Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Just to clarify, Ruby is not referring to me. I have never joined cold fusion now, nor have posted there, as far as I can remember. Jojo - Original Message - From: Ruby To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Yes, it would be good if Mr. Beaty took a long look at the situtation Vortex-L has become. Then maybe, he can see that I was discussing with civility on a thread I started before Lomax, SVJ and others started the insults. Yes, I am the troll for responding appropriately to insults. Maybe,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
My friends, you will notice who it is that wanted to keep this topic alive. The facts make it clear in case the Vortex system does not. Lomax started this thread for which I responded with the truth. Orgasm Wikipedia responded by agreeing and everything he said is the truth. As documented in

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Frank, Please refrain from saying things like this. I find it very insulting. Jojo - Original Message - From: fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age I

[Vo]:Supersolidity loses its luster

2012-12-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Supersolidity loses its luster Bizarre quantum state may not exist after all By Alexandra Witze October 12, 2012 One of the most exciting physics discoveries in recent years may not be a discovery after all. Reports of “supersolidity,” in which solid helium flows through itself without

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Harry Veeder
how to shovel crap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYzPPY7IchY Harry

Re: [Vo]:New Vortex engine for reusable spacecraft

2012-12-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
It have been discussed at ANS http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?790-Larsen-at-ANS-LENR-Pulse-detonation-engine-for-aircraft there are also design of Lox-augmented NTR discussed on next big future, that LENr would make more realistic 2012/12/23 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com On

Re: [Vo]: Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Vorl Bek
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:54:14 -0600 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Vorl: I recently started to block everything from or about him so I do not see anything. A sensible approach. As previously mentioned, I also block his posts. But I also choose

[Vo]:On Topics - Hydrogen

2012-12-23 Thread neu tron
Gentlemen: Lets go back to some thoughts of a Proton in a fixed magnetic field with two electrons hogging its so called shell being oscillated by a frequency generator tap all occurring in an environment of a nano Ni cone. This is rubbish: (1) If the Secretary of State has reasonable cause to

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Greetings, I'm curious. What is the source of this document? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:04 AM, orgasm wikipedia wikipedia.org...@inbox.lv wrote: Jojo, Not to worry. Free people appoint strong moral pillars such as yourself to Secretary of State positions to

Re: [Vo]:New Vortex engine for reusable spacecraft

2012-12-23 Thread David Roberson
Does this design technique eliminate the requirement for a liquid rocket engine to have cooling tubes surrounding the chamber? I hope someone who knows a lot about these systems would help me understand this situation. I can imagine that the vortex behavior would help to keep the hot gasses

RE: [Vo]: Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Vorl, Thank you for correcting my numerous grammatical mistakes. Also, as a part-time dyslexic these are some of the crosses I must occasionally bare. (Spell check is a double-edged sword.) Nevertheless, grammatical mistakes and all, I stand by my prior statements. Feel free to disagree. Nuff

Re: [Vo]:On Topics - Hydrogen

2012-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Thanks, Mr. GingriNch.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Thanks to Lawrence. I should mention that my opinons about Islam are my own. I was internationally known as a writer on Islam well before 2000. I accepted Islam in 1971, but I wouldn't say that, at that point, I understood it very well. I was Muslim Chaplain at San Quentin State Prison, having

Re: [Vo]:New Vortex engine for reusable spacecraft

2012-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:32 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Does this design technique eliminate the requirement for a liquid rocket engine to have cooling tubes surrounding the chamber? http://www.google.com/patents/US6865878 Bigelow's company.

Re: [Vo]:New Vortex engine for reusable spacecraft

2012-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Good description here: http://www.sae.org/mags/AEM/11560 On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:32 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Does this design technique eliminate the requirement for a liquid rocket engine to have

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:32 PM 12/22/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Then maybe, he can see that I was discussing with civility on a thread I started before Lomax, SVJ and others started the insults. Yes, I am the troll for responding appropriately to insults. Maybe, he'll notice that my responses are with insults

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm curious. What is the source of this document? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Speaking about civilty CMNS does not accept CV-less unidetinfiable members using nicknames saying what they want and not being accountable. Vortex used to be a nice place, it is not more. The Delete key is overused. Couldn't we discuss about the possible futures of LENR. I wrote a paper about this

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking about civilty CMNS does not accept CV-less unidetinfiable members using nicknames saying what they want and not being accountable. Vortex used to be a nice place, it is not more. I agree. The sock puppets can

Re: [Vo]:New Vortex engine for reusable spacecraft

2012-12-23 Thread James Bowery
Roger Gregory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Gregory_(programmer) and I developed an ultracentrifugal rocket enginehttp://www.halfwaytoanywhere.com/that integrated the pump, chamber, nozzle and exhaust bell into a single rotating structure. An interesting feature was the use of Coriolis

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Many thanks, Terry. My first reaction to the earlier posting of this text was, Fascism arises. Interesting to see its provenance! The British seem to have abolished the Regulation promptly. Odd that some should be advocating its reintroduction. On Dec 23, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Terry Blanton

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Abdul-Rahman, many thanks for your posting. I was wondering how you had become so thoughtful and knowledgeable about Islam. Muslim chaplain at San Quentin! That must have been fascinating, given the different strains of Islam that you must have encountered, to say nothing of the outlier Nation

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks, Terry. My first reaction to the earlier posting of this text was, Fascism arises. Interesting to see its provenance! The British seem to have abolished the Regulation promptly. Odd that some

[Vo]:Is this for real?

2012-12-23 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, Don't know if this video was discussed here before. But came across this video. Big Eureka - The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMYo1QlvK5g Be aware the video takes over an hour to see. Is this thing for real or not? Kind regards, Rob

Re: [Vo]:Is this for real?

2012-12-23 Thread Esa Ruoho
Joseph Newman once wrote a book about his discoveries. He seems to have a gyroscope-related worldview on magnetism and atoms. It seems to have some connections with Bedini / etc , i.e., goes against BackEMF, i.e., is a Lenzless motor. I can find you the book in PDF form if you want to have a look

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
As I was when people started calling the Bible a fairy tale written by goat herders. You feel that I have no right to defend what I believe from lies, yet feel that Lomax has every right to defend his from the truth. Every one went up in arms when I defended the Bible from lies; but when

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Eric Walker
Jojo, I've never added anyone to a killfile in my lilfe, but I'm doing it now. I hope Bill Beatty will ban you at some point, as you appear to have no desire to get in tune with the wishes of the people on this list and would prefer instead to try to steer the threads towards your own purposes.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Excellent spin Lomax. Gotta admit, I did not forsee this spin. So, it's about Balance now, right? OK, if I am understanding you correctly, we should look at muhammed's life in Balance. On the one hand, he is a child molester who forced sex on a 9 year old little girl barely out of diapers;

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
oh my goodness, such a great lost for me. If people would stop insulting me, this round of insults would end. It's that simple. I never start insults, but I will finish it. I hate bullies, gang of bullies, liars and gang of liars. Jojo - Original Message - From:

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread MJ
George Carlin on religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE On 23-Dec-12 20:36, Jojo Jaro wrote: As I was when people started calling the Bible a fairy tale written by goat herders. You feel that I have no right to defend what I believe from lies, yet feel that Lomax has

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
BTW, there is no need to ban me. I will gladly unsubscribe and never resubscirbe again. This will end when people stop destroying this forum with incessant off-topic posts. It's not about what people in this group want, it's about civilized behavior and following the rules of this forum.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
LIAR I never initiate insults. I never inititate personal attacks. NEVER have, NEVER ever. You handpick my posts and build a fallacious history of the events here and lie about it. You're a BOLDFACE liar, just like your great HOLEY prophet. Jojo - Original Message -

Re: [Vo]:On Topics - Hydrogen

2012-12-23 Thread fznidarsic
Merry Christmas to all. I have rewritten my papers. Now there is no transitional velocity Vt only a nuclear speed Sn and a atomic speed Sa. When they are set equal (Sn = Sa) I get the energy levels of the atoms, the speed of atomic electrons, the intensity of spectral emission, the

Fwd: [Vo]:On Topics - Hydrogen

2012-12-23 Thread fznidarsic
Oh, I almost forgot, Here is the link. http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/3901 Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:51 AM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: My friends, you will notice who it is that wanted to keep this topic alive. The facts make it clear in case the Vortex system does not. Lomax started this thread for which I responded with the truth. Orgasm Wikipedia responded by agreeing and

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:04 AM 12/23/2012, orgasm wikipedia wrote: Jojo, Not to worry. Free people appoint strong moral pillars such as yourself to Secretary of State positions to administer laws against terrorism such as: Ah. OW is trolling Jojo, too. The document that is then quoted is an altered version

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:34 PM 12/22/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder mailto:hveeder...@gmail.comhveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If it responded to input from a leash it would not have to be so navigational smart. I think the point is: you can tell it to go from point A to point B in a battlefield, and it

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:20 PM 12/22/2012, Vorl Bek wrote: But aside from such outrages, unpleasantness can best be dealt with by using a killfile. I don't use a killfile, because I historically often need to review messages quickly. I filter his posts into a special folder, and don't routinely read them. But

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Eh? Daniel seems to a bit, ah, out of it here. Nobody is blocked, not yet. Mr. Beaty has been asked to consider responding to the situation, and that's it. I'm not sure what Daniel is saying here. Yes, posts here show up on Google searches. In fact, when I have tried to find sources for Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:45 PM 12/22/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: yeah your right, a leash works on beings with feelings...this thing doesn't feel. It could easily be made to feel a leash. But you also want autonomy. I.e., the leader, even if using a leash, which would be connected to a sensor that detect the

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:25 PM 12/22/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Imagine having a cold fusion powered version of one of these things coming after you in the woods. Inexorably. What a nightmare! Worse than a real dog. Well, not yet. Whack that rotating thing on its face with a big stick. But, yes, eventually this

Fwd: [Vo]:On Topics - Hydrogen

2012-12-23 Thread fznidarsic
It is interesting to see where new ideas come from and why. I looked at cold fusion and gravitomangetic experiments and multiplied frequency times domain length and got a velocity of 1,000,000 meters per second. Why did I do that and why did I suspect it was important? Many, including our

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:06 PM 12/23/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: Abdul-Rahman, many thanks for your posting. I was wondering how you had become so thoughtful and knowledgeable about Islam. I accepted Islam in about 1970, and was already widely read about religion before then. I later became knowledgeable

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:17 PM 12/23/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks, Terry. My first reaction to the earlier posting of this text was, Fascism arises. Interesting to see its provenance! The British seem to have

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:36 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: As I was when people started calling the Bible a fairy tale written by goat herders. I don't recall that. Rather rude, I'd say, but is there something wrong with being a goat herder (i.e., a nomad)? People who believe the Bible (or the Qur'an) are

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread David L Babcock
Please! Please do! Ol' Bab On 12/23/2012 6:23 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: BTW, there is no need to ban me. I will gladly unsubscribe and never resubscirbe again. This will end when people stop destroying this forum with incessant off-topic posts. It's not about what people in this group want, it's

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Lomax accuses me of cherry picking what I read, but he does that even better than I. Quite honestly, I have never met anyone with such an innate skill at spinnng the truth. Excellent work Lomax. The point is, Lomax conveniently ignores that the 2 muslim works I quoted are some of the most

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Can you guarantee no more incessant off-topic posts? Jojo - Original Message - From: David L Babcock To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread David L Babcock
Can you herd cats? Ol' Bab On 12/23/2012 10:38 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: Can you guarantee no more incessant off-topic posts? Jojo - Original Message - *From:* David L Babcock mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Did you try? If you post a reply with criticism of the off-topic posts, your credibility with me will skyrocket and I will be more apt to take you advice. Jojo - Original Message - From: David L Babcock To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:43 AM

[Vo]:there is something funny go one out there

2012-12-23 Thread fznidarsic
You can believe it or not, but I produced the quantum condition from a set of classical principles. According to this train of thought the probability of transition is proportional to the amplitude of vibration at a dimensional frequency of 1,094,000 hertz -meters per second. It sort of like

[Vo]:there is something funny go one out there

2012-12-23 Thread fznidarsic
The universe and its atoms move in the direction of increasing entropy. It appears that atoms do this but they don't what to. It an atom can make another atom take the entropy hit for it; it's alive and has a purpose. Why would an atom have a desire? It it can get some buddies help it out

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 03:45 PM 12/22/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: yeah your right, a leash works on beings with feelings...this thing doesn't feel. It could easily be made to feel a leash. But you also want autonomy. I.e., the

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:11 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Excellent spin Lomax. Gotta admit, I did not forsee this spin. So, it's about Balance now, right? OK, if I am understanding you correctly, we should look at muhammed's life in Balance. No, Jojo does not understand. Judging the interpretation of

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I've gone over the history, and Jojo is lying again. I'll be happy to apologize if I erred in my analysis. Jojo, below, says I nandpicked his posts. If I cherry-picked the posts, I certainly did not attept to do so. But the cherry-picking claim is a cheap shot. If I cherry-picked, then Jojo

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Why would he care about off-topic posts on a list that he doesn't subscribe to? At 10:38 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:  Can you guarantee no more incessant off-topic posts? Jojo - Original Message - From: mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.comDavid L Babcock To:

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:30 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Lomax accuses me of cherry picking what I read, but he does that even better than I. Quite honestly, I have never met anyone with such an innate skill at spinnng the truth. Excellent work Lomax. The point is, Lomax conveniently ignores that the 2