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Bob, No. A jury trial depends critically on the jury hearing and seeing the witness actually testify in person - and weighing truthfulness based on the witness’s demeanor and the handling of hard questions. IH would never agree to forego direct testimony by the most important witness in

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net> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 1:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity! From: Peter Gluck Ø dear Jones, some 10% of the sum in dispute usually goes to the attorney, lawyers, hudges...everywhere. Very funny. I mistook this for a serious disc

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I agree with Axil. However, Jed must feel it is worthwhile pontificating like he does with the same old same old. Bob Cook From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR

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Axil Axil wrote: Rossi might lie all the time, but if that lie is not material in meeting > the legal requirements of the licence, then whatever Rossi might say is > immaterial. > There is no excess heat. The legal requirements of the license are not met for that reason.

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Rossi might lie all the time, but if that lie is not material in meeting the legal requirements of the licence, then whatever Rossi might say is immaterial. Jed, you should take a course in systems engineering and understand how requirements are meet in a test. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:59 PM,

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Axil Axil wrote: Well then, your whole line of argument involving half filled pipes, > ventilation holes, fans, people dying from heat exhaustion really is a > waste of time for yourself and everybody else. > What are you talking about? Rossi claimed the device was producing

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Well then, your whole line of argument involving half filled pipes, ventilation holes, fans, people dying from heat exhaustion really is a waste of time for yourself and everybody else. You are wasting megatones of internet ink for no proper effect. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Jed Rothwell

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Axil Axil wrote: An power output of 3 KW would still meet the licence requirements. > The input was ~20 kW. Do you mean a power output of 23 kW would satisfy the requirements? I am sure that if I.H. had measured 23 kW with confidence, and Rossi had transferred the IP, they

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An power output of 3 KW would still meet the licence requirements. Can't you understand that power level is not required? Your arguments are classic red herring propaganda. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > >

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Axil Axil wrote: The is no power requirement defined in the licence agreement. As long as > the steam temperature is 100C and the COP is greater than 4, then > requirements are meet. > A COP of 4 would mean the output is 80 kW. The room would be quite warm if there were this

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The is no power requirement defined in the licence agreement. As long as the steam temperature is 100C and the COP is greater than 4, then requirements are meet. The reactor could be off for 23.95 hours, be when it functions, it must been the "100C and the COP is greater than 4" requirement. Your

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On 09/18/2016 04:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote: *From:*Peter Gluck Ødear Jones,some 10% of the sum in dispute usually goes to the attorney, lawyers, hudges...everywhere. Very funny. I mistook this for a serious discussion… Hasn't been that, for at least a couple months. It is clear that

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From: Peter Gluck Ø dear Jones, some 10% of the sum in dispute usually goes to the attorney, lawyers, hudges...everywhere. Very funny. I mistook this for a serious discussion… unless you are implying that this trial will cost Rossi and IH together about $10 million, no matter what

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I mean to say: 1.4 tons of steam cannot magically disappear. It has to be released to the atmosphere, and NO heat plume was detected. No plume of hot air or steam. This would be easy to detect. It would be impossible to hide. There is no reason why Rossi would hide it, as I said. He claimed that

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Peter Gluck wrote: > The photos up;oaded have nothing to do with the plant . . . > You are wrong. Those are photos of the plant, and the plant ceiling, which has no ventilation equipment capable of removing 1 MW, or even 100 kW. I am sure those are photos of the plant.

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Jed, The photos up;oaded have nothing to do with the plant, you must know well the diagram and half full pipes are not good even as joke The idea of not pressurized is a new ineptness. Kind of kitschy vaudeville. Are you aware that if Rosi does not explain thee nergy consuume to the Judge the

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Peter Gluck wrote: You cannot go to a Trial with incredible storiesas half full pipes in the > plant (you defended it heroically but I am convinced you do not take it > seriously) > Of course I am serious. I have uploaded photos of half-full pipes. This pipe is not

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dear Jones, some 10% of the sum in dispute usually goes to the attorney, lawyers, hudges...everywhere. Te problem depends on the reality of the technology of Rossi and on the billionaire or not statuses of Darden and Vaughn. peter On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Jones Beene

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To be brutally honest – why should any of us waste time over the minutiae of this case? It’s all about “billable hours” … and if anything changes before the trial, usually it’s less likely to favor the plaintiff. The going rate for top corporate law firms is over $1000 per hour. (Forbes

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Thanks! What has surprised me (beyond the genuine legal aspects) was the chlorotic (weakling) character of their arguments as I have shown in my EGO OUT editorials of: Sep 06- "A Stake in Dracula's Heart..(Exhibit 5); Sep 13- Myths of proofs You cannot go to a Trial with incredible storiesas

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Peter Gluck wrote: you can now prove that you have good sources of information; > can you please explain Item 49 from the Miami Court pacermaker > explaining us what has Cherokee et al withdrawn and especially WHY? > I know nothing about laws or lawsuits, and I have not

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Jed, you can now prove that you have good sources of information; can you please explain Item 49 from the Miami Court pacermaker explaining us what has Cherokee et al withdrawn and especially WHY? Is this an "elastic" withdrawal? Anyway it sounds not well for "somebody" claiming to have 6 aces in

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a.ashfield wrote: > I don't know where you are getting your information from but it looks to > me that others in academia are taking a wait and see stand rather than > dismissing Rossi as you do. > I get my information from the researchers. I meet with them every few

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Jed, I don't know where you are getting your information from but it looks to me that others in academia are taking a wait and see stand rather than dismissing Rossi as you do. It also seems there is more research going on in Ni/LAH/Li systems with other governments now starting to back it.

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Axil Axil wrote: LENR should breakup into two independent sects, the Rossi sect and the > Rothwell sect. > That is more or less what has happened. However, you should not call it the "Rothwell sect." That gives the impression that I am part of a minority, or that I somehow

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Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: A researcher with a good experiment should contact I.H. They might fund the >> research. No one else will. No government will. >> > > Once burned twice shy. > > Do you really think I.H. would take another flier on cold fusion at this > point? > They

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LENR should breakup into two independent sects, the Rossi sect and the Rothwell sect. Each of these sects should ignore the other. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > On 09/16/2016 03:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> >> A researcher with a good

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On 09/16/2016 03:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: A researcher with a good experiment should contact I.H. They might fund the research. No one else will. No government will. Once burned twice shy. Do you really think I.H. would take another flier on cold fusion at this point? Rossi did a

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Peter Gluck wrote: It happens I thought first about the classic LENR community. > You might as well try to herd cats. > But your idea can be taken in consideration, what about a league and a > movement of Sucessful Competitors of the Rossi Technology- as claimed by >

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It happens I thought first about the classic LENR community. But your idea can be taken in consideration, what about a league and a movement of Sucessful Competitors of the Rossi Technology- as claimed by Rossi? If unity pro goes with difficulty perhaps unity against something is more stimulative?

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One should not judge without all info. One does not need to believe that AR has anything, but 'we sure as hell should' give him the right to prove himself before judgement. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire,

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We sure as hell do should not unify behind Rossi, if that is what you are thinking. If researchers endorse flimflam artists such as Rossi and Defkalion it will be the end of cold fusion. - Jed