On Wednesday 08 February 2006 10:13, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly
quotes, so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell
says, it is sadly defeatist.
- Jed
Exxon: America will always rely on foreign oil
Tue Feb 7, 2006
In a message dated 2/8/2006 9:41:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Moving forward requires a substantial attitude change, the good old American "can do" attitude. This can do attitude is the opposite of that demonstrated by Exxon Mobil Senior Vice President Stuart
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly
quotes, so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell
says, it is sadly defeatist.
- Jed
Exxon: America will always rely on foreign oil
Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:19 PM ET
HOUSTON (Reuters) - The United States will always
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly quotes,
so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell says, it is
sadly defeatist.
If they are honest conclusions, then how can they be considered 'defeatist'?
That word implies a preconceived conclusion.
Craig
They are fatalist instead of defeatist.
Harry
Craig Haynie wrote:
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly quotes,
so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell says, it is
sadly defeatist.
If they are honest conclusions, then how can they be
> From: Craig Haynie
>> From Jed Rothwell
>> The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is
>> short and mainly quotes, so I will take the liberty of
>> uploading it. As Chris Zell says, it is sadly defeatist.
> If they are honest conclusions, then how can they be
> considered 'defeatist'?
>
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Your Surrender has Been Ordered
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly quotes,
so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell says, it is
sadly defeatist.
- Jed
OrionWorks wrote:
It is extremely defeatist due to the perceived conclusions they
offer. Specifically, they express a perceived conclusion that there
ain't no real substitute available now or in the foreseeable future
Actually they say . . . the short or medium term. And they say not
Mike Carrell wrote:
Or realistic and responsible, depending on your persepctive. At
present, there is no way that the US will achieve energy indpendence
in any time window less than many decades.
I would bet one or two decades. If this oil executive met any
duration longer than 20 years,
People unfamiliar with plug-in hybrid technology may not realize the
full impact of the program I described. See:
http://www.calcars.org/
To make a long story short, after 20 years of development, these cars
would probably get on the order of 200 to 1000 mpg. That is to say,
miles per gallon
will and
necessity. We have more than enough tools to dramtically reduce our oil
consumption, if implemented sensibly.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Your Surrender has Been Ordered
On Feb 8, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
These things are caused by stupidity, greed, bad management and --
in the face of terrorism -- energy policy that is tantamount to
treason. (These policies have been endorsed by both parties and the
last six presidents, but I still think
of newly constructed coal and nuclear plants.
Same song third verse in the White House Choir..
I ought to know, I lost my butt that mobilization.
Fred
[Original Message]
From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: 2/8/2006 6:42:24 PM
Subject: Re: Your Surrender has Been
On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Frederick Sparber wrote:
Where have you been since the oil Embargo in the early 70s,Horace
In Alaska where the oil is. 8^)
We mobilized and brought viable and proven energy technologies
ready for
turnkey by the late 70s to mid eighties, only to have the
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Your Surrender has Been Ordered
On Feb 8, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
These things are caused by stupidity, greed, bad management
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