Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-02 Thread Allen Esterson
Beth, thanks for your generous and thoughtful reply to my messages about
the PBS program on Freud. I’ll try to respond to the points you raise as
briefly as I can manage! I’ll e-mail comments about Freud’s relationship
with Breuer to you directly because it’s not important enough to take up
space here.

Beth wrote:
And as far as the icy reception that followed Freud's presentation
of his Seduction Theory, I wonder if an icy reception might be today's
equivalent of horror and outrage.

On the “icy reception” comment, keep in mind that this is Freud’s report,
and that his sensitivity to a lack of appreciation was excessive, so it
may well be that the reception would more accurately be described as
“cool” (in the old sense of the word!). If there had been “horror and
outrage” you can bet your life that Fliess would have been regaled with
full details and expressions of Freud’s own outrage! (See his angry
responses to criticisms, or even insufficient appreciation, in other
letters.) The fact remains that there is not a single shred of evidence of
personal hostility against Freud, or of any expression of outrage about
his clinical claims, at that lecture. (And as I noted in my recent
message, the notion that discussion of child sexual abuse was taboo at
that time is erroneous.)

Beth wrote:
the PBS documentary described thus:
They [those present at the lecture] listening found his theory
as totally unacceptable and felt indifferent, amused, or
*horrified* [italics mine] upon hearing Freud's explanations.

This is simply made up. Or perhaps they’ve been reading an imaginative
account of the meeting in some book or other. As I’ve said, the only
information we have are the few words Freud told Fliess in his letter, so
the above report is an invention.

But it can't be denied that not long after this presentation,
he did change his whole theory from Seduction to Fantasy.

This is simply not the case. The presentation was in April 1896, and he
didn’t begin to have doubts about the seduction theory until mid-1897, and
didn’t come to any decision until September 1897. (He had a surge of
renewed conviction for a few more months after that, into the early part
of 1898.) And if Beth is suggesting his renunciation was a response to
antagonism directed against him, that can hardly be the case because
during the period prior to his (privately) renouncing the theory he
received considerable support from colleagues and senior professors for
his application for a professorship at the University of Vienna. A large
number of his colleagues were supportive of his candidature, proposed by
Professors Krafft-Ebing and Nothnagel early in 1897, and nominated by six
senior professors. Anyway, if, as Masson’s story goes, he sought to
ingratiate himself with the medical community by giving up the theory, why
did he keep quiet about his change of view for about eight years? Masson’s
story is not only erroneous, in this respect it doesn’t make sense.

N.B. It’s only just occurred to me that Masson must have realized that
this part of his story didn’t make sense, because he ‘doctored’ the facts
to get around it! I was puzzled by his stating in *The Assault on Truth*
that “the critical period for Freud’s change of heart about the seduction
hypothesis” was “during the years 1900-1903” [p. 119], when the evidence
is absolutely clear from the letters to Fliess that by the end of 1898 at
the latest Freud had completely given up the theory. So why did Masson
give his readers false information? Because part of his argument is that
Freud gave up the seduction theory so that he would become accepted by the
medical community again. But if that were the case, Freud would have
announced his retraction of the theory around 1900 at the latest. He would
hardly have kept silent for six more years. Masson’s thesis fails to
account for the extraordinarily long period between Freud’s abandonment of
the theory and making his colleagues aware of it. So what does Masson do?
He moves the time of the final abandonment back several years (making it
conveniently vague at the same time, 1900-1903) so that the gap between
the two events is almost closed! Clever old Jeffrey. If the facts don’t
fit your theory, change them!

Incidentally, Freud’s unconscious fantasies explanation for his 1896
clinical claims came some considerable time after his loss of faith in his
theory. (It was presented in a paper published in 1906, and grew in the
telling in subsequent accounts.) One reason for his concealing his change
of view from his colleagues for some eight years was that he was
determined not to endure the humiliation of revealing that he no longer
believed in the emphatically announced “source of the Nile” clinical
claims made less than two years earlier – and he needed time to come up
with an explanation of how he could have made such a blunder. The
unconscious fantasies theory accomplished this, though he had to
retrospectively ‘doctor’ his previous clinical claims to 

Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread jim clark
Hi

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Hetzel, Rod wrote:
 I've pasted a copy of my attendance policy below.  I would like to
 switch to a policy that doesn't deduct points for being absent.  That
 seems awfully parental to me and not something that optimally prepares
 students for the adult world that awaits them after graduation.  I'm
 thinking of developing a policy that reinforces good behavior (attending
 class) rather than punishes bad behavior (skipping class).  Anyone have
 any good ideas for doing this?  I would be interested in reading your
 attendance policies if you feel inclined to share.  Looking forward to
 your responses.

Some thoughts:

1. Present material in class that cannot be obtained in other
ways.  Students sharing notes makes this not completely certain.

2. Consider including some surprise quizzes during class time.

3. Tell students that attendance has been shown to correlate with
better grades in courses, or Don't tell them and just let the
natural consequences (i.e., poorer performance) prevail.

4. Give certain percentage of marks for class participation.  
Perhaps depends on type of class and size.

5. Tell yourself that university students are adults and if they
attend class and do well, then great, and if not, then too bad
for them.  My personal preference.

Best wishes
Jim


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RE: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread McKinley, Marcia
Rod wrote:
I've pasted a copy of my attendance policy below.  I would like to switch to a policy 
that doesn't deduct points for being absent.  That seems awfully parental to me and 
not something that optimally prepares students for the adult world that awaits them 
after graduation.  I'm thinking of developing a policy that reinforces good behavior 
(attending
class) rather than punishes bad behavior (skipping class).  Anyone have any good ideas 
for doing this?  I would be interested in reading your attendance policies if you feel 
inclined to share.  Looking forward to your responses.

**

Rod,
I used to be at a school where we were not allowed to have an attendance policy.  
There, I used pop extra-credit quizzes.  I told students that they would never know 
when there would be a quiz, but that there would be one at least once a week.  I gave 
these at the very beginning of class; latecomers could not take them.  They were just 
4 MC-questions and were on either the assigned reading for the day or the previous 
lecture.  (I was also trying to reinforce good study techniques.)  Each quiz was worth 
1 extra credit point toward the final course grade.  After taking them, students would 
trade papers and we would go over them.  This also served as review of previously 
covered material.  (Then, someone complained about trading papers, so I stopped that 
part.)  Even though there was up to 10 points worth of extra credit to final grade, it 
never worked out that I gave that much (usually, it would be 3-5 points).  And, I 
never had problems with a grade distribution being too high.  Now, I am at a school 
that encourages attendance policies and I have gone to a policy much like yours.  
However, I am rethinking that.

Of course, you would think that if material covered in class is substantially 
different from the book, that would be reinforcement enough, but it doesn't seem to 
be.  Students seem more tied in to points than knowledge (which shows up as points 
later on).

I look forward to hearing about other ideas.

Marcia

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Assistant Professor of Psychology
Mount St. Mary's College
Emmitsburg, MD  21727
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automatic flushing toilets

2002-12-02 Thread sylvestm
 My campus has those automatic flushing toilets installed.
 Are these meant to save water or prevent disease?
Those toilets seem to waste lots of water.I have had 4 flushes
while disposing scatological elements.
How does it work?If I get up it flushes even though
I do not swipe the low end digital complex.
Is this based on a human factors paradigm?
Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Attendance problem solved

2002-12-02 Thread sylvestm
 With David Premack in mind,I used a high probability ideal to reinforce
a low probability ideal.
Here is what  I do.The highest score on any exam
I give is 80 and achieving 100 depends on attendance.
I am conveying the message that there is more
to learning than taking tests.I find that students
are so zealous to get good grades that they
are eager not to do anything to jeorpadize their
goals.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Re: What would Jesus Drive?

2002-12-02 Thread James Guinee
 I saw a film a long time ago, can't remember the title but Max von Sidow (who 
 played Christ years before in a film) plays a guy who only turns on his tv 
 once a year to see if anything has changed. After doing his annual tv thing, 
 he says to his friend who comes to visit, If Jesus Christ ever came back and 
 saw all the things being done in his name, he'd never stop puking.
 
 Timely isn't it?

The title of the movie was Hannah and her sisters

The actual line was ...he'd never stop throwing up...

Yes, timely and still makes me crack up



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Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Deb Briihl

Here is the attendance policy that I use in my History of Psych class. I
use a points given method. Students get index cards at the beginning of
the semester that they must pick up before each class (that is how I take
attendance - card not picked up, person not present). If the person
participates, they are given a pen, told to write the date and then make
a checkmark (I use a bunch of funky ink colors). I am teaching a
Tues/Thurs class and have 31 students. If a student shows up, but doesn't
participate (or does a group shout of an answer), they get 2 points for
that day. If the person actually answers a question (raises hand, doesn't
matter if right or wrong, doesn't matter how many questions answered),
they get 5 points for that day. I use a different formula for MWF
classes. My students can get up to 125 points if they participate every
single class period and, if they must miss a class or two, not an issue.
However, missing many classes results in not so good a grade. Students
can actually see how many times they have missed class and how often they
participated (and class participation remains at a very high
level).
Class Participation. This
class is designed to be a capstone senior level course in which you show
your understanding of psychology. Course participation is a requirement.
You will be graded on your participation level. While I don’t require
perfect attendance, obviously if you are not here, you are not
participating. Part of your grade will be based on class attendance (for
those questions everyone shouts out an answer to). However, attendance
does not equal participation- that is, for you to earn a good grade in
this area means more than showing up and breathing or asking me to
explain something over again. When you do make comments, make sure they
are relevant to the discussion at hand. You have the questions before
class that will be the discussion we will be having. Go through the
two books and make an outline of the response that would answer the
question. There will be some answers that will not be found in the book
but the majority of the information is there. As a rule of thumb, we will
cover approximately 2 questions per class time. Make sure to bring your
answers and both books to class with you every day. If I must wait more
than 5 minutes for an answer to a question because no one in the class
has prepared for that answer and everyone is looking up the response in
class, then everyone will be responsible for that material on their own
time I will not answer any questions about that material outside of
class either.
Points for class participation: 2 for being in class that day, 5
if actually raised hand and called on
90-100 - Actively participates in almost every class period. 
80-90 - Some class participation (has contributed approximately once a
week or slightly less). 
70-80 - Minimal participation (has contributed a few times to class
discussion). 
60-70 - Came to class regularly (very few misses) but has only
participated once or twice. 
60 -
Does not attend class regularly and/or has not participated. 

At 07:28 AM 12/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Hi TIPSters:
I'm in the process of developing syllabi for next semester and wanted
to
raise once again the issue of attendance policies. In my
previous
academic position I never had much difficulty with classroom
attendance.
In fact, I never made attendance mandatory for students. I simply
told
them that they were expected to be at all class sessions unless 
some
unforeseen emergency came up that prevented them from being in
class. A
few students took advantage of this policy, but for the most part 
my
students came to class eager and ready to learn. Since taking my
new
position, however, the issue of attendance has become quite
bothersome.
The institutional culture here encourages faculty to have 
attendance
policies, so I developed one before my first semester. To my
surprise,
I found that a large percentage of my students complained on a
regular
basis about the attendance policies and tried all types of excuses
to
avoid the consequences of missing classes. This became such a
headache
that I was considering switching back to my previous attendance
policy,
but I took a very informal poll and found out that the vast majority
of
my students reported that they would not attend classes if a
professor
had no attendance policy. They stated that they would only
attend
classes on the days of exams. I've asked some other faculty about
this
and they have reported the same phenomena. My guess is that
student
complaints about attendance policies are also part of our
institutional
culture.
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Re: Re: What would Jesus Drive?

2002-12-02 Thread James Guinee
Nothing like reading your mail from the last six days, and after responding to
this message, the very next one (now days old) has already established the 
correction.

Sorry about that.  

Oh, well...

Hey Louis, if Jesus would have driven a Christler, would an apostle have 
driven a Yugo? :)

Back to scrolling down completely,
Jim G

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info: the Minorah

2002-12-02 Thread sylvestm
is it true that the minorah comes from Greece?
is there a scientific explanation as to why
a oil lamp which is supposed to last for one day
lasted for eight days?
 Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher D. Green
Hetzel, Rod wrote:

 I'm in the process of developing syllabi for next semester and wanted to
 raise once again the issue of attendance policies.  In my previous
 academic position I never had much difficulty with classroom attendance.

Obvioualy, I cannot speak to the culture at your institution. I have never
incorporated  attendance requirements into my marking schemes. The students
paid for the course. If they think they can do well in the course (whatever
level they consider well to be) while not coming to class, then they are
free to try. Sometime I give them a warning that it will be difficult to do
well without comint to class because material will be presented (in lecture or
discussion) that will be difficult to obtain in other ways. Obviously if there
is a participation or lab component to the grade, they will be unable to get
credit for that if they do not attend, but I do not make it explicitly an
attendance mark. Some people who come to class get zero for participation
because they sit there like stones. On a more psychological note, giving
marks for attendance leads student to come to class because they were made
to, rather than learning that there are certain responsibilities they must
accept themselves in order to get where they want to go. Finally, having no
explicit attendance mark will save you a ton of paperwork and wasted course
administration time.

Best,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Hi Rod:

What a sad student culture! I feel badly for you and for the students!

I think your efforts might be better directed towards some administrative 
contact with interested students who would like to see better attendance, as it 
can enhance their own education to have classmates there willingly, rather than 
under punishment of law!

Are there real reasons why the students feel they need an excuse to come to 
class or to not come to class, as the case may be?

Annette

Quoting Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi TIPSters:
 
 I'm in the process of developing syllabi for next semester and wanted to
 raise once again the issue of attendance policies.  In my previous
 academic position I never had much difficulty with classroom attendance.
 In fact, I never made attendance mandatory for students.  I simply told
 them that they were expected to be at all class sessions unless some
 unforeseen emergency came up that prevented them from being in class.  A
 few students took advantage of this policy, but for the most part my
 students came to class eager and ready to learn.  Since taking my new
 position, however, the issue of attendance has become quite bothersome.
 The institutional culture here encourages faculty to have attendance
 policies, so I developed one before my first semester.  To my surprise,
 I found that a large percentage of my students complained on a regular
 basis about the attendance policies and tried all types of excuses to
 avoid the consequences of missing classes.  This became such a headache
 that I was considering switching back to my previous attendance policy,
 but I took a very informal poll and found out that the vast majority of
 my students reported that they would not attend classes if a professor
 had no attendance policy.  They stated that they would only attend
 classes on the days of exams.  I've asked some other faculty about this
 and they have reported the same phenomena.  My guess is that student
 complaints about attendance policies are also part of our institutional
 culture.
 
 I've pasted a copy of my attendance policy below.  I would like to
 switch to a policy that doesn't deduct points for being absent.  That
 seems awfully parental to me and not something that optimally prepares
 students for the adult world that awaits them after graduation.  I'm
 thinking of developing a policy that reinforces good behavior (attending
 class) rather than punishes bad behavior (skipping class).  Anyone have
 any good ideas for doing this?  I would be interested in reading your
 attendance policies if you feel inclined to share.  Looking forward to
 your responses.
 
 Rod
 
 
 
 You are expected to be present and punctual to all class sessions.  You
 are allowed two unexcused absences in this course.  For every unexcused
 absence after your second unexcused absence, I will deduct 30 points
 from your final course point total [NOTE TO TIPSTERS:  THIS IS ROUGHLY
 HALF OF A LETTER GRADE].  I will not deduct any points for excused
 absences.  The following situations are considered excused:  (a) serious
 illness or medical emergency; (b) death of an immediate family member;
 (c) academic or athletic event that has been approved by the Office of
 Academic Affairs; and (d) other family emergency that is accompanied by
 a telephone call to me prior to the missed class.  Written documentation
 may be required in order for these situations to be considered for an
 excused absence.  Any anticipated absences that might qualify as excused
 should be discussed with me prior to the absence.   Attendance records
 will be maintained on Blackboard and updated on a weekly basis.  You
 should check Blackboard frequently to confirm your attendance status for
 the course.  If you believe there has been an error in recording your
 attendance, you will have one week to bring it to my attention and I
 will be happy to make any appropriate changes. If you are absent to a
 class session, please check with me as soon as possible to ensure that
 you have not missed any important information.

 
 __
 Roderick D. Hetzel, Ph.D.
 Department of Psychology
 LeTourneau University
 Post Office Box 7001
 2100 South Mobberly Avenue
 Longview, Texas  75607-7001
 
 Office:   Education Center 218
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 Fax:  903-233-3851
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RE: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Rick Froman
I can't believe that most of the students in your informal poll would be
that short-sighted when faced with not doing well in the class. Do they
really think that the amount of your instruction that they expose themselves
to is going to be unrelated to their performance in the class? They do know
that you, the teacher, are also the test creator, right? My experience with
a very minimalist attendance policy is that good students come to class
compulsively and poor students often miss a lot of class. I can't remember a
time when a student came to class just enough to meet the minimal
requirements and got a good grade in the class. 

Your proposed attendance policy looks like a real headache for you (which
you indicated from your message). It seems like you would need to hire two
work-studies just to keep up with paper work. I don't even have excused
absences. All absences are excused. JBU's base attendance policy is that
students have to attend half of the classes (excused or not) to get credit
for the class. I don't remember the last time I had a student who would have
passed a class except that they failed for missing too many classes.
Generally, missing many fewer than half of the classes is associated with a
low grade. I don't know the causal connection or the direction of it but it
is pretty clear that students don't do well in the class if they don't
attend. 

My feeling is that students who don't come to class will have one of two
outcomes: 

1) They will do well without attending (which almost never happens) in which
case they should have tested out of the class or taken it by correspondence
since they had no need of any instruction in the topic. In this case, I feel
great about giving them the good grade. They certainly deserved it and more
power to them. 

2) they will do much worse or fail (which is very likely) because they have
not had the benefit of instruction. In fact, if I thought most people could
pass the class without the benefit of instruction, I would change the format
of the class to one where their grade would benefit from attendance. I think
it is best to make the class meetings intrinsically valuable instead of
trying to make them extrinsically valuable by adding attendance points. 

My intro psych attendance policy is as follows: Attendance will be taken
but will have no direct effect on grades unless half or more of the class
meetings are missed which, by college policy, will result in an F for the
course.  Attendance is important since quizzes will cover material discussed
in class.

Of course, in the real world there are attendance requirements for most jobs
but at most nongovernmental jobs you don't get paid just for showing up.

Rick 

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Psychology Department
John Brown University
Siloam Springs, AR 72761
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From: Hetzel, Rod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:28 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: behaviorism and attendance


Hi TIPSters:

I'm in the process of developing syllabi for next semester and wanted to
raise once again the issue of attendance policies.  In my previous
academic position I never had much difficulty with classroom attendance.
In fact, I never made attendance mandatory for students.  I simply told
them that they were expected to be at all class sessions unless some
unforeseen emergency came up that prevented them from being in class.  A
few students took advantage of this policy, but for the most part my
students came to class eager and ready to learn.  Since taking my new
position, however, the issue of attendance has become quite bothersome.
The institutional culture here encourages faculty to have attendance
policies, so I developed one before my first semester.  To my surprise,
I found that a large percentage of my students complained on a regular
basis about the attendance policies and tried all types of excuses to
avoid the consequences of missing classes.  This became such a headache
that I was considering switching back to my previous attendance policy,
but I took a very informal poll and found out that the vast majority of
my students reported that they would not attend classes if a professor
had no attendance policy.  They stated that they would only attend
classes on the days of exams.  I've asked some other faculty about this
and they have reported the same phenomena.  My guess is that student
complaints about attendance policies are also part of our institutional
culture.

I've pasted a copy of my attendance policy below.  I would like to
switch to a policy that doesn't deduct points for being absent.  That
seems awfully parental to me and not something that optimally prepares
students for the adult world that awaits them after graduation.  I'm
thinking of developing a policy that reinforces good behavior (attending
class) rather than punishes bad behavior 

Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-02 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr Freud



Hi Allen,

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to answer my questions. I'm digesting the material you provided .

I cannot tell a lie (as George Washington supposedly said, though that's most likely a myth too), I am a little sad that I'll no longer be able to deliver one of my better shows in the classroom. I used to really get into taking the part of Freud (complete with German accent) addressing the Viennese Society for Psychiatry and Neurology with his Seduction Theory, fully expecting to be carried out on their collective shoulders for solving the psychiatric dilemma of the century. Zhentlemen, I haff solved ze problem... Then I'd be the learned audience, with a shocked and horrified expression. I'd wind up with the depressed and rejected Freud, deciding he'd do well to change his theory if he wanted his colleagues to approve of him.

Now in all fairness, I did introduce this little act with the caveat (thanks to enlightenment a while back from Stephen Black and other TIPS members - probably you, Allen), that there was lots of disagreement about whether or not this little scenario actually took place. But, damn, I was GOOD at it. ;) And the new Fantasy Theory fit nicely with blaming Freud (just a little!!) for our present-day attitude toward rape. (She must have wanted it.) Well, perhaps I can still lay some of the blame at his feet for that.

Well, I'll have to find another melodrama for my latent acting skills. (Sigh.) 

Beth Benoit a.k.a. Sarah Bernhardt
University System of New Hampshire 

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RE: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Rick Adams
I use a combination of reward and punishment in my syllabus.
Here are the relevant sections of the syllabus:

===(From Pg 2)
Attendance

Attendance is essential to successful college work. Just as it is
impossible to learn to drive without ever entering an automobile, so it
is impossible to truly master the material presented in a College course
without participating in the classroom activities. Nowhere is this truer
than in a course such as this one, which is based strongly on lecture
and discussion, rather than solely on material presented in the
textbook. In the event of absence, it is the responsibility of the
student to obtain copies of class notes or handouts from other students.
In all cases, the student will be held responsible for the material
presented in lecture or discussion. Students who foresee difficulties in
meeting reasonable attendance requirements are strongly encouraged to
discuss the problem with the instructor. Note: Failure to attend a
minimum of Twelve of the 16 scheduled sessions (without medical
justification) will result in a failing grade for the term regardless of
total points earned.

=(From Pg. 3)
 
Grading

This course will be graded on a combination of factors, summarized in
the table that follows. Each of those factors is dealt with individually
under its own heading. 


Term Paper: 80 points maximum
Participation:  80 points maximum
Quizzes:80 points maximum
Essays/Projects:80 points maximum
Final Exam: 80 points maximum
 400 maximum possible points 

Numeric grades will be based on the following table:

360 points up:  4.0
340 through 359:3.5
320 through 339:3.0
300 through 319:2.5
280 through 299:2.0
260 through 279:1.5
240 through 259:1.0
220 through 239:0.5
219 or below:   0.0

Students who demonstrate a serious commitment to the class through
attendance at a minimum of 14 sections will, if they are within 10
points of the next higher grade, receive that grade. Students who
demonstrate lack of interest in the course through poor attendance
records will not have their grades increased under any circumstances.
Attendance at a minimum of twelve sessions is required for a 2.0 or
better grade, regardless of total accumulated points. Note: Attendance
at the minimum number of sessions alone will not result in a passing
grade; the appropriate number of points (see the above table) must be
earned for any grade to be awarded.

=(From Pg. 7)

Quizzes

There will be four scheduled quizzes, plus on unscheduled pop quiz,
each representing a separate area of study in your text. Each quiz will
be worth up to 20 points. In computing grades, the lowest quiz score
will be dropped. Quizzes may consist of multiple choice, matching,
fill-in, or short essay questions. Because the lowest score will be
dropped, makeup quizzes will be available only for students who have
medical verification for their absence from two scheduled quizzes and
will be essay format.

(From Pg. 8)

Participation

Many students are uncomfortable with open discussion. Some fear that
they will be judged on their beliefs or values; others feel that they
lack good communications skills; still others are simply uneasy speaking
in groups. While, ideally, everyone would feel comfortable participating
actively in the discussions, in reality this is not only unlikely, but
represents an unfair burden on those for whom such participation is
effectively impossible. For this reason, and because the opportunity to
listen to the perspectives of others is often as valuable as the actual
opportunity to participate in presenting those views, grading for
participation will be based totally on active attendance at scheduled
class meetings. In order to verify participation credit, a sign-up sheet
will be circulated during the class period. Students whose names do not
appear on the sheet (or who arrive more than 10 minutes late or leave
more than 10 minutes prior to the end of class without prior arrangement
with the instructor) will not receive credit for that session. Each
class session counts for 5 points to a maximum of 80 points for the
semester. Note: As stated earlier in this syllabus, students who fail to
attend a minimum of 12 sections, as determined by the sign-up sheets,
will not be eligible to receive a passing grade in the class unless they
are able to provide verification of their inability to attend classes
for medical or emergency reasons. Students who have missed 5 or more
sections are, therefore strongly 

Re: info: the Minorah

2002-12-02 Thread Paul Brandon
At 6:52 AM -0800 12/2/02, sylvestm wrote:

is it true that the minorah comes from Greece?



I have no idea, since I have no idea what a minorah is.
If you mean Menorah, the answer is no.
Oil lamps are quite old.


is there a scientific explanation as to why
a oil lamp which is supposed to last for one day
lasted for eight days?



No, since it's not a scientific question.
It's a myth invented rather recently to change a military holiday 
into a spiritual one.

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Charles Company

2002-12-02 Thread QuantyM
Are any of you tipsters familiar with this company and/or web site? I would
like to know how you evaluate their information.
http://psypher.phatpete.org/

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Grant Writer
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info: the Menorah

2002-12-02 Thread sylvestm
 did the Maccabees(sp) really defeated the Syrians at that battle?

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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RE: automatic flushing toilets

2002-12-02 Thread Charles M. Huffman
Michael Sylvester wrote:

I have had 4 flushes while disposing scatological elements.

Are you providing this information as confirmation of what many have
suspected all along?

Chuck

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Subject: automatic flushing toilets

 My campus has those automatic flushing toilets installed.
 Are these meant to save water or prevent disease?
Those toilets seem to waste lots of water.I have had 4 flushes
while disposing scatological elements.
How does it work?If I get up it flushes even though
I do not swipe the low end digital complex.
Is this based on a human factors paradigm?
Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread Linda Walsh
Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the Discovering Psych
tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's conditioned eyeblink
research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody remember what tape
that segment is on?
Linda Walsh
University of Northern Iowa
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Re: Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread James K. Denson
Lerning I believe

Mr. Denson
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Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the Discovering Psych
tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's conditioned eyeblink
research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody remember what tape
that segment is on?
Linda Walsh
University of Northern Iowa
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RE: Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Scoles
Try Remembering and Forgetting.

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 Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the 
 Discovering Psych
 tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's conditioned eyeblink
 research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody 
 remember what tape
 that segment is on?
 Linda Walsh


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transgender sensitivity class

2002-12-02 Thread hgelpi
Tipsters

I've been asked to put together a one-day transgender sensitivity
workshop/seminar for a population of law enforcement personnel and was
wondering if anybody could provide me with any ideas,
links/benchmarks/resources for such a presentation.

It feels kind of daunting since it seems that the reasons for this training
is because of some intolerance on the part of law enforcement personnel,
including probation officers, to their transgendered charges.  All I've been
told at this point is that they either perceive or have a number of TG sex
offenders.  I don't have stats on this but tend to believe that this would
make for a very small population.  I've been trying to put together an
agenda and so far, figured that I'd need to include the following:

-- Just want to see if there are any glaring things missing or if there is
some resource that I can use.

Goal of Training: To provide a thorough overview of Transgender issues for
professionals who need to understand how to work with and serve this
population.

Agenda:

Overview of training materials (glossary of terms, resource listings, etc.)

Ice-Breaker

Myths and Facts about Transgenderism
Some exercises for dispelling myths/prejudices and increasing our awareness
of the wide continuum of sexuality and identity.

Gender and Identity
Sex verses Gender
Gender Identity Issues
Gender Roles
Sexual Identity verses Sexual Orientation
Biology and Intersex

What it means to be Transgendered
 Health Issues
 Discrimination

Transgender Issues at the Workplace

the many faces of the Transgendered Community

Exercise - some type of opportunity to engage in role-play or hand's-on
situation


Thanks

Haydee Gelpi
Broward Community College
Florida





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Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Paul Brandon
As a behaviorist, I'm struck by how much of this thread is concerned 
with how to coerce/compel attendance vs. a functional analysis of 
attendance requirements.

We (in these United States) require attendance in elementary and 
secondary schools because an educated populace is regarded as a 
public benefit, so students are required to learn whether they want 
to or not.  This is in turn enforced by public tuition funding which 
is usually contingent upon student attendance.

We're approaching this situation in postsecondary education, but I'm 
not sure that this is a good trend (extending universal public 
education by another two/four years).

As Jim Clark pointed out, we can approach the control of the behavior 
of attending classes from two directions:

1.  We can impose an arbitrary contingency such as points towards a 
grade or pop quizzes (these may have other functions as well).  This 
assumes that either:
	a.  Attendance has some value in and of itself, or
	b.  Attendance is a necessary condition for learning and thus
		its compulsion is justified.

2.  We can rely on natural contingencies -- those inherent in the 
behavior itself and not requiring someone's planned intervention. 
Again, there are two categories:
	a.  Making attending reinforcing in its own right
		(lectures as 'dog-and-pony shows' -- see PowerPoint).
	b.  Assuming that attendance has or will acquire conditioned 
reinforcing
		properties through its association with better class 
performance
			and grades.
		or through a general conditioned reinforcing value of learning
		(acquiring new behavior has become a generalized conditioned
		reinforcer because it has been paired with many other 
reinforcers.

Personally, I go with the second function.
Since I use a PSI unit/master system, I don't lecture anyway.

On a personal note (ancient history) I did once do well in a class 
without attending.
Graduate statistics!
We were using the Hays text (first edition, I believe).
Bill Hays was on the faculty, but not teaching the course because of 
department politics.  I found that the lectures were just confusing 
me and taught myself the material from the text, showing up only to 
take tests and get them back.
Hopefully this is not a typical situation for _this_ list!

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Re: info: the Minorah

2002-12-02 Thread Hank Goldstein
1. My menorah comes from the Spertus College of Judaica in Chicago, Ill.
2. Who knows these things (was Jonah swallowed by a whale, did the Red
Sea really part for Moses or for Charleton Heston, even)?
3. Stop with all this tsouris (trouble). Go eat some latkes and spin a
dreidel already!
Happy Chanukah,
Hank

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is it true that the minorah comes from Greece?
is there a scientific explanation as to why
a oil lamp which is supposed to last for one day
lasted for eight days?
 Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Re: Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Hi Linda:

I just showed it recently. It was the section with classical conditioning. I 
don't know the specific number of the segment.

Annette

Quoting Linda Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the Discovering
 Psych
 tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's conditioned eyeblink
 research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody remember what
 tape
 that segment is on?
 Linda Walsh
 University of Northern Iowa
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Re: Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread Michael Lee

Hi,

The exact title is Learning No. 08 in the series, both
for the old and updated editions.

Mike Lee
Dept of Psychology
University of Manitoba
Winnipeg, MB, Canada

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Annette Taylor, Ph. D. wrote:

 Hi Linda:

 I just showed it recently. It was the section with classical conditioning. I
 don't know the specific number of the segment.

 Annette

 Quoting Linda Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the Discovering
  Psych
  tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's conditioned eyeblink
  research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody remember what
  tape
  that segment is on?
  Linda Walsh
  University of Northern Iowa
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RE: Discovering Psych

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Scoles
No, really--it is about 21 minutes into Remembering and Forgetting.  No. 9
in the series.

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 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
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 Hi,

 The exact title is Learning No. 08 in the series, both
 for the old and updated editions.

 Mike Lee
 Dept of Psychology
 University of Manitoba
 Winnipeg, MB, Canada

 On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Annette Taylor, Ph. D. wrote:

  Hi Linda:
 
  I just showed it recently. It was the section with classical
 conditioning. I
  don't know the specific number of the segment.
 
  Annette
 
  Quoting Linda Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Help! I've been running through episode after episode of the
 Discovering
   Psych
   tapes looking for the segment on Richard Thompson's
 conditioned eyeblink
   research on the cerebellum, but haven't located it. Anybody
 remember what
   tape
   that segment is on?
   Linda Walsh
   University of Northern Iowa
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Re: Re: What would Jesus Drive?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Black
On 2 Dec 2002, James Guinee wrote:

 Hey Louis, if Jesus would have driven a Christler, would an apostle
 have driven a Yugo? :)
 

Heard on the Canadian People's Radio (the CBC) the other day:

It was a 1950's Plymouth Fury, same as God drove. Because is it not 
written:

God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden in a Fury?

Actually, it turns out that there's a whole web page's worth of these 
at:

http://cartalk.cars.com/Mail/Letters/2001/07.13/3.html

I particularly like the claim that Jesus drove a Honda. Seems 
reasonable to me.

-Stephen
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Re: Re: What would Jesus Drive?

2002-12-02 Thread Paul Brandon
At 3:42 PM -0500 12/2/02, Stephen Black wrote:


I particularly like the claim that Jesus drove a Honda. Seems
reasonable to me.


You don't think that he had suffered enough?
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Re: behaviorism and attendance

2002-12-02 Thread Charlotte Manly
At 11:07 AM -0600 12/2/02, Paul Brandon wrote:

2.  We can rely on natural contingencies -- those inherent in the behavior itself and 
not requiring someone's planned intervention. Again, there are two categories:
   a.  Making attending reinforcing in its own right
   (lectures as 'dog-and-pony shows' -- see PowerPoint).
   b.  Assuming that attendance has or will acquire conditioned reinforcing
   properties through its association with better class performance
   and grades.
   or through a general conditioned reinforcing value of learning
   (acquiring new behavior has become a generalized conditioned
   reinforcer because it has been paired with many other reinforcers.

Because of the delay between attendance and its effect on learning and grades, the 
conditions for learning that attendance affects grades are far from ideal.  Perhaps it 
can be improved if after exams you identify questions that were only available by 
attending lecture.  This at least would provide specific feedback about the value of 
attendance and note-taking (compared to other exam-prep activities).

I don't currently require attendance in any of my courses.  One of my undergraduates 
mentioned to me that he works (nights, I think) and requiring attendance would provide 
that extra boost for him to come to class (as he knows he ought to do).  If I am 
remembering correctly which student it is (I have pairs of students who are 
confusable), then he has, since making that comment, become a more regular attendee.  
Still, it's a thought, although I lean less toward a requirement than for making it 
something for which I could award extra credit (the ol' discretion to increase grades 
a notch) so that all I would need to determine was who was attending regularly.

Speaking of what needs to be done to fulfill class requirements, I notice some new 
articles in the Chronicle, as well as an accompanying Colloquy topic 
(http://forums.chronicle.com/colloquy/read.php?f=1i=768t=768), on the lack of time 
spent studying by college students.  I also coincidentally happened to hear from a 
former TA for graduate stats about the student workload for stats last year.  The 
students were claiming it was (too) high, but when he polled them about how much time 
they spent outside of class, few spent more than nine hours a week, which apparently 
was less than they perceived it to be, but more than they had been accustomed to as 
undergraduates or perhaps even in some of their other classes.  Before anyone flames 
me about how much time that is (yes, up to 12-13 hours per week), let me say that I 
know it's high for a 3-credit class, and when I was an undergraduate (at a school 
which used course units, which were expected hours per week), most 9-unit classes (the 
approximate equivalent of 3 credits) were in fact about 8-9 hours, for me anyway, some 
were a little less, and everyone understood that some methods-heavy or project-heavy 
classes were actually more like 12 units, although not necessarily so rated.  We knew 
not to take two of those in the same term.  So in short, I wonder if students are 
gradually expecting that less and less is actually necessary in order to obtain a 
college degree, including, that attendance is not necessary to the purposes of college.

Charlotte
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Re: What would Jesus Drive?

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stephen Black wrote:

 On 2 Dec 2002, James Guinee wrote:
  Hey Louis, if Jesus would have driven a Christler, would an apostle
  have driven a Yugo? :)
 

 Heard on the Canadian People's Radio (the CBC) the other day:

Hey Comrade! That's the People's Republic of Soviet Canuckistan Radio,
according to Pat Buchanan. :-)
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Re: how to compare the data

2002-12-02 Thread sblack
On 2 Dec 2002 at 19:03, Hugh Foley wrote:

 Your biggest problem is that you used a 4-pt 
 scale. Had you kept the same structure as the original scale, I think 
 that a comparison would have been reasonable. To me, the issue goes 
 beyond the simple assignment of numbers to the scale points (which 
 could be open to challenge, even though everyone does so). With 4 
 points, a respondent cannot choose a mid-point, but is forced to one 
 side or the other. With 5 points, a respondent can choose a neutral 
 response. Thus, I cannot think of a way I could re-scale your data that 
 would allow me to treat the two studies as comparable.

Well, when logic and thought fail to solve the problem, it's time  for an experiment. 
Suppose (this being a thought experiment) someone 
asked subjects to rate various and sundry qualities, only some got to rate using a 
four-point scale, and others a five. Then one could 
examine the data to see what transformations, if any, could bring the means and SDs of 
the two scales into correspondence.  Of 
course, the answer could be none. And, of course, if you're going to go to all the 
trouble of doing the experiment, it might be easier just 
to re-do the original with a 5-point scale. 

The answer to that one is to turn the problem into the deeper one of the general case: 
what transformation will turn a mean derived from 
a scale of x points into a mean from a scale of y points? If I'm following Hugh 
correctly,  he'd predict that means from odd-numbered 
scales could be adjusted to fit means from other odd-numbered scales, and ditto for 
even-numbered scales. But you wouldn't be able to 
turn a mean from an odd scale into a mean from an even scale.

Has no one ever looked into this problem?

Stephen

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