Humour is an act of aggression.
A German academic sees humour as an act of aggression, and says that people
who make others laugh think that they are higher up the social ladder than
their audiences.
Helga Kotthoff, of the Frieburg University of Education, claims that
dominant people exploit the
2011/12/16 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY is more
likely than not a male. I would guesstimate that the odds on this
speculation are 70/30 that MY is a man.
Are MY two people ? Mary - y (=and) - Ugo ?
Humor is an sadly complex and intricate subject, I have studied is an
amateur, starting with Bergson's La rire In my former newsletter Info
Kappa I wrote
two editorials, 358 and 359 about Humor. This theory is very important I
think: http://www.pyrrhichouse.co.uk/book-info/alastair-clarke.php
Hi,
On 15-12-2011 19:13, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I wonder if MY is taking lessons from Mr. Krivit.
I wonder if MY is one and the same Mr. Krivit.
Could that explain the secrecy in the identity game?
B.t.w. for those who say I do the same thing, look at the characters in
my
- Original Nachricht
Von: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com, peter.heck...@arcor.de
Datum: 16.12.2011 00:26
Betreff: [Vo]:Possible Proof of Peter's theory of gravity and New Matter Accrual
Peter, your thoughts about matter sucking ZPE and
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.comwrote:
There is an example that is interesting.
Gravitational wave detection.
As a practical field was created more than 40 years ago and no detection
has been done yet.
Doesn't fit the question though, since the
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any examples of pathological science persisting 20 years without
being properly debunked?
Not to my knowledge. Unless you count things like water memory,
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Contrary to popular argument, science actually celebrates novelty and
revolution, and scientists are not afraid of disruptive experiments;
they
crave them.
This is complete bullshit. Most
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Geocentrism took over 1000 years to debunk.
But considering it was accepted by the mainstream, it was not a
pathological science.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY is more
likely than not a male. I would guesstimate that the odds on this
speculation are 70/30 that MY is a man.
Who the hell cares?
But, what about transmutation in general? Even without WL theory, there
should be an explanation for that.
2011/12/16 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium
*
Technetium* ([image: play]
LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible?
If we see physics as a statistical phenomenom, then energy is another
word for probability.
So, Low Energy reactions are low probability reactions - reactions that
dont happen frequently ;-)
It is therefore improbable to get energy out of
On 2011-12-16 14:49, Peter Heckert wrote:
LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible?
What about LENR - Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions? Personally I Like
it more than Low Energy.
Cheers,
S.A.
On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:35 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
But, what about transmutation in general? Even without WL theory,
there should be an explanation for that.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
I have my own take on that, my deflation fusion theory. If I had
not spent so much
I have noticed that McKubre often uses LANR: Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions.
mic
2011/12/16 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com:
On 2011-12-16 14:49, Peter Heckert wrote:
LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible?
What about LENR - Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions?
On 11-12-15 11:46 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Were those experiments done *before* or *after* onset of rigor mortis?
Fresh cadavers-- and it was quite a while ago for the study I
remember.
On 11-12-16 03:20 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY is
more likely than not a male. I would guesstimate that the odds on this
speculation are 70/30 that MY is a man.
I already pointed this out, but I did it in a jocular way, and she
On 11-12-16 04:29 AM, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 15-12-2011 19:13, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I wonder if MY is taking lessons from Mr. Krivit.
I wonder if MY is one and the same Mr. Krivit.
NO, no way.
When it comes to science, Krivit's something approximating an idiot.
That's hysterical. I would get one if he were not flipping the bird. I
don't like vulgarity.
- Jed
On 11-12-16 06:07 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
mailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY
is more likely than not a male. I would guesstimate that the odds
on this
From Mr. Lawrence:
However, I do have an observation: When a woman (or apparent woman) shows up,
she gets *far* more responses to her posts than a man (or apparent man) would
by posting the same sort of material. So, being a woman on the fringe lists
is enough to garner an awful lot of
From Josh:
My guess is that he knows it will irk the believers even more if he ignores
Rossi, than if he dumps on him. It seems to be working.
Keep guessing Joshua.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
from 22pssi
Celani has news of a new experiment that has been going on for a
couple of weeks (I hope it details in some detail as soon as possible)
to him as a very interesting results, but still in its infancy,
some of his reactions has exceeded 1400 watts per gram of nickel,
which is higher
Changing the acronym LENR to 'Lattice Enabled' is an improvement over 'Low
Energy'- but CANR can also be altered be more relevant to the mechanics of
Ni-H reactions, as best we can understand them: CANR = Casimir (or cavity)
Assisted Nucleon Reactions.
First, the common thread between deuterium
Good find. The Googleese is a bit hard to understand, was an extra bit at
the end too where Celani says Dekaflion have now far surpassed Rossi. My
minor edits to translation:
According to Celani the reaction between Ni and H would be catalyzed by
PHONONS http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonone .
Uhhun. Reminds me of Steorn's T-shirts. Sean McCarthy wore them at
demos. One read COE vs CEO.
I found a cartoon showing the infamous shirt:
http://i.imgur.com/zKDlK.jpg
Once again, Rossi's story is like a well known scammer's.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Jed Rothwell
Exciting times.
If these Celani replications are accurate, and MIT has been witnessing Arata's
excess heat, then expect a peer-reviewed paper from someone in the near future.
If the patent work gets muddled due to decades of work by too many players,
the courts may have their hands full for
From: Susan Gipp
Axil: I would guesstimate that the odds on this speculation are 70/30 that
MY is a man.
Are M.Y. two people ? Mary - y (=and) - Ugo ?
Hmmm ... Out of curiosity - did Ugo Fano (RIP) have a son? - or are you just
speculating about naming possibilities...
Come to think of
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
It's very difficult in the case of acupuncture to do blank controls; you
know when someone sticks a needle in you.
Yes, which makes testing sticking needles in you very difficult to test.
But traditional Chinese
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
As it happens, once breast cancer has metastasized into the bones it's
considered stage 4, incurable by conventional means, so she may not have
missed much by failing to have it properly diagnosed...
It used to
Robert
* Before the courts determine a victor, who will the people identify as
the inventor? I believe that it may just come down to branding. So, if
Nickel Hydrogen really takes off, who gets the credit?
The first Ni-H device to achieve significant excess energy ( 10 watts
continuous)
On 2011-12-16 16:43, David ledin wrote:
some of his reactions has exceeded 1400 watts per gram of nickel,
which is higher than that of uranium fission in the “cladding”
Zirconium. Although Celani you hear talk about “technological
reality”, as it has exceeded 200% yield for two weeks.
Well,
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Arent there better words?
I have addressed this question here before, from the point of view of
linguistics. It does not matter what you call something. People will know
what you mean. See Wittgenstein's discussion of meaning: Don’t ask for the
My children can buy a new MP3 album from iTunes.
If they missed something on TV, they can pause the DVR and rewind.
The words may eventually be elimanated, but the next generation is adopting
them without care of origin.
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:43:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold
That was report from a layman. Gamma rays are bad for most people.
2011/12/16 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
On 2011-12-16 16:43, David ledin wrote:
some of his reactions has exceeded 1400 watts per gram of nickel,
which is higher than that of uranium fission in the “cladding”
At 09:06 AM 12/16/2011, Robert Lynn wrote:
Celani says that the Greeks of today have passed
Defaklion Rossi, from the technological point of
view. [Editor's note. others believe that
Defkalion has put together a nice frame and a
beautiful body ... but do not have the engine].
Celani's
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
As Stan Szpak says, scientists believe whatever you pay them to believe.
Nice broad brush indictment which is mostly wrong. Consider Jonas Salk as
an example -- he gave the world the Salk polio vaccine without royalties
and without a patent.
He is
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Normally I encourage people keep reading when they encounter difficulties
and are confused, but in your case perhaps it was best to stop.
Robust and credible results would not require anyone to read long and
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The first Ni-H device to achieve significant excess energy ( 10 watts
continuous) and to run for a year in OU mode, and which was completely
verified by NASA, and Haldeman at MIT - was the Thermacore reactor, based
on Mills’ theory and invented by
From Jed:
...
Terminology is often inaccurate and usually a generation behind. We often
pick a word for something new that describes the older object better than
the new one. Because there isn't a word for the new thing. ...
This is why many (myself included) have felt that recent attempts,
WHOA !
Looks like the Celani report is in error. A reporter is in hot water.
Essentially most of it is invented.
There will be a retraction soon.
From Robert:
The words may eventually be elimanated, but the next generation is adopting
them without care of origin.
But our generation is just as guilty of committing the same type of crimes.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
What happened to these men and their device? How can a functional generator
fail to be mass produced all these years later?
On Dec 16, 2011, at 13:15, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Robert
Ø Before the courts determine a victor, who will the people identify as
the inventor? I
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Robust and credible results would not require anyone to read long and
convoluted papers numbering in the thousands.
So you are looking for short, well-written, and highly convincing papers?
Most people I know would say these two fit the bill:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
What happened to these men and their device?
I do not know what happened to those people. I lost track of them years ago.
How can a functional generator fail to be mass produced all these years
later?
Well, those devices were far from
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Robust and credible results would not require anyone to read long and
convoluted papers numbering in the thousands.
So you are looking for short, well-written, and highly
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
What happened to these men and their device?
I do not know what happened to those people. I lost track of them years
ago.
Really? You found a genuine, proven,
Simple, in the context of the time period.
Old Hi-tech company (Thermacore) sells out to large International Conglomerate
(Modine).
New owner downsizes to pay for the acquisition.
First thing to go is RD that is too far away from being a profit center.
RD is consolidated at new owner’s
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Simple, in the context of the time period.
SNIP
** **
It is a perfect storm of coincidence leading to the biggest missed
opportunity in alternative energy.
Isn't there a more likely reason that fits the
I regard efforts to change the name cold fusion as attempts to create a
euphemism. Euphemisms never work. Whatever bothers people about the old
word soon attaches to the new word, so you end up generating word after
word. For example: toilet, bathroom, men's room, restroom, etc.
Here is what I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc
On 11-12-16 03:13 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Robust and credible results would not require anyone to read
No it is not more likely - this appears to be your bogosity quotient at
work again - but it raises another issue.
Why would anyone invent a bogus rationale unsupported by the record-
especially under the guise of Occam - except to justify the continuing
failure to do their homework in this
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't there a more likely reason that fits the Occam's Razor principle?
That they couldn't get a robust and reproducible result from the devices
and gave up because they figured that it didn't really work?
That is not a likely reason because it is
Euphemisms never work. Whatever bothers people about the old word soon
attaches to the new word, so you end up generating word after word. For
example: toilet, bathroom, men's room, restroom, etc.
There is a huge industry of focus-group research that would vehemently
disagree. Changing
Jones, did you read that paper before citing it?
It's not a successful replication.
Quote from the abstract:
The apparent excess heat can
not be readily explained either in terms of nonlinearity of
the cell's thermal conductance a low temperature
differential or by thermoelectric heat
Note, by the way, that the original (hard copy) paper came with a data
disk in a pocket in the back cover, with all their raw data. Now THAT
is the way to publish research!
Unfortunately the PDF doesn't include the CD.
On 11-12-16 04:02 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-12-16 03:13
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
If you're looking for interesting CF papers, and if you're looking for
papers that show evidence that the researchers knew what they were doing,
you might take a look at this honker . . .
A direct link:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
No it is not “more likely” - this appears to be your bogosity quotient
at work again - but it raises another issue.
** **
Why would anyone invent a bogus rationale unsupported by the record–
especially under the
Stephen,
Sorry, but you are quite mistaken.
Here is the conclusion:
Replication of experiments claiming to demonstrate excess
heat production in light water-Ni-K2CO3 electrolytic cells
was found to produce an apparent excess heat of 11 W
maximum, for 60 W electrical power into the
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Global warming to climate change?
I believe that was a technical adjustment to make the term more accurate.
Not a euphemism. CO2 causes both warming and cooling, and also droughts and
other effects. It is not limited to warming.
This
From Robert:
There is a huge industry of focus-group research that would vehemently
disagree. Changing terminologies can entirely restructure a debate, and
affect changes in perception:
Global warming to climate change?
Pro-choice to women's health?
Gay marriage to marriage equality?
In
Mary Yugo wrote:
Once again, Yugo has failed to avail herself of the information
available on the LENR website.
Sure. I am going to read 1000+ papers. Very reasonable.
There is a remarkable internet utility available called Google. You
will find a link to it at the top of the
Jed sez:
...
(By the way, I did not love the challenge of making programs work
in 4 kB, but I did meet it.)
Back in the 70's I was hired by the State of Wisconsin to work on an
IBM 360 Model 20, with 32k of memory. This was a mainframe computer. I
was in charge of the edit check program that
He who controls the language controls the argument.
The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility of changing the
terminology. You will not immediately remove stigma, but can restructure the
entire nature of the dispute. The change in name can have the largest effect on
those
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
In all three examples you cite I personally find it interesting that
the politically correct replacement phrase being championed strikes
me as being far less descriptive than the original phrase.
I disagree about climate change.
On 11-12-16 04:48 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Stephen,
Sorry, but you are quite mistaken.
Here is the conclusion:
*Replication of experiments claiming to demonstrate excess*
*heat production in light water-Ni-K2CO3 electrolytic cells*
*was found to produce an apparent excess heat of 11 W*
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
He who controls the language controls the argument.
No one controls language. The French Academy wishes it did, but it does
not. This is one of the fundamentals of linguistics.
The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility
One point worth reiterating on this thread (although someone will be sure to
get in the last bit of negativism) is about the bogus argument of Lawrence
and Yugo . that belittles an LENR experiment which was only successful one
time in ten, or produced only 68% gain at most.
GET REAL . these
Robert sez:
He who controls the language controls the argument.
The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility of changing
the terminology. You will not immediately remove stigma, but can restructure
the entire nature of the dispute. The change in name can have the largest
Am 16.12.2011 21:59, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc
It is interesting and looks very convincing.
However, it is unclear to me how performant this is.
For example they measure neutrons. So far I know the neutrons from
cosmic rays are 20 neutrons /(cm^2*s)
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
** **
The Yugo-esque mentality of years past, firmly pronounced that quantum
tunneling was either an observational error, or a freak exception of
extremely low probability that will stay in the lab. Fast forward three
They also spoke of the excess heat being caused by efficient recombination of
hydrogen atoms. efficient doesn't get you over-unity and they should have
been looking at the other end of the reversible reaction where the environment
was actually lowering the disassociation threshold to the point
From: Mary Yugo
I think you're misreading my intent. I am only arguing against some
people's apparent certainty regarding Rossi and Defkalion.
Well, I completely agree that such certainty is both rampant - and misplaced
(and sometimes silly). With one major caveat.
Although Rossi has
On 11-12-16 05:27 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
One point worth reiterating on this thread (although someone will be
sure to get in the last bit of negativism) is about the bogus argument
of Lawrence and Yugo ... that belittles an LENR experiment which was
only successful one time in ten,
You
Stephen A. Lawrence has been fretting about the Thermacore NASA study,
which said: However, the present data do admit efficient recombination
of dissolved hydrogen-oxygen as an ordinary explanation.
Stop worrying about it. They published a later study in which input was I*V
and output exceeded it
Deflation fusion theory provides a potential solution to the riddle
of why the radioactive byproducts 59CU29, 61Cu29 and 62Cu29 to the Ni
+ p reactions do not appear in Rossi's byproducts. This solution of
the specific problem byproducts is manifest if the following rules
are obeyed by
I should make a comment on the MIT report, mentioned by Jed ... or lack of
one.
Haldeman was the head of Lincoln Labs at MIT for years, which was the
premiere physics Lab in the World at the time. CERN may make the claim now,
but I think they are comparative bumblers. Anyway, as I understand it,
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Here is what Tom Stolper has to say about this episode in his fine book,
which everyone interested in Ni-H should put at the top of their reading
list. It is on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Inventor-controversy-historical-contemporary/dp
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 December 2011 21:24, Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
How much government spending goes to the richest 1%? Very little, I
think.
This is the very problem of current socialist policy. However, if we
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
On 11-12-16 06:07 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY is more
likely than not a male. I
Shell’s Interest Indicates Major Shift for LENR
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/16/shells-interest-indicates-major-shift-for-lenr/?utm_medium=twitterutm_source=NewEnergyTimesBlog
What amazed me was the total lack of audience response during question
time. Talk about a tough opening night. No question after data that
should have raised a LOT of questions. Almost as if asking questions
could have been career ending.
On 12/17/2011 9:44 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
They
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
MY wrote:
I know of no properly demonstrated violation of Lenz law. Such a
violation would also violate COE and Newton 3. That's rather
Deflation fusion theory provides a potential solution to the riddle
of why the radioactive byproducts 59CU29, 61Cu29 and 62Cu29 to the Ni
+ p reactions do not appear in Rossi's byproducts. This solution of
the specific problem byproducts is manifest if the following rules
are obeyed by
It would seem that SR finds himself in a precarious position, eh?
T
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM, David ledin
mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Shell’s Interest Indicates Major Shift for LENR
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
It would seem that SR finds himself in a precarious position, eh?
T
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM, David ledin
mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote:
Shell’s Interest Indicates Major Shift for LENR
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote::
It would seem that SR finds himself in a precarious position, eh?
That should have read SK. Fat fingered.
T
On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc
LENR stands for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. The low energy part is
the fact the reactions can occur with thermal or chemical inputs,
energies well below even 1 eV. The outputs of course
MY wrote:
I can also determine if proper scientific method has most likely been
followed. Rossi and Defkalion fail *miserably* in both categories I know
about.
You can't fail at something that you never agreed to achieve.
Rossi has said from the out-set (i.e., January 2010) that he was
Mary:
Despite the fact that you have only been following CF/LENR for a year,
whereas most of the regulars on Vortex have been following it since 1989,
you should at least have a clue that there are 22 years of some very
revealing HISTORY behind CF/LENR, and much of it does NOT reflect well on
the
Horace, I feel a LOT of LENR claims (both ways) are more about
Testosterone levels in Alpha Males than physics. I guess we are not that
far from the cave as we would like to believe.
On 12/17/2011 4:44 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Mark, as an old engineer who has seen a LOT of Jaw Dropping things and
S**T, in the pit of my stomach, which I have learned to trust, LENR is
very real as are the results of Leonardo. As for DGT, I await to read
their publicly released test results.
What is now being revealed is the high
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