disagree. IMHO, this is the way this feature works in TB. If you want auto BCCs to extra addresses, supply them in a single address book entry for an individual. If not, create separate entries:

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Tom Plunket
Dieter wrote: DH 1) The decision to _not_ compress the main executable didn't harm DH anybody: download size of the beta was approx. the same size as always - DH and the same happened to the full install. Actually, to point something out... If a large program is compressed into a small

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:18:39 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote: If it was just for curiosity - several members already explained _why_ the file was such large. Why the programmers did _not_ compress the executable _this_ time exceeds my knowledge. If it seem so important I will ask for it

Re: Bug report, was: avoid automatic bcc if 2 addresses are in addressbook

2000-03-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:25:21 -0500, Paula Ford wrote: I disagree. IMHO, this is the way this feature works in TB. Urhm . who let you in on that little secret? If you want auto BCCs to extra addresses, supply them in a single address book entry for an individual. If not, create

Re: Leave Messages on Server Issues

2000-03-11 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:43:40 AM, Thomas wrote: I have "leave messages on server" checked on my office machine for my private account, and my home machine "delete(s) messages on server". And vice versa. Almost all the mail I receive via TB is personal; it

Re: 1.41 .exe size

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Tom Plunket, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:46:19 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, March 12, 2000, 9:46:19 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Tom Plunket wrote: Lief said: LG I'm not a big programmer, so I'm not going to pretend that I LG understand exactly what happens, but most-- if not

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