http://www.amazon.com/Celsius-Sparkling-Orange-12-Ounce-Cans/dp/B001534R00/ref=sr_1_1/180-3537997-5340315?ie=UTF8qid=1390410744sr=8-1keywords=celsius+energy+drinks
Hmm see the problem
The price per ounce? The fact that it's ounce and not fl.oz?
On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:13, Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
howard.res...@dot.ny.govmailto:howard.res...@dot.ny.gov wrote:
Hmm see the problem
here.http://www.amazon.com/Celsius-Sparkling-Orange-12-Ounce-Cans/dp/B001534R00/ref=sr_1_1/180-3537997
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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:42 PM
Subject: [USMA:53511] Re: New product problem
The price per ounce? The fact that it’s ounce and not fl.oz?
On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:13, Ressel, Howard R (DOT
In US ounces I think it's still 128 isn't it? At least according to Google.
From: Martin Vlietstra [mailto:vliets...@btinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:21 PM
To: Ressel, Howard R (DOT); 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: RE: [USMA:53509] New product problem
This is London
Ahh indeed a good point for sure.
From: Martin Vlietstra [mailto:vliets...@btinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:37 PM
To: Ressel, Howard R (DOT); 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: RE: [USMA:53515] RE: New product problem
You missed my opening line This is London calling . I
Well it could also mean that more of their readers are serious about Science
and understand SI. Instead of dumbing down for the minority of their readers,
the ignorant WOMBATers, they may feel it’s time to smarten them up and cater to
a majority of our tech savvy us and international readers.
The beverage industry packaging is a mess, in my opinion. I am not referring to
the full mutl system labile but the actual primary product size.
The one and two liter bottles are as much a standard as the legacy 12 oz can
but newer sizes have been introduced on an off over the years and some
I am not sure the origins of this site, appears to be US but the focus is SI.
They have an area calculator and it's in cm. Many of the sample problems are in
meters.
http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/circle-area.html
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester,
to the nearest
thousands of a foot, I dare any contractor to build it that precise. All goes
back to the reliance on computers and forgetting about engineering judgment.
From: John M. Steele [mailto:jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 8:49 AM
To: Ressel, Howard R (DOT
Amen James.
-Original Message-
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
James Frysinger
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:44 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53571] Re: No Accent on lom in kilometer!
Gene,
This argument seems to arise
If I ever get some time I'll have to write him a letter, I think his
grandmother and my grandmother were friends in the Bronx or some such thing. I
know my parents have met him.
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
Remek Kocz
Sent: Wednesday, March 05,
We might not like it but American children do need to learn to speak both
languages. It would be better though if metric was primarily and English
secondary and I agree, a bit more background on when to use either or at least
what common practice is in the US. Anyone can teach how many inches
I noticed that on most of my kids stuff in schools here, Science is all metric.
From: Eric L Shuman [mailto:ericlshu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:52 PM
To: Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:53684] RE: Common Core Math
It's worth noting
What they should do is use the current SI-10 definitions of conversion vs.
substitution. The old Hard vs. Soft was very confusing and
B.7 Conversion versus substitution
Transitioning from traditional inch-pound units to SI requires changing
quantity values from one system to another. This can
Howard,
That looks like the size of an imperial pint (568.26 ml).
Phil
From: owner-u...@colostate.edumailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu
[mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:42 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53725] Strange
Personal editorial for the day:
We have to accept the fact that there are two “systems” in the world. For lack
of a better term, I’ll call it the scientific the vernacular.Many advocates
for SI and metric are scientist and engineers. We believe in precision and
accuracy. We, for the most
My thoughts exactly.
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
Harry Wyeth
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:23 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53860] Phil Chernack's message
I second what Phil wrote about not worrying about the minute; 5 K vs 5 km
I think you hit the nail on the head, when you reply to “all” on this group; it
goes to the group and to the sender. If you just hit reply it goes privately
to the sender. So this is probably a good reminder to everyone on the list (I
forget myself) to delete the original sender so he/she
I think you meant Harold not Howard.
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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
James
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:36 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53977] Re: Rejoining USMA
I don't see that it should matter to any
Probably a good time to thank Don for coordinating this list for all these
years, I think we sometimes forget he is the quite guy keeping it going and
thanks to Colorado State for hosting.
I agree, unless we hit some sort of server limit to the number of users, the
more the merrier even if
consider introducing
metrication legislation in YOUR state.
- Message from Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
howard.res...@dot.ny.govmailto:howard.res...@dot.ny.gov -
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:18:35 +
From: Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
howard.res...@dot.ny.govmailto:howard.res
We were discussing leadership and Napoleon at work today and it made me wonder
how much influence he had on Frances development and use of the metric system
anyone have some insight?
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
43,560
What we need to do is get the pharmacies on board with this and get them to
produce/disseminate a series of educational signs, flyers, inserts etc. a PR
campaign at the store level to educate customers on metric dosing. If the
campaign is targeted towards medicine and dosing safety then what
I agree Remek.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
43,560 square feet in an acre
5280 feet in a mile
16 ounces in a pound
128 ounces in a gallon
23 confused kids in a class
What could be simpler?
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu
I agree, you get more resistance to using metric if you force a change in our
language. Changes to language comes natural over time. No one knows what a
cubit is but every kid learns about cubits when they learn the story of Noah.
Didn’t change anything just one of those things you hear or
Wow I was in Toronto and saw very little if any US Customary, it was all
metric. I saw ad's and signs and products metrically only labeled. There is a
lot of construction and the newspapers talked about square meters and square
hectares of new space being added. I didn't check the real
[mailto:ezra.steinb...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 12:19 PM
To: Ressel, Howard R (DOT)
Cc: USMA
Subject: Re: [USMA:54365] RE: Canada's Wonderland
Great to hear that, Howard.
Did you pick up on which units people were using in their conversations in
various contexts (temperature, short
If I owned a company not sure I would violate the law just because someone says
they “wont enforce’ it but some might. It think the impact will be small but
it’s a start.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
43,560 square feet in
I listed as well and agree with your assessment, we have a local show here like
that and the host comes across very professional and unbiased, this guy sounded
very biased and unprofessional.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
Check this blog is now posted online:
http://www.csemag.com/single-article/hard-and-soft-metric-it-s-actually-conversion-and-substitution/72254fd4f2a649708febe1f7992ae317.html
It's from Consulting-Specifying Engineer and Pure Power
CFE Media LLC
(I have no affiliation)
Howard Ressel
Project
Hm I think Paul T,. coined WOMBAT as Way of Measuring Badly in America Today.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
43,560 square feet in an acre
5280 feet in a mile
16 ounces in a pound
128 ounces in a gallon
23 confused kids in a
Legacy is sometimes looked in a positive light.
Aka John Kennedys legacy was far reaching
(just an example assuming you liked him).
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
43,560 square feet in an acre
5280 feet in a mile
16 ounces in
When most of the worlds pilots use metric and only ours do not, it says more
about us than it does any alleged the actual error.
Dish and Fox are in disagreement so I don't get fox news at the moment, doesn't
seem like such a big loss.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530
I went into Two Guys about 1976 ish (I think I was 16, must have been since I
drove there and had my license) and saw a socket wrench set. It was on sale
for $14.99 but the price sticker (back when they still used them) said $4.99.
They sold it to me for that price and I got quite a bargain.
Just wondering why you didn't ask her to change the web site to read kg or
grams which, if I understand (but I may be wrong since I'm in the States) is
the only legal way to show it in the UK. I wonder how she would have responded
to that.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York
Remember that the pipe sizes are really nominal pipe sizes and the actual
inside diameter is probably not exactly either of the dimensions shown. It’s
more of a label to ensure similar pipes fit together. When we converted to
metric we just changed our pip labels to NPS since US industry was
Of course the pint issue matters but the spelling issue only matters a liter
bit.
(sorry it s Monday).
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
-Original Message-
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
NYSDOT never touched the idea of converting signs, only design of projects.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
Scott Hudnall
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:27 AM
I saw an Omnimax movie at the Science Center in Pittsburg over the weekend.
Slick animations and details of the invasion. Tom Brokaw was the narrator and
all distances were in kilometers. The movie is produced by N3D films. Their
website says they are in France but it was nice to see they
I think I have noticed that before.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
John M. Steele
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:38 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject:
I highly doubt the illegal immigrants are going to make this an issue.
Another factor is that they are more concerned about settling into their new
country than making waves. Many come from places were governments frown on
complaints against them and are not known to be places where private
This would be a case of substitution (vs. conversion) where in new rational
metric size is used for the value of the measurement for the item being
converted. While conversion maintains the original standard value (rounded
appropriately for accuracy and precision), substitution defines a new
If anything lets go after the drink industry in general. It's a mess now,
consistent drink sizes would be better for everyone.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu
I agree, there are different approaches to the problem. When it comes to
metrication should the laws and regulations lead the charge or lag them,
perhaps it's time they lag.
Lead with the law change first then everyone screams, change the law to meet
common practice after everyone has
I think I understand, did the Pharmacist convert the dosage to tablespoons? How
crazy is that give the dosage as stated. If a customer asked how many
tablespoons they should be selling them a $2 dosing cup. No parent is going to
object to that.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New
-10-05 15:54, Harry Wyeth wrote:
Thanks for the info. I was wondering about this very issue but haven't gotten
around to seeing the movie. I read the book and liked the SI usage. Bravo for
the movie producers!
HARRY WYETH
On 10/5/15 509:09, Ressel, Howard R (DOT) wrote:
Saw The Martian movie
I guess this is the first step, let's see if I get a response from one of his
staff. Sorry it scanned crooked.
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Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
1530 Jefferson Road, Rochester, NY 14623
(585) 272-3372 |
Saw The Martian movie last night, excellent geek movie and very much promotes
science and engineering but more importantly it's all SI. In my opinion
probably the best use of SI in a movie that I have ever seen. Not even a joke
or quip about using metric, just part of their natural
I wish the rest of the world would stand up to us and say we won’t accept non
SI any more.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
From: USMA [mailto:usma-boun...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Goodyear
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 7:05 AM
To:
Merry Christmas to those who celebrate and a happy healthy New Year to all.
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer
NYSDOT
1530 Jefferson Road
Rochester, NY 14623
585 272-3372
A very metric holiday to you and your family:
On the tenth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me
Ten watts
This would not be good. I’d be curious what the international sporting
commissions would say about this. Would records by Americans athletes not
count? Would the not be able to compete internationally? I’d hope that would
have a big influence on the NCAA’s vote.
Howard R. Ressel
Project
In the US is Cortina optimized for rudeness?
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
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c...@traditio.com
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 12:05
Or just drink tea!
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:49 PM
To: USMA List Server
Subject: [USMA 98] New York Times: "Don't Let the Metric System
I'm not sure what state but I doubt we have that law in NY. I routinely get
measured in kg and m but many specialties will still do it in English. I have
seen it all ways. Sometimes they do it in metric and use a chart to write it in
English and vise versa. I'll have to ask my Dr. about it
I'd be afraid some of our "way out there" candidates would claim that going
metric is a nefarious plot by ISIS to take down our government and perhaps we
should temporarily ban all use of metric words. Hope you sense the sarcasm.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
-Original
Did anyone catch the metric reference (or jab) on Better Call Saul?
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
New York State Department of Transportation
1530 Jefferson Road, Rochester, NY 14623
(585) 272-3372 | howard.res...@dot.ny.gov
www.dot.ny.gov
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Maybe I missed it but is this a Britt or Americana Australia or an Australian
overseas?
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 3:46 PM
To: USMA List
Had me going for a minute. French system? It’s SI System International not the
French system but alas it’s that good old 1st day of the 4th month.
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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From: USMA
t from one decade in the eighteenth
century (1790-1799) it was actually British scientists who led the development
work on the metric system, aided by the French Government because the British
Government were too busy undermining their own scientists.
Martin
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Cool, metric ice cream!
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 9:11 PM
To: USMA List Server
Subject: [USMA 172] eCreamery Uses the Metric System "Of
I received a draft Engineering Instruction the other day. The New York State
Department of Transportation is ending its transition back to US Customary
units and we have a metric phase out date (although I can't state it until
it's finalized). We still have a few metric legacy projects, there
Check out the line in the 4th paragraph.
http://www.enr.com/external_headlines/story?region=enr_id=29OQdH81Vbx7bMlohKxN8tIRh0NdK5ZoRLACZN0fM4ewHj6GYVYbbP6aGrfT_SuPpaESpHiXgQa7ES6b4LoM9UY9F1r1Tvdb_6nkRmGHMIlPlXOfU3D8CvDUBlQjrVwoA9eVpUjtEv7l9_gDYk8lGAfgZVQkhQrwA2m8Zs1lEcY*
Howard R. Ressel
Project
What you discuss is really an issue of conversion vs. substitution (as
discussed in the Annex of SI10) formerly known as hard and soft conversions.
The scientific values are conversions, scientifically accurate conversions
where rounding the number to a ‘cleaner’ number would be detrimental to
How do the culinary schools in the US teach cooking? Based on volume or weight
(mass)?
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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From: USMA [mailto:usma-boun...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday,
Sorry its off metric topic but related to the roundabout discussion, see the
first article.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/innovation/innovator/issue55/3dIssue/
Also maybe the next roundabout I design, Ill try to make it go clockwise vs.
coutnerclockwise. See wherethat gets me.
Howard Ressel
Is that why toilets swirl the other way in the other hemisphere?
Howard R. Ressel
Project Design Engineer
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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 3:27 AM
To: 'Peter
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