Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

The history of OpenAI https://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-openai-company-chatgpt-elon-musk-founded-2022-12 On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 2:12 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > > Have you tried the text to image product >> >> https://openai.com/dall-e-2/ >> > > Yes! Very

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Terry Blanton wrote: Have you tried the text to image product > > https://openai.com/dall-e-2/ > Yes! Very interesting.

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Have you tried the text to image product https://openai.com/dall-e-2/ On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/humans-vs-robots-the-battle-reaches-a-turning-point/ar-AA1571if > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:20 AM Terry Blanton wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/humans-vs-robots-the-battle-reaches-a-turning-point/ar-AA1571if On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:20 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > Crucify it now. > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:18 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Not only intelligent but also prophetic. >> >> On Sun,

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Crucify it now. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:18 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > Not only intelligent but also prophetic. > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 3:51 AM Jonathan Berry > wrote: > >> I asked GPT chat to write a short sci-fi story, interesting result: >> >> In the year 2045, humanity had reached the

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Not only intelligent but also prophetic. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 3:51 AM Jonathan Berry wrote: > I asked GPT chat to write a short sci-fi story, interesting result: > > In the year 2045, humanity had reached the peak of its technological > advancement. The world was a utopia, with endless

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

I asked GPT chat to write a short sci-fi story, interesting result: In the year 2045, humanity had reached the peak of its technological advancement. The world was a utopia, with endless resources and a limitless supply of clean energy. But with great power came great temptation, and soon a group

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Here are two other astounding examples: Explain Al alignment, but write every sentence in the speaking style of a guy who won't stop going on tangents to brag about how big the pumpkins he grew are Al alignment refers to the problem of ensuring that an intelligent agent, such as an Al, acts in

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Similar article from The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/openai-chatgpt-writing-high-school-english-essay/672412/ On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:19 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > This thing also knows Japanese. It seems to know it about as well as it > knows English. > >

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

This thing also knows Japanese. It seems to know it about as well as it knows English.

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Another essay question. The responses are astounding. Describe the plot of "Macbeth" in sonnet format. "Macbeth" is a tragedy by William Shakespeare about a brave Scottish general named Macbeth who receives a prophecy from three witches that he will become King of Scotland. Driven by ambition

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Impact on education . . . Query: Describe Shakespeare's Sonnet 29. Shakespeare's Sonnet 29 is a poem in which the speaker laments their misfortunes and feelings of isolation, but finds solace in the thought of the loved one to whom the poem is addressed. The poem consists of 14 lines written in

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Terry Blanton wrote: Impact on education > Wow! >

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Impact on education https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04397-7 On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, 12:04 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > This thing is as good as your average tech support document written by a > human. Example: > > > How do you use the curl command? > > > > The curl command is a tool for

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

This thing is as good as your average tech support document written by a human. Example: How do you use the curl command? The curl command is a tool for transferring data from or to a server. It supports a number of protocols, including HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, and SMTP. To use curl, you need to

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

ChatGPT wrote: > The energy released in this dance, > Was harnessed to power our advance, > As a clean, endless source, > It's worth its weight in force, > Plasma fusion, the future of finance. > You can see this was generated by a program. It is slightly off-kilter. It sort of makes sense, but

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

Esa Ruoho wrote: i've been loving this. btw, why not ask it about cold fusion, Jed? I did ask it, after I posted this message. Here are some responses. Some of them are remarkable. What is cold fusion? Cold fusion is a hypothetical type of nuclear reaction that would occur at or near room

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Open access ChatGPT

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 8 Dec 2022 16:09:05 -0500: Hi, [snip]

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i've been loving this. btw, why not ask it about cold fusion, Jed? there's a macOS topbar / toolbar icon app that lets you click on the icon at the topbar, and start asking it questions. i've been asking it about free energy and helping me convert a bash script to python. the answers are pretty

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

The furnace is in the crawlspace, so I don't know if a leak from the flu would come into the house. It sure would if the furnace were installed in a closet in the house. Anyway, they replaced the whole kit and caboodle. I prefer it that way. I now have faith in the CO alarm, but not too much

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Did your old furnace have a closed combustion system with a separate > fresh air pipe and combustion gas exhaust? > They all do, as far as I know. I don't recall the model and it is now out the door. The new one is a Trane S8B1:

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

Did your old furnace have a closed combustion system with a separate fresh air pipe and combustion gas exhaust? I hope your mew finance does. That exhaust pipe SHOULD NOT LEAK. If it leaks a new furnaced may not resolve CO accumulation. Bob Cook --- From:

Re: [Vo]:Off topic, or maybe not

Plenty of people understand this. Don't drink the Imperialist Kool-Aid, people. WWIII means the utter end of a lot more than cold fusion research... On Monday, January 6, 2020, Chris Zell wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Defense_of_Democracies > > > > Does Israel have

RE: [Vo]:Off topic, or maybe not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Defense_of_Democracies Does Israel have ready-made lobbyist groups who are pushing for war and who might create any false news or false flag to achieve that? From: Jones Beene Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 10:02 AM To: vortex Subject: [Vo]:Off

Re: [Vo]:Off-topic: Greenland, Smilla and Gingerbread man

In reply to JonesBeene's message of Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:50:10 -0700: Hi, [snip] >The value ? … think Sudbury basin with gold plating ... > Yup, and that's not all. There's a chance that large meteorites create cracks in the crust that allow deep oil/gas to reach up to near the surface. Think

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

Quoting your reference, " When I checked Cheshire’s doctoral research, I discovered it was in belief systems. Somehow that seems fitting." Looks like another one bites the dust! Thanks.

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

Seems that might still be up for debate in some circles: https://voynichportal.com/2019/05/16/cheshire-reprised/ On 5/16/2019 9:26 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: The complete paper: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02639904.2019.1599566 On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:38 AM Terry Blanton

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

The complete paper: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02639904.2019.1599566 On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:38 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > Speaking of linguistics, The Voynich code has finally and really been > cracked. Can you believe it was written by Dominican nuns in a > proto-Romance

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

Speaking of linguistics, The Voynich code has finally and really been cracked. Can you believe it was written by Dominican nuns in a proto-Romance language. https://phys.org/news/2019-05-bristol-academic-voynich-code-century-old.html On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:20 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > I

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

I wrote: > AI does exceed human abilities in a narrow range of problems, such as > playing Go, recognizing faces, or determining that a young woman who shops > at Target is pregnant before her father realizes that fact. > I kid you not. See:

Re: [Vo]:Off topic: machine translation

Oh give us a break, Douglas. Yeah, the guy is a genius and all, but this should be titled "The Shallowness of Douglas Hofstadter and dozens of straw-man arguments." No one who knows the first thing about computers, AI, or machine translation would assert that it is remotely close to human-level

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Notre Dame, art curating and restoration

One revelation per day is all I can take. Harry On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 5:39 PM Terry Blanton And dinosaurs had feathers. > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 3:26 PM H LV wrote: > >> I didn't know Greek statues were originally painted. >> Fascinating. >> Harry >> >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:50 PM Jed

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And dinosaurs had feathers. On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 3:26 PM H LV wrote: > I didn't know Greek statues were originally painted. > Fascinating. > Harry > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:50 PM Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> Some comments by me about this: >> >> >>

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I didn't know Greek statues were originally painted. Fascinating. Harry On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:50 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Some comments by me about this: > > > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5967-le-myst%C3%A8re-des-cath%C3%A9drales/?postID=109274#post109274 > > Take-away message:

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And we have a 3D model accurate to 5 mm to rebuild from: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-andrew-tallon-notre-dame-cathedral-laser-scan-art-history-medieval-gothic/ https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/3d-maps-rebuild-notre-dame-fire-assasins-creed-13769593.php

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: climatologist Judith Curry testified this month

AMEN On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 9:06 AM H LV wrote: > This month before congress climatologist Judith Curry argued for a > pragmatic approach to climate change based on her assesment of the actual > uncertainties and confidence levels contained in the IPCC reports. (Video > is about 5 minutes) >

Re: [Vo]:off topic computer violated

The change is that websites and apps are now able to send notifications.  On the standard web browsers such as Edge, Safari, Chrome and Explorer this can only happen with websites if you click 'Yes' when the website asks if it can send notifications.  I have allowed Facebook to send

Re: [Vo]:off topic - This could be where it all began

LV wrote: As with photos of celebrities from decades ago, one wonders if these old > galaxies are still around and how they look. ;-) > They are ready for their close-up. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:off topic - This could be where it all began

As with photos of celebrities from decades ago, one wonders if these old galaxies are still around and how they look. ;-) On Fri, Nov 16, 2018, 12:45 PM Jones Beene > Interesting story today for anyone looking for Universal answers... such > as where are we, relatively speaking ? > > The galaxy,

Re: [Vo]:[off topic]Rpi

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Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Boston Dynamics latest robot looks less humanoid

I hope others watch the following videos of the Atlas series of robots too. Imagine what the next generation will be like powered by LENR instead of batteries. AA On 4/2/2017 12:25 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is the latest Boston Dynamics robot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC White rice does not make you fat!

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:49:17 -0400: Hi Jed, I saw a quote from a paper written be a biochemist, who contended that "trans" fats block the transport of fats between the cell wall and the mitochondria, thus preventing fat metabolism. This would appear to result

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

Jed, That movie is terrific. And also hilarious. The reaction of the monkey is exactly the same as all of has seen many times in humans. It is getting absolutely untenable anymore to deny the lack of sentience in some of the animal world with profound implications for humanity. I'm quite

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

Here is the full video that segment is taken from: http://www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_do_animals_have_morals?language=en

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Returning to this off-topic subject -- Here is an astounding video showing the behavior of a Capuchin monkey. She gets upset because she is treated unfairly. The concept of "sentience" in A.I. has been defined as being self-aware. That is, being aware that you are an individual; that other

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

H LV wrote: I wonder if the cat felt surprised, annoyed and/or amused after > realizing the glass had been moved. > I am pretty sure she was surprised, based on her reaction. If the video had lasted longer we might be able to read other emotions, especially by watching the

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

I wonder if the cat felt surprised, annoyed and/or amused after realizing the glass had been moved. harry

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

Nice work, Jed, and also the comments of Vibrator are right on. As an old retired biologist,it has been heartening to see the neurosciences admitting to higher neural and mental functioning in animals, including the near-human intellectual and cognitive achievements you noted in the cat.

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Cool topic, cognitive science is one of my interests. I think that at the stage we're at, the outstanding technical challenges aren't so much quantitative as qualitative - we need to crack the Hard Problem, for an emergent, bottom-up intelligence rather than a "brute forced" but top-down Turing

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC The enigmatic wisdom of Deepak Chopra

This random one, I liked..., "Awareness grows through subtle joy." and here's my koan haiku, "An ancient mind. Rich jumps in. Plop!" On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > Jed sez: > > > > > Some say artificial intelligence is

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC The enigmatic wisdom of Deepak Chopra

Jed sez: > Some say artificial intelligence is not yet a thing. Maybe so, > but we now have artificial wisdom. Get your random fictional > Deepak Chapra quote here: > > http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ Hah! Let me do one better. A little haiku ditty straight out of my own randomized

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Japanese Members of Parliament are spry!

Jed sed: > It is good to know that national leaders keep in shape. > I'll bet they could beat the crap out of the U.S. Senate. Yesterday I watched a great documentary on the life and films of Stanley Kubrick. The following classic comes to mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Japanese Members of Parliament are spry!

My apologies to Mr. Beene. I c he already beat me to the punchline. ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Japanese Members of Parliament are spry!

From: Jed Rothwell Ø Japanese Members of Parliament may be middle aged, but they are spry! See this brawl yesterday, which was featured on the 7 o'clock NHK national news: "Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Japanese Members of Parliament are spry!

Polish parliament. Or history repeats itself. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Ruins of Japanese Emperor's WWII bombshelter

A translation of the broadcast is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyokuon-h%C5%8Ds%C5%8D#Full_text It is hard to understand in English, and very hard to understand in Japanese, because it is in highflow pseudo-ancient court Japanese. Many people hearing it did not understand until the

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Ruins of Japanese Emperor's WWII bombshelter

Thanks for the translation Jed. I lived in Japan with my parents back around 1954-56. I reckon I was around 2 years when we moved there. It would have been a good age to learn a 2nd language - if only I lived there longer. I am reminded of the 1980s TV Miniseries Shogun, staring Richard

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Everyone in Japan has a smartphone -- everyone!

My browser couldn't translate. Synopses please? Ol' Bab On 11/4/2014 8:24 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://amenities-news.com/wp/?p=8345 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Everyone in Japan has a smartphone -- everyone!

David L. Babcock olb...@gmail.com wrote: My browser couldn't translate. Synopses please? You can run the text through: https://translate.google.com/ Anyway, the gist of it is that this is a photograph from the wildlife photographer of the year contest at the natural history Museum in London,

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Everyone in Japan has a smartphone -- everyone!

Great photo Jed, BTW, when we were still living in Taiwan I had a pet monkey steal my glasses. I was about five or six years old at the time. I watched him chew on the frames. I think he was trying to determine whether it was edible or not. My mother saw the swipe as it happened. She freaked

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Everyone in Japan has a smartphone -- everyone!

Also further down there is a video of a cell phone playing a video of worms, many frogs come up and try to eat the videoed worms. Quite impressive. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Great photo Jed, BTW, when we were still

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Everyone in Japan has a smartphone -- everyone!

From John, Also further down there is a video of a cell phone playing a video of worms, many frogs come up and try to eat the videoed worms. Quite impressive. This reminds me of yet another animal intelligence story. If you have ever seen the PBS NATURE program titled A Murder of Crows get

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

On 10/10/2014 09:46 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Seriously. See: http://korea-dpr.com/biography.html I have not seen any mention of this in the mass media. - Jed He's not there on the wayback machine, either. https://web.archive.org/web/20140208052408/http://korea-dpr.com/biography.html Craig

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

Ah. Good point. Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: He's not there on the wayback machine, either. https://web.archive.org/web/20140208052408/http://korea- dpr.com/biography.html

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

They haven't removed his visage or news of his existence from the Korea Friendship Sites yet. Robert Dorr On 10/10/2014 7:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah. Good point. Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: He's not there on the wayback machine,

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

Looks like his sister tried a coup d'etat: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/north-korean-leader-kim-jongun-flees-after-attempted-coup-by-sister-30652068.html

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:26 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: How many ebola virus can you fit into a droplet in a sneeze or cough??? Does it matter? It takes only one. WHO contradicted CDCP by saying that you can get ebola from a sneeze:

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

On 10/09/2014 10:40 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: WHO contradicted CDCP by saying that you can get ebola from a sneeze: http://www.naturalnews.com If it's in saliva, then why wouldn't it be in a sneeze? Craig

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

[mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:26 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: How many ebola virus can you fit into a droplet in a sneeze or cough??? Does it matter

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

There is lots of evidence that this can get past biohazard containment procedures: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/07/after-nurse-contracts-ebola-spanish-health-workers-raise-concerns-about-protective-equipment/ If this strain is so infectious that this is so, then

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

The big problem is the virus can live on surfaces that have been in contact with bodily fluids. A would-be suicide bomber could do enormous damage during one day on the NYC subways. Someone has to be offering life insurance policies against death by Ebola but I can't imagine how they could set

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 8, 2014 10:26 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season There is lots of evidence that this can get past biohazard containment procedures: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/07/after-nurse-contracts

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 8, 2014 10:26 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season There is lots of evidence that this can get past biohazard containment procedures: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/07/after-nurse-contracts-ebola-spanish-health-workers

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 8 Oct 2014 23:40:42 -0400: Hi, Is it possible that most people have a natural immunity to the virus that prevents them from getting the disease? Those few that are not immune then would be the ones that have a low survival rate. If this were the

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Additionally some people get it but are apparently symptom-less beyond a light touch of the flu. This could very well be a nutrition issue, such that those with insufficient nutrition fail. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed,

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Hopefully. Or maybe not. If they are ambulatory and have a light touch of the flu they are spreading the virus to people who are not so immune for a lot longer duration than if they started exhibiting unmistakable symptoms of Ebola. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:45 PM, John Berry

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

. How many ebola virus can you fit into a droplet in a sneeze or cough??? -mi From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:53 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season Hopefully. Or maybe not. If they are ambulatory and have

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: There are two rays of hope here: 1) That the high rate of infection in Africa will allow evolution toward greater ambulatory transmission of the virus. This sounds nonsensical at first but you need to understand

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

I wrote: There was this relevant detail in an NYT story about the man with Ebola who flew into Dallas: ... To update the number of people who may have come into contact with the fellow from West Africa with Ebola who flew into Dallas, it appears we're talking about ~ 100 people rather than

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

I wrote: Apparently the apartment has not yet been disinfected, because Texas is having trouble finding a contractor to do the work. ... Some more interesting details from the article I forgot to link to [1]: - The number of ~ 100 people who may have come into contact with the fellow

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Finally! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-symptoms-prompt-hospitals-to-brace-for-patients-amid-flu-season/ Hospitals brace for patients with Ebola worries People hear about flu symptoms, they're not paying attention, they haven't been near anybody with Ebola or in an Ebola country, they haven't

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Now it turns out this patient #1 knew he was infected.. and just wanted world-class, spare-no-expense treatment in the US. I can't blame him. Time to cancel travel visas and ban non-humanitarian travel from infected countries. Some interesting tips and info at this site.. http://ebolaready.com/

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

The US is susceptible to a Ebola outbreak because a large percentage of the population is health care adverse. This grope of poor people has no health insurance or cannot afford the expense of a long term hospital stay because of sickness. This substantial segment of the population will ignore a

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage and containment facilities. - Reply message - From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 2:44 PM

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This was written in august before the current case of Ebola in the United Sates but it compares Ebola to other diseases which spread more easily. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/ebola-worrying-disease quote Far more worrying are diseases that spread exponentially: if one

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

It seems that Mega doses of Vitamin C are very promising: http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2014/09/combating-ebola-how-to-fight-ebola-with-vitamin-c-ascorbic-acid.html Vitamin C is needed to make collagen that keeps your blood on the inside. Ebola causes Vitamin C to drop to Zero until the

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Murata Cheerleaders debut!

Jed sez: Apropos of nothing here are some quintessential Japanese dancing unicycle robots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82rL4xjFC_g Like much of modern Japanese culture these are cute (kawaii) and kind of creepy. It's all Dean Kamen's fault! :-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Seems the human-infectious form of Ebola was patented back in 2010 by a US government lab (CDC): http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en Claims: 1. An isolated hEbola virus comprising a nucleic acid molecule... 2. An isolated hEbola virus having Centers for Disease Control

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

I imagine that the hEbola virus is build, and not a natural variant... Just make a similar one and you get around the patent I suspect that some of the claims are not defendable since it is not clear enough for replication ... especially (5) which is not self evident but is a process in itself.

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

Couldn’t resist this, on a balmy day … Looks like Gilead, the big Pharma located not far from here - which conspiracy-theory pundits say is poised to become the IG Farben of the New World Order, seems to have its foot in the ebola door, as expected.

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

I don't take conspiracy, except the one of stupidity seriously, because the only horrors that are being planned are public and popular. however if you imagine that some conspiracy is using a disease to establish a control of our freedoms and destinies, you should not use the software of WW2, V

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

You want conspiracy??? http://exopolitics.blogs.com/breaking_news/2014/08/for-ebola-they-built-drive-through-gas-chambers.html Basically the PCR test is 100% effective at registering positive when tested on someone who has Ebola. It has never been tested on someone without Ebola. So does it

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The patient in Texas was put in one of the available hospital isolation units and the 3 paramedics have been put into a 21 day isolation at home. But the CDC admits that this patient may have infected others. How long would it take to fill all the isolation units, doctors are infected, and all the

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There are two rays of hope here: 1) That the high rate of infection in Africa will allow evolution toward greater ambulatory transmission of the virus. This sounds nonsensical at first but you need to understand evolutionary medicine and optimal virulence. There is a good chance the virus will

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Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: It was just two weeks ago Obama said it would be unlikely that Ebola would reach the US. Well, cases were already brought here, deliberately, to Atlanta. As they should have been. If you took that to mean, not a single case of Ebola will reach the US

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On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-spreading-in-west-africa.html There was this relevant detail in an NYT story about the man with Ebola who flew into Dallas: Officials said Wednesday that they believed

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They could instill confidence quite simply by issuing the following statement: As President Obama has declared this to be a national security emergency, by executive order $10 billion of the DoD budget has been reallocated to contain the contagion. $5 billion will go to Eiken Chemical Co. for

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I think humanity is closing in on the realization that all of this pulsed electromagnetic radiation ( 2 billion watts or more in the US) is actually bad for us. The '70s heralded Ebola with the advent of microwave point to point communications in Africa communities. I think they are cooking the

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James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Early symptoms of Ebola are flu-like and it is contagious during these flu-like symptoms. Well, they are flu-like but far more severe. Once the person comes down with a full blown case, no one would confuse it with ordinary flu. It is more like the 1918

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ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I think humanity is closing in on the realization that all of this pulsed electromagnetic radiation ( 2 billion watts or more in the US) is actually bad for us. That is not likely to be causing the epidemic in Africa. It did not cause the 1918 pandemic.

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