Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
about Enron, read http://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Patterns%20of%20Denial%204l%20fin.pdf it was sincere self delusion leading to perceived as rational honest fraud, and not simple scam. 2012/7/25 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com The equivalent to Enron's Smartest Guys movie about the

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
Great article. about Glass-Seagle act, it seems more complex. First of all, none of the crash that happens were linked to such mix explicitly. second it is no more possible to factually separate the two activities, since there are financial tools that allow to get around the regulation. Anyway

Re: [Vo]:Malware ...Strikes Iranian Nuclear Facility and plays- AC/DC

2012-07-25 Thread Michele Comitini
There are two funny considerations on the issue: 1. While Iran govt is anti-American it buys licences of the most easy to infect operating system around. 2. Siemens is claimed to design and implement also the control system of Rossi's *-Cats, competitors could take advantage of such a weakness.

Re: [Vo]:Thinking about Rossi

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
you seems too negative. I don't care much about Rossi claims, more about his claims coherence, and mostly about his gravitational influence on neigbours. NI, DGT, seems to be influenced by his gravitational attraction. Once you accept that he have something heavy enough to influence others, you

Re: [Vo]:The September Surprise

2012-07-25 Thread James Bowery
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Without the forceful intervention of Hank Paulsen and Ben Bernanke, Main Street America would have gone through extraordinarily hard times. Amazing that Iceland bailed out homeowners rather than the central bankers and its

[Vo]:books

2012-07-25 Thread fznidarsic
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Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: about Enron, read http://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Patterns%20of%20Denial%204l%20fin.pdf it was sincere self delusion leading to perceived as rational honest fraud, and not simple scam. I agree it was self-delusion. I think that is more

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
2012/7/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: about Enron, read http://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Patterns%20of%20Denial%204l%20fin.pdfhttp://www.princeton.edu/%7Erbenabou/papers/Patterns%20of%20Denial%204l%20fin.pdf it was sincere self

Re: [Vo]:The September Surprise

2012-07-25 Thread David Roberson
It is not possible to know what would have happened if the intervention had not occurred. Any suggestion otherwise is pure speculation. As in what would things be like now had Hitler never been born to start WWII. As far as I know an even worse guy might have come along that was smart

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread David Roberson
There was actual fraud in the case of Enron from what I have seen. These guys manipulated the system to drive up energy costs. I am sure that there were many honest employees that had nothing to do with the deception, but this was not just ignorance at work. Dave -Original

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
what is said in the article is that Enron bosses where so sure theiy were right, while at teh same time acting like bandits, so that the both have stolen the pension fund, yet kept their shares in their bankrupted company. ins science I've recently seen similar fraud, for the sake of good,because

[Vo]:Reaction Engines Successfully Tests Precooler

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Blanton
The critical component for the engine that does mach 5 in the atmosphere and mach 25 outside. Press release: http://goo.gl/QEODS Main site: http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/ T

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The equivalent to Enron's Smartest Guys movie about the 2008 collapse is Inside Job: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645089/ However, it is more of a documentary than a drama. Yeah. I liked that one too. It was more factual than Too Big to Fail but Too

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Chemical Engineer
They seem like smart, good people who accidentally brought about a disaster They did it to make more money for themselves and the bank. They were obviously ignorant to risk they created for everyone and we are all still paying for it and will be for years to come. For that, they should have

Re: [Vo]:What the DOD gave to Rossi?

2012-07-25 Thread Axil Axil
1. Andrea Rossi July 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=666cpage=5#comment-286670 Dear Ecco Liberation: We are studying how to make a direct conversion into electric power, therefore we are probing all the possibilities. We are far from the solution, but this is

Re: [Vo]:What the DOD gave to Rossi?

2012-07-25 Thread Chemical Engineer
Don't you think he would have signed an NDA with the military and stop the internet blabber? Raytheon does not do this... On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Axil Axil wrote: 1. Andrea Rossi July 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=666cpage=5#comment-286670 Dear

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: They seem like smart, good people who accidentally brought about a disaster They did it to make more money for themselves and the bank. Well, not everyone in the story was a banker. Some were government officials. Paulson was an official who had

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Axil Axil
At the most fundamental level, what makes capitalism work is trust. When a lender provides capital to a borrower he trusts that the borrower will repay the debt. Now a days, the lender takes out an insurance policy (credit default swap) to guaranty the payment of the debt from a well-capitalized

[Vo]:A plague of plagiarism in European academia

2012-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Walter Faxon sent me this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/18962349 QUOTE: The problem is deep-rooted and systemic. Professors in Germany tend to work alone, with their subordinate research groups. Most will not criticise other professors, and they do not discuss problems, full stop. There is no

RE: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Goldes
Sanford Weill, of all people, has made the news today by advocating breaking up large financial institutions. Ex-Citi chief Weill urges bank break-up Financial Times http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/feaa9cf0-d65f-11e1-ba60-00144feabdc0.html#axzz21ejh0BPr This can could change the conversation

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Chemical Engineer
Jed, I realize they were not all bankers. At least arrest the bankers for negotiating a worthless instrument(s)... If they were a captain of a ship in the miliary that sank, they could call for their own court martial: Most navies have a standard court-martial which convenes whenever a ship is

[Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://emdrive.com/ Latest news July 2012 An English translation of the 2010 Chinese paper, together with unpublished test results have been obtained. The last line of the paper confirms that experimental thrust measurements have been made at 1kW input power. The unpublished test results show a

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I realize they were not all bankers. At least arrest the bankers for negotiating a worthless instrument(s)... Unfortunately, most of them were not committing any crime. CDOs were not subject to any oversight or regulations in 2008. You cannot make

RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Jones Beene
Nice - if true. The big plus is the connection to Ni-H, which is far from obvious. Even if the emdrive violates one or more physical principles (Laws) such as conservation of momentum, it may still be subject to CoE. But the fact that it works at all, if it does, gives plausible support to the

Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread David Roberson
This is a remarkable achievement if it can be proven to perform as suggested. I have a problem with the concept of force generation without ejecting mass(or energy). The continual application of a device such as this will result in a significant amount of kinetic energy along with momentum

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
...smart, good people? smart, maybe. Good, NO way. Henry Paulson was Goldman top brass for a long time, being CEO of GS from 1998 to 2006. Net worth: $700million. A company where five managing directors call their clients muppets in the past year. according to whistleblower Smith. ...Muppet is

Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:10:17 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] This is a remarkable achievement if it can be proven to perform as suggested. I have a problem with the concept of force generation without ejecting mass(or energy). The continual application of a

Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread David Roberson
That is true Robin. And if momentum can be imparted upon the vacuum then perhaps this is a hint that warp drives might be possible. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 25, 2012 6:23 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Yeah, therefore it is important to have the legislative and the jurisdictive on the payroll. The fact that it is not corrected, tells You a lot about how rotten the 'system' is. Bill Black calls this whole syndrome within the financials 'control fraud', but it is bigger than that. Think of 

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Axil Axil
*I assume that Romney and the so-called masters of the universe are sincere. From my point of view, they want another chance to destroy the economy. They think they are the experts and it must be someone else's fault, or it was caused by too many regulations, even though CDOs were not regulated.*

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Thanks Jones, I was thinking about jumping in but you put it much more succinctly than I could have managed! Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I think the claims of time dilation and anomalous decay rates also support this claim of thrust because we are upsetting the normal perpendicular relationship between 3D space and time and it is by this method we are indirectly accumulating thrust in a biased manner - a specific vector instead

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Corrected link http://scienceblog.com/19440/alternate-theory-for-hydrino-based-on-casimir-cavities/ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? Nice - if

Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: As I have suggested in the past, the only way this could work is if momentum is imparted to the vacuum itself, i.e. to the universe as a whole, thus allowing momentum to be conserved. Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: that is the problem with that theory. people are not realist by nature, but because of their own investment and their dependencies on others beliefs. I am reminded of Upton Sinclair's remark that it is difficult to get

RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
“Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this.” I think that’s what the zero-point field and Casimir effect is all about… just because this generation chooses to call it by a different name doesn’t mean it’s different. -Mark Iverson From: Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?

2012-07-25 Thread Axil Axil
http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.027202 The Casimir force arises because of quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field in the space between two conducting plates. The Drude model predicts that low-frequency fluctuations play no role in the Casimir force and are

[Vo]:FYI: Researchers control chemical reactions in individual atoms...

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Iverson
Researchers devise a means to control chemical reactions in individual atoms http://phys.org/news/2012-07-chemical-reactions-individual-atoms.html They're getting closer to doing the experiment I suggested over a year ago. In their experiments, the team used a magnetic field to isolate

Re: [Vo]:Too Big to Fail movie portrays institutional disaster

2012-07-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
BIG QUOTE ! exactly what I have observed in finance, research, and IT. what Roland Benabou said is even harder since the quote might be : it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his perceived wealth depends upon his not understanding it. 2012/7/26 Eric Walker

[Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...

2012-07-25 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
FYI: Terahertz radiation can induce insulator-to-metal change of state in some materials http://phys.org/news/2012-07-terahertz-insulator-to-metal-state-materials.ht ml the researchers used an antenna-like structure called a split ring resonator to concentrate the electric field of a THz