Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Moab Moab
from the article: Helium is extracted from deep underground, where deposits of the gas have built up. pray tell us, how did the helium deposits get there ? On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: The world faces an unimaginable fate: the demise of the helium

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Moab Moab
wikipedia1: the oil industry flares 150 × 10^9 cubic meters natural gas annually, wikipedia2: the concentration of helium in natural gas varies in a broad range from a few ppm up to over 7%. assume average 0,1% of flared gas is helium: 150 x 10^6 cubic meters goes to waste every year. that must

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Robert Lynn
Accumulated alpha particles from radioactive decay collecting in gas trapping rock formations. Basically a non-renewable resource after we have worked through available supplies of shale gas. Helium can be extracted from the atmosphere - about 5ppm, but will probably cost ~$5000/kg. Nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Sites
Yeah, and remember I was trying to achieve Boron-Hydrogen fusion. At the beginning of the PF announcement, Pons' and Flieshman suggested that the electrolysis over potential could induce pressures at the surface of the metal that are literally astronomical. I don't recall exactly, but it was

RE: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
This may have already been discussed here, but what are the prevailing theories that attempt to explain why there is so much helium trapped in natural gas formations? It makes no sense to me. What causes He to be trapped in these formations in first place and not somewhere else? I seem to recall

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:38 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: This may have already been discussed here, but what are the prevailing theories that attempt to explain why there is so much helium trapped in natural gas formations? The formations which trap

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread David Roberson
You performed some interesting experiments Chuck. I am always amazed at what can be done with minimum equipment when someone is curious and inventive. You seem to have run into a lot of the issues that I am facing, but that is the way to learn. The PF effect leaves me asking similar

[Vo]:The beginnings of ... not time travel, but present timeline manipulation

2012-09-24 Thread Jones Beene
The first photon was detected even before the other was created. The observed quantum correlations manifest the non-locality of quantum mechanics in spacetime. It takes a strong imagination to transpose this first tentative finding of Entanglement Between Photons that have Never Coexisted into a

Re: [Vo]:The beginnings of ... not time travel, but present timeline manipulation

2012-09-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jones, Hopefully your lack of mentioning a spoiler alert won't upset anyone here. ;-) But yes, this was a thoughtfull film. It possessed a decent ending, considering the unfortunate circumstances that the hero of this story found himself in. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

[Vo]:DGT tests to be published?

2012-09-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=1303p=9562#p9562 Dear drew, we do not know where Sterling Allen got this not-even-close-to-real info on his last report. Please be so kind to ask him as he has not contacted us since last March, when he payed a short visit in one of our

Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication

2012-09-24 Thread LORENHEYER
Maybe in 10 million yrs this civilization will have developed the highly sophisticated complex process by which the strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetic, gravitational forces can be altered or manipulated. It will require millions of yrs to develope a 'hole' complete working knowledge of the

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Teslaalset
Chuck, a few postings earlier in this e-mail thread, somebody pointed out you had done some works on the applied coin. He suggested part of the coin was bended. Can you confirm this? In my opinion this might be a crusial pre-processing if you did. Op maandag 24 september 2012 schreef David

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:23 AM 9/24/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: If Dr. Storms is right, we might produce helium from hydrogen in his cracks. Well, not if he is right, the conclusion Storms presents that PdD cold fusion generates helium is not speculative, it's solid and deserves, at this point, to be

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Producing the world's energy consumption with PdD cold fusion would produce roughly 900 metric tons of helium per year. In my book, I estimated 1,227 tons of helium per year. I talked to a variety of people and had them check the numbers.

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon!

2012-09-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I think there is evidence that cold fusion can increase the reaction rate of some conventional reactions. See Reifenschweiler. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Sites
Teslaalset, yes I can confirm that. First I would always wash and clean the coins as best as possible. Then using a hacksaw, I would make two cuts about a half inch into the coin and 1/8 inch apart. Then using needle nose pliers, you can just bend the tab up. That worked good for the ptree

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : (Chuck) Sites Effect

2012-09-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I think these are Chuck's first posts on usenet : 5/4/89 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=enfromgroups=#!topic/alt.fusion/BwPLHQ2lO TE ... Using these ideas, here is a basement physics experiment, I've tried (It's only sugjested as possible way to see cold fusion if B2H-- is doing as I

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : (Chuck) Sites Effect

2012-09-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:05 PM 9/24/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I think these are Chuck's first posts on usenet : 5/4/89 That would be 5/14/89

RE: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Hello Chuck, You have made an interresting experiment worth to try to repeat. Teslaalset and Dave are on it seems. Chuch, did you try with another salt than Borax and succeed on excess heat as you had with Borax ? Is Borax a key element ? Best regards, Arnaud Kodeck

Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication

2012-09-24 Thread fznidarsic
Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication LORENHEYER Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:38:07 -0700 Maybe in 10 million yrs this civilization will have developed the highly sophisticated complex process by which the strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetic, gravitational forces can be altered or manipulated.

Re: [Vo]:The beginnings of ... not time travel, but present timeline manipulation

2012-09-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:43:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] The first photon was detected even before the other was created. The observed quantum correlations manifest the non-locality of quantum mechanics in spacetime. In the actual paper they state The two other photons

Re: [Vo]:The beginnings of ... not time travel, but present timeline manipulation

2012-09-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:43:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] I wrote: Or in their terminology will be correlated. Let me rephrase that. The photons are correlated, but not entangled. Entanglement doesn't exist. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Sites
Hi Arnaud, Yes, I did try two other electrolytes; Boric Acid (H3BO3) was one, and Potassium Hydroxide (KOH). Mills was a proponent of the KOH and nickel and his shrunken hydrogen theory (the hydrino concept) was interesting. He put some work into, but I could never get it to work. The

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I just won a 0-30V 5A power supply on eBay. Now I need to save up for a coup'la nickels. (I really AM going to scoop up some free Borax!)

Re: [Vo]:Save the Balloon! - effect on nuclear decay of the chemical environment

2012-09-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:38 PM 9/24/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: I think there is evidence that cold fusion can increase the reaction rate of some conventional reactions. See Reifenschweiler. Well, no. That isn't cold fusion. It's LENR. That is, there are nuclear reactions that are known where the

RE: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:47 PM 9/24/2012, Arnaud Kodeck wrote: You have made an interresting experiment worth to try to repeat. Teslaalset and Dave are on it seems. Chuch, did you try with another salt than Borax and succeed on excess heat as you had with Borax ? Is Borax a key element ? The experimental

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread David Roberson
It might cost you more to scoop up some borax after driving than it would at the grocery. Congrats on the supply. My pencil lead electrode has held up all day without a problem. The key appears to keep some crystals of the electrolyte on the bottom of the container at all times.

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I don't want to frighten people away from trying things. Playing with electrochemistry can be a way to learn about it, and to start to get a sense for what has happened in the field. Chuck's experiences with things getting gunked up, for example. CF anodes (the electrode connected to the

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
How about a Hoffman tube to capture the hydrogen and a wall mart aerator for a fish tank to circulate it back up thru the electrolyte – the excess would escape but pure hydrogen could be obtained from a small plastic tube stuck up inside at the top of the Hoffman tube running down to a

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com I don't want to frighten people away from trying things. Playing with electrochemistry can be a way to learn about it, and to start to get a sense for what has happened in the field. I plan to run mine outside (either in the open, or under my

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: How about a Hoffman tube to capture the hydrogen and a wall mart aerator for a fish tank to circulate it back up thru the electrolyte – the excess would escape but pure hydrogen could be obtained from a small

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread David Roberson
I am running my experiment outside upon a glass table on an open porch. The thought of free hydrogen indoors concerned me. If your supply has a short circuit current adjustment then you may not need further protection. That is what I am using and there have been no problems thus far as I

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread David Roberson
Eric, have you heard the expression that you can lead a horse to water but not make it drink? He would probably refuse to consider your proposal. I am not sure that re circulating the hydrogen would make a great deal of difference to the loading since the electrolysis exerts a powerful force

Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have been seeking a constant current through the nickel versus a constant power into the system since the resistance of the electrolyte is dominate. High resistivity is not necessarily an issue, per se. In the Pd/D