Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Basta, signore! The manometer says- no obstacle, steam is condensed. peter On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck wrote: > > Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? >> > > Back pressure from the radiator. When you force a fluid

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? > Back pressure from the radiator. When you force a fluid through a radiator (or heat exchanger) this raises the pressure of the fluid. It does not take much pressure to raise the boiling point of water above 103°C. See:

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? You really seem to be in trance. OK, tell it is fake but do not give pseudo-technical explanations. peter PS I have finished this uselesss discussion, I stil prefer logic. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > Your last variant re Rossi's fake data was this; Exactly zero excess heat, > watermeter lying 4 Times more flow 103 C fluid water not trace of steam. > At 4 atm 103°C water is liquid without a trace of steam. 4 atm is not much. The back pressure

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Excellent, from now on, if I see ads for investing in PD D I will know they are not by you. As regarding NiH we willl see. I suppose you have called main author Nakamura from NISSAN and asked him what he thinks about NiH. Your last variant re Rossi's fake data was this; Exactly zero excess heat,

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > you ignore with easiness the reproducibility problem > I did not ignore it. I stated clearly that this is predicated on controlling the reaction. I said "Assumption. With Pd-D 200 W/g can be achieved, at any desired temperature up to the melting

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed, you ignore with easiness the reproducibility problem Cna you tell me the rtae of success NOW say at SKINR, ENEA, Coolescence and others? Re the ERv report it has 60 pages, you have seen 352 daily reports not 8448 hourly ones and not the results for 506880 minutes (approx) When the

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: mre cells with death after (no) heat. > I do not know what this sentence means. Perhaps you are saying that Pd-D does not produce heat after death. That's incorrect. It does. There is no input power, so the COP is infinite. > probably not true for

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-16 Thread Peter Gluck
mre cells with death after (no) heat. probably not true for Ti- very abundent element have worked with it. For CF remeber Scaramuzzi and our friend Chino has done a lot with Ti. Au is Au and has it s place in electromivvcs. So please do not mention PD based commercial energy sources. Re the

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: b) The heavy water gives D2 with a consume of energy good COP is > say 1.30 to be optimist . . . > There have been many cells with heat after death for long periods. That is a COP of infinity. Once the reaction is understood and controlled, I am

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-15 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed You forget a few details: a) Your first and probably most correct;evaluation was 300 W/cc palladium and thi is 25 W/g; b) The heavy water gives D2 with a consume of energy good COP is say 1.30 to be optimist, so you will consume 780 W (power) for getting 100 w power= imagine your generator s

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a brief analysis of the cost of a 1 MW palladium-based generator -- I estimate that palladium can produce ~200 W/g, so you would need 5 kg. This costs $119,000 at today's prices. An EPRI study shows that a conventional 1 MW generator costs $267,000, so this would not cost much more than a

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: Whether PdD can fuel the future is maybe a premature question. > I see PdD as a lab-rat technology to investigate the phenomenon and build > a theory. > Yup. > Once we have the theory, guessing from what I see already, I feel that Pd > won't be

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > This is accurate insight with the proviso that palladium could still be > required, even with graphene, but possibly optimized as much as twenty-fold. > I think that is probably true. But I kind of took that into account when I plugged the power

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-10 Thread Jess Tauber
I've long been an advocate of mining the planet Mercury (if one can get around the obvious difficulties of such an extreme environment on the surface). Early in the planet's history some unknown cataclysm (possibly similar to that which resulted in the formation of our own moon) blasted off most

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Alain Sepeda wrote: Whether PdD can fuel the future is maybe a premature question. I see PdD as a lab-rat technology to investigate the phenomenon and build a theory. Once we have the theory, guessing from what I see already, I feel that Pd won't be required, and could be replaced by

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
Whether PdD can fuel the future is maybe a premature question. I see PdD as a lab-rat technology to investigate the phenomenon and build a theory. Once we have the theory, guessing from what I see already, I feel that Pd won't be required, and could be replaced by nanostructured material... other

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Someone told me those are Troy ounces, which are heavier than garden variety ounce-ounces. Perhaps they also launch a thousand ships. See also the millihelen: "A unit of measure of pulchritude, corresponding to the amount of beauty required to launch one ship." Note: this is not included in the

[Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

2017-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Palladium is expensive and rare. If it turns out we can only generate cold fusion energy from palladium, and not some other metal such as nickel or titanium, this will probably limit the use of cold fusion to things like central generators which have a high duty cycle, making maximum use of the