The Rossi reaction in a nutshell…
The mechanism of entanglement is different in the cold plasma based Rossi
reaction as compared to the standard commonly used water based cold fusion
applications like that used by the Thermacore experiment.
In more detail, potassium carbonate K2CO3, the
The story starts here SunCube
Fiasco http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=102146
Short version.
Greg Watson started a company Green and Gold Energy.
Claimed to have a wonderful new Solar widget SUNCUBE which was 6 times better
than old fashioned flatties
Published a firm price and
How sad Aussie Guy.
I really feel bad for you.
Regards to the dog!
(don't forget to respond to that bankruptcy notice, no more first class flights
around the world if you don't have a passport)
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
To:
Jed wrote: No such stage magic tricks exist, or can exist. It is physically
impossible.
Look, we've had this discussion before, haven't we? It is not only possible, it
is easy. Compared to fusing Nickel with Hydrogen its less than child's play.
You don't even need a PCM for that - but even if
Late last year there was a somewhat exciting announcement somewhere, I
guess in a comments section of a blog, of another startup (nordic, I
believe), at lanr.org.
If I look at that website now, it says:
=
*LANR*
Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions - Also known as Low Energy Nuclear
There is also lanr.com,
which may or may not be related but I assume it is related as they
too say they will be live at the end of January. They're talking
about producing and selling reactor cores.
--
LANR
Lattice Assisted Nuclear
Francesca broke the proceedings book into smaller chunks, here:
http://iccf15.frascati.enea.it/docs/proceedings.html
- Jed
EL,
Ah, right.. thanks. That was much more in line with what I remembered.
They just reacted on ecatnews.com:
We are in a very early stage don't get too optimistic. Please don't
bother the domain owner, we will publish proper contact info on the site
when we make progress with our
Well, Keef - judging from the prior postings here in support of AG (they
know who they are) you may have saved several Rossi fanboys a wad of ca$h
that would have gone into the stock of whatever new investment vehicle
Greg comes up with.
GOW has apparently learned from experience that selling
From Andre:
...
They just reacted on ecatnews.com:
We are in a very early stage don’t get too optimistic. Please don’t bother
the domain owner, we will publish proper contact info on the site when we
make progress with our experiments.
Not much to be expected soon, then.
Indeed.
Don't
The Ballad of Greg Watson (updated)
Come and listen to a story
Bout a man named Greg
A poor old aging scammer
Barely kept his fambly fed
And then one day he was looking at his roof
Said I'll dream me up a sunball
And I'll say that it's the troof
Well the sunball turned to suncube
And to mark two
Jed wrote: ...tell me the number right here...
I AM SORRY BUT THAT NUMBER IIS CONFIDENTIAL. ALL THOSE SNAKES AND CLOWNS OUT
THERE. COMPETIITION YOU KNOW. BUT I CAN SHOW YOU THE PCM IN A LARGE HEAVY METAL
BOX ON A TABLE AND PUMP WATER THROUGH IT TO MAKE SOME STEAM IN A RUBBER HOSE
AND THEN WE
Heh!
I think you may need profession assistance with your obsession with
Greg. :)
Craig
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 07:59 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
The Ballad of Greg Watson (updated)
Come and listen to a story
Bout a man named Greg
A poor old aging scammer
Barely kept his fambly fed
And
someone have cited this dcument from us army corp of engineer
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ada432046
it talsk about the experiments with Rossi'es TE devices.
it is interesting because they don't talk about total fraud, but what look
like
optimism and amateurism...
LTI was
From: Alain Sepeda
someone has cited this document from us army corp. of engineer
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ada432046
it talks about the experiments with Rossi's TE devices.
it is interesting because they don't talk about total fraud, but what look
like
optimism and amateurism...
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
wrote:
someone have cited this dcument from us army corp of engineer
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ada432046
it talsk about the experiments with Rossi'es TE devices.
it is interesting because they don't talk about
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
GOW has apparently learned from experience that selling stock in
worthless companies is much lower risk than selling products you can’t
deliver. “Capitalism” protects the “pump and dumper” pretty well - but not
the guy who
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhQIufkdL4feature=related
Fast forward to 6:40
Huge blast of steam and hot water.
What is going on here?
Well, the mains input power has been removed, the cold water reservoir is still
being pumped through the Ecat and the hot water/water-vapour/steam is
HOLY SHIT!
From: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Keef Versus Greg Watson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
GOW has apparently learned from
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Rossi reaction in a nutshell…
SNIP
Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera.
No it's not science. It's not science to postulate a mechanism for a
reaction that has never been properly
Eff Wivakeef wrote:
The tap is opened and a GEYSER of steam under high pressure erupts.
WTF?|
Simple really, there is a store of very hot pressurised hot water
stored within the Ecat that has been heated by the electrical input
power,
There is no electric power input. That water was
Hey Axil,
I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into
a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no
excess heat to report.
Any ideas on preparing the Ni lattice or tubercles?
MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science
Harry wrote: How do you hide 1 cubic meter of iron in the device which was
tested?
I don't have to. First of all, less than 100 liters of water were heated in the
desktop demos - and
secondly, 10,000 cm3 are just 10 liters (not 1,000 liters) weighing
merely 78kg (not over 7,000). The October
There is no electrical power input.
That water was heated EARLIER by the mains power source.
Simple really!
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:unpowered test of Ecat
Eff
If it was, then the entire power calculation is screwed up. With that kind of
pressure the water wouldn't convert to steam (and the hose where the steam came
out during the demo would have looked dramatically different - 3 bar would be
enough to prevent boiling at the measured temperatures).
Only if you assume that all or most of the water has been vaporized to dry
steam - and besides, Rossi could have started the demo with the storage already
more or less heated up. We don't know. Nobody was there and whitnessed the
preparations, afaik.
One more thing that doesn't really add up:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote:
MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science
to the Vortex! LOL!
I never said that. You made it up. My response was to a very specific
post.
No, science is try a method and see if works accordingly.
2012/1/20 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The Rossi reaction in a nutshell…
SNIP
Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera.
No
See:
http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/7700068.html#
It looks like creating tubercles on the Nickel surface is a chemical
process requiring precise temperature and timing controls. This would be
hard for an amateur chemist to achieve.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM, ecat builder
At 06:10 AM 1/20/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Francesca broke the proceedings
book into smaller chunks, here:
http://iccf15.frascati.enea.it/docs/proceedings.html
I noticed this one (part 1, p 52)
Abnormal excess heat measured
during Mizuno-type experiments: a
possible artefact?
J-F. FAUVARQUE
If anyone is still in doubt that Greg and Aussi Guy are one and the same,
here is a thread from another forum - that turned up today - where other
posters are calling Greg the world's greatest supplier of bullshit, to his
face - and he doesn't blink an eye - PLUS he identifies himself as
1. Italo R.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:36
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=14#comment-172614
Dear Ing. Rossi,
I have been told that in your official E-Cat website
http://ecat.com/there is the important news that two Universities are
already studying and
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
** **
If anyone is still in doubt that Greg and Aussi Guy are one and the same,
here is a thread from another forum - that turned up today - where other
posters are calling Greg the world’s greatest supplier of
Who the hell do you think Blinky Bill is?
(I cannot tell a lie!)
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Keef Versus Greg Watson
If anyone is still in
doubt that Greg and
I hope you don't mean my friend Blinky
He is a very nice dude.
I know him VERY well indeed.
From: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Keef Versus Greg Watson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I (and others) have called for waveform monitoring of the eCat calorimetry,
or for the use of wideband meters which do not rely on a sinusoidal waveform
for their calculations.
Wideband metering of what? The mains?!?
T
On 12-01-20 03:25 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
If anyone is still in doubt that Greg and Aussi Guy are one and
the same, here is a thread from another forum - that turned up
today -
At 12:32 PM 1/20/2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
Wideband metering of what? The mains?!?
Yes. All of the sub-1MW experiments have been connected to the same
mains plug in Rossi's factory.
(eg the area under a square wave gives pi/2 = 1.5 more watts than a
sine wave --- though I'd have to correct
The source doesn't link to yahoo groups.
2012/1/20 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
** **
If anyone is still in doubt that Greg and Aussi Guy are one and the same,
here is a thread from another forum - that turned up
Entirely possible to skew the results by using a non-sinusoidal waveform that
exceeds the crest factor that the meter is accurate for.
This is how the Lutec and similar scams work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4og0S9lmJs
From: Terry Blanton
Here is what you need
http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-4-merged-t63982.html
If you want more info please contact AUSSIE GUY!
1) My inability to make a 100% solid SMOT device and
ship it to the 2 or so people who had sent me $150
Aus.
http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-4-merged-t63982-165.html
20,000??? people sent him money for the SMOT?
I never knew he was at that level. That's 3 million AUS
Err the 20,000 Might be an inadvertent typo.
Who knows how many of the stupid things he sold or did did/not deliver.
What is for sure is that Greg advertised the SMOT all over the net and lived
off the income for a few years.
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:25 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
Err the 20,000 Might be an inadvertent typo.
Who knows how many of the stupid things he sold or did did/not
deliver.
What is for sure is that Greg advertised the SMOT all over the net and
lived off the income for a few years.
The only reference that I could find on ecat.com to dispensation of university
testing was more than two months ago, before Rossi seemed to have disavowed it:
Q: Will you do more public tests of the E-cat?
Asked by Ecat.com 2 months ago
A:
1- we made all the tests we had to make
2- no more
Craig,
That particular message could be a plant by someone else but even so, the
worldwide number was much higher than in the USA alone.
He did repay a few carefully selected purchasers on vortex, including our
moderator Bill, and maybe Jed. Selective reimbursement. There are old posts in
the
On 12-01-20 04:39 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:25 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
What is for sure is that Greg advertised the SMOT all over the net and
lived off the income for a few years. [ ... ]
This is news to me too. The way he approached this list back in the
mid-90s,
Clauzon's test of Watson's SMOT28-Apr-09 12:19 am
Ok Greg, I looked at Professor Clauzon's test
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotnrgt.htm
First, I don't know who this guy is but I am looking into whether he actually
exists. It doesn't really matter.
So this experiment is pretty simple.
That's nothing, he threatens EVERYONE with a defamation action!
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1788051#
CaptainScarlet writes...
It's a scam...
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=suncube+fraudie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-GB:officialclient=firefox-a
There are many other threads
Yeah RIGHT!
Date: Wed, 14 May
1997 08:15:26 +0930
From: Greg Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
vortex-l@eskimo.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Simple
Rotary Ou Device
Hi All,
Just a short note to
try to answer those questions I can.
1) There is NO
outside
BTW - someone asked earlier how AG/Greg was scheming ... in order to profit
from contacts on vortex, juxtaposed and combine with the emergence of Andrea
Rossi onto the public scene, and now the answer is clearing up (GOW's
strategy). Remember two things - first - he got his big start on vortex,
Vada a bordo, GOW!
T
Terry still wants to know your doggies' name, LOL
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Vada a bordo, GOW!
T
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
The only reference that I could find on ecat.com to dispensation of
university testing was more than two months ago, before Rossi seemed to
have
disavowed it:SNIP
Interesting bit from ecat.com:
“We have
I continue to be amazed how *convinced* people
can be by incomplete and inconclusive evidence.
That takes place in all directions and all sides.
I looked at the thread cited. As cited, it's
definitely not a proof of anything, there would
need to be some precedent conditions. However,
those
At 03:39 PM 1/20/2012, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
And if everything's done right the cell's operation produces
antigravity as well, and can lift the car right off the ground ...
neat trick, that. May not be so good when you're trying to get
traction on snow, OTOH (something we care about a
(part deux) To wit:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/12/new-cold-fusion-success-claim-aussie-guy-says-he-has-fleischmann-pons-experiment-devices-working/
You can connect the dots with AG's recent outburst, prior to the catch which
was the fumingly silly realization in a post to JR - that the BBB
Over at the forum at PeakOil.com is a posting by 'SeaGypsy' trying to start
a Class Action suit against Rossi... (see below)
http://peakoil.com/forums/class-action-vs-rossi-ecat-et-al-t64094-30.html
But he clearly admits as to not having invested or 'lost' anything to Rossi.
I don't know what
At 12:04 PM 1/14/2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
Geeze, don't these people have cell phones to coordinate with?
While following the Aussie Guy thread at
http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-4-merged-t63982-195.html#p109
I found an update on the Dick Smith story:
Last
At 04:05 PM 1/20/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
And later on
:
http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-4-merged-t63982-240.html#p1100188
Mystery blue box sank 'cold fusion' for Dick Smith
BY: ANTHONY KLAN From: The Australian January 20, 2012 12:00AM
.
Mr Bryce said one of the
I agree 100% with Mark on this.
And it is not a fine point. The 'bad guys' are being confused in the dust of
high body count.
Keef - my advice to you - is to get your act together on your real
adversary. It is GOW and not LENR. LENR is essentially correct, as science.
Yes, it rests on the
Another concern was waste-water being poured down the drain -- if a nuclear
reaction was occurring that water would be highly radioactive, Mr. Bryce
said.
It's pretty clear that Mr. Bryce didn't do his homework... at all! Woefully
ignorant of anything about LENR/CF and the E-Cat demos. That's
Keef, over here in the states, the saying goes,
Don't throw the baby (LENR) out with the bath-water (GOW).
Where Rossi fits into that saying is debatable...
-mark
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:21 PM
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Jones Beene wrote:
He did repay a few carefully selected purchasers on vortex, including
our moderator Bill,
Nope, I never was interested, other than to buy $10 of used mouseballs and
a length of small-gauge train track. My personal policy is, when playing
with FE/OU,
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
So, he was clearly a bald face liar, asking people for money for something he
certainly knew he didn't have.
To suggest that we welcome him back to the list, after he stole money from
list members, would be outrageous. (I'm not sure anyone
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
I still have little plastic drawer entirely full of used mouseballs...
Those poor mice.
It reminds me of what the dear, late Chris Tinsley used to say:
I have the mind of a child . . .
in a jar of formaldehyde on my desk.
The other week there was a story about Ian Bryce from Australian Skeptics
doing an investigation on behalf of Dick Smith. See these stories:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world-20120112-1pxj2.html
Those articles have been mentioned here in the past, but thanks for adding the
podcast to the mix.
Though there were absolutely no technical revelations, what I did take away
from the interview is the breath of investors being lured in.
In the past, Rossi claimed that the customer's money
Now in this time of research and application, I seem to have reached a finality
with bulb demonstrations, with the first beginning tommorow. I have made good
tests today with the principle using a 15 watt bulb as the load. But first one
must fathom what is going on...
Harvey D Norris wrote:
Been a Vortex web lurker too long. Finally something that blows up
Rossi, his lunatic supporters and exposes how this scam works.
http://skepticzone.libsyn.com/webpage/the-skeptic-zone-170-21-jan-2012
It is good to see Ian Bryce of the Australian Skeptics taking a slice
out of Rossi, doing
Anyone? I'm interested too...
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, John Milstone
john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
Last November, Sven Kullander promised a detailed isotopic analysis of the
ash from Rossi's E-Cat by Christmas. (http://ecatnews.com/?p=1416)
It's now well past
I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check.
Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation?
Can a nickel carbonyl reflux column achieve isotopic separation?
Is a centrifuge also required or just a vortex tube?
Is the isotope refining more controversial than LENR?
Does one get the
On 21/01/2012 5:00 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote:
Anyone? I'm interested too...
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, John Milstone
john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
Last November, Sven Kullander promised a detailed isotopic analysis of the ash from
Rossi's E-Cat by Christmas.
On 21/01/2012 5:03 PM, thorium breeder wrote:
Is the rossi heater
multi-level marketing in the digital age?
You just got a hole in one.
On 21/01/2012 5:12 PM, Phil Wilson wrote:
On 21/01/2012 5:03 PM, thorium breeder wrote:
Is the rossi heater
multi-level marketing in the digital age?
You just got a hole in one.
You got that right. Wonder what happens when the E-Cat
hits 451 deg F? Bury baby burn? Bring it on!
Shaun
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder thorium.bree...@gmail.com
wrote:
I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check.
Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation?
One of the more far out of Rossi's claims, made clearly and at least twice
in his misnamed blog (JONP),
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote:
Ok Rossi may not be interested in private investors for Leonardo Corp
Well, we don't know that. He says it but it doesn't mean he didn't take
money secretly already with people who signed NDA's. For sure, a lot of
On 21/01/2012 5:46 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder
thorium.bree...@gmail.com mailto:thorium.bree...@gmail.com wrote:
I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check.
Can rossi achieve do it yourself isotopic separation?
One of the more far out
*I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into **a
test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no **excess
heat to report.*
I don’t understand why you selected potassium chlorate over potassium
carbonate K2CO3 as the catalyst.
Also, 200C is far
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