Re: [WSG] .net question

Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great insight. I will try to a collaborative aproach with the developer. I know that a in a previous situation with another developer we used repeaters to output standards code, i would like to be able to stick css possitioning into a form repeater for him. im not

[WSG] .net question

hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. we can't control database content all we can do is contain it that was his argument. why cant he contain it

Re: [WSG] .net question

Rachel Yes the comments have been helpful, basically confirming my suspicions. If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there

Re: [WSG] .net question

adam wrote: Perhaps you should encourage some development of a collection of base controls for your development team? yes i will make a case for this, any suggestions for my arguments??? basically need to sell the project manager who is cool but only concerned with the bottom line. The

Re: [WSG] .net question

thanks ben, ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing something with css then it goes out the window for a table, would you just use p's and h's instead of the definition list in the middle column body text? I dont know about using the table for the special

[WSG] targeting link class problem

hello, How would i target a:hover on the following links? I tried a few things but cant get down to the classes(one, two). div id=navcontainershort ul li a href=# class=onebla bla/a/li li a href=# class=twobla/a/li

Re: [WSG] targeting link class problem

thanks russ and crew, my mistake was that i was putting the class first... like this .one ul li a:hover{ background-color: #88CAEF; } -kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

to agree to an increase. thanks kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

thanks george, your the man. -will do on the fixed font sizes -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

Re: [WSG] CSS and Flash

, your prob right but what about that flash as a css background someone was posting about here a while back?? -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] help with jello mold

://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/final.css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/theme.css -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

sorry fixed it..been up to long ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

-best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

fixed the body tag. still no help. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

did you test it in firefox yet? In ff your footer seems to break way out of the wrapper. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

sorry please disregard that last observation i made about your footer breaking. i had another style sheet loaded into the page by accident looks good ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

personally always up the text a couple sizes for easier reading using command +- in ff. would be cool to implement something that allowed users to do the same in ie. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

Lisa forgot to put the sarcasm tags around her content. She wasn't being serious there... ...lisa please stop horsing around... i guess i will have to research the issue more... try and find the balance.. -best kvn ** The discussion list

RE: [WSG] site check

felix, dont mean to throw another log on the fire...but i think the font size can vary somewhat depending on the nature of the content. -best kvn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] site check

hello i have a site that i need a bit of advice on, i got some great help here allready for it. ..1st it dosnt validate right now but i will get it to pass after i address some other issues. the site was critiqued rather harshly by a third party consultant- here is the original email. -not

RE: [WSG] site check

thanks guys, Yes we did double check and make sure he checked the right site. at first i thought he surely must have been checking the old site... http://www.families.ie/ but no he was checking the right url. The consultant is an employee of the irish government.nevermind i wont go there.

RE: [WSG] site check

I will do as josh suggested. Actually using flash is a good idea for the maps especially as they are going national and will have all counties in the republic on there. The you are here is a breadcrumb that has yet to be programmed. good idea on using positioned text instead of the image map

RE: [WSG] site check

What did Felix advise? He's right as far as he went. There's another serious accessibility problem he didn't touch on, plus a corollary, which you can see in the screenshot. In your CSS is an accessibility issue, as well as one of manners: 'body {font:75%...'. Browser makers provide users with

RE: [WSG] CSS Holy Gruel

Hi Al, nice layout, future proof and all, The only bummer is that it sets off my i.e content blocker. -looked at the javascript and my vision got blurry. Is there anything to look out for when playing with the column widths? -thanks kvnmcwebn

[WSG] semantic help needed

dd Fax: 074 9374103/dd ddWeb Site: Click to view./dd dd Email: Send Email../dd /dl -thanks kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

RE: [WSG] semantic help needed

Paul- I think your initial DT element is widowed and needs at least one DD before the next DT because it functions as the title for the entire subsequent structure. This looks like two-level nesting to me, and I'd tend to mark it up like this: kvn- I think you hit the nail on the head, i knew

RE: [WSG] Target sued over non-accessible site

engines to consider but unless im mistaken my biggest concern when using javascript is to do it unobtrusively so as not to set off blockers. is this skewed? -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] IE7 Compatibility Team

Have other site owners received any similar contact from the IE7CPTTM yet? no can you share yours? best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

[WSG] round corner links

of the button text and then use css for the background or is there some way of getting all 3 images in the css as background images? best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

RE: [WSG] Standards Savvy Shopping Cart

hello, does the ie7 beta allow scaling of fonts set in pixels? -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] IE7 hacks

jay wrote, Does it make sense to be considering hacks yet? Well someone here (no names :) told me a while back that the *hmtl hack was ie future proof so maybe not. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] list's with header text

lia href=#Clubs/a/li . /ul so on... /div What is the proper heading to use(h1, h2, h3)? -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

RE: [WSG] list's with header text

ok thanks, just to clarify a point: what odds that the ul id have a semantically suitable name-beside making sense to people working in the code after me? -thanks again kvnmcewbn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] Background-Image download order

stylesheet? would that make any sense? kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] list's with header text

patrick wrote As someone already mentioned, the source order should be enough to inform what the heading refers to, without the need for explicit association. sorry i dont understand this could someone please explain? -best kvnmcwebn

[WSG] what cms system

Siteframe TYPO3 Xoops These are the options I can automatically install with a hosting package. Should i use one of these or try and setup text pattern on my own? -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list

[WSG] ufo flash adding padding/

hello all, Im using the ufo flash embed method.Something is adding about 30px of padding or height to the top of my swf. If i resize the dimensions in the html it takes from the top and bottom of the movie so that some of the swf is cut off at the bottom. heres the page 209.200.102.116 any

RE: [WSG] ufo flash adding padding/

oops problem solved, my fault.. - hello all, Im using the ufo flash embed method.Something is adding about 30px of padding or height to the top of my swf. If i resize the dimensions in the html it takes from the top and bottom of the movie so that some of the swf is cut off at the bottom.

RE: [WSG] ufo flash adding padding/

This might be something to do with the Flash items on the lower right, because they flickered around where the nav items were before positioning themselves properly: thanks, i hadnt noticed that, hopefully when i embed those using the ufo system it will solve the flickering. -best kvnmcwebn

RE: Tabluar forms WAS: Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

fieldset legendWhat's your favourite colour?/legend input type=radio name=colour id=colour_black value=black / label for=colour_blackblack/label input type=radio name=colour id=colour_white value=white / label for=colour_whitewhite/label /fieldset I just made a form

[WSG] flash popup blockers

. Maybe OT but i thought i try here first. best -Kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] pdf graphics

are the graphics vectors? Opening from Adobe illustrator would keep everything nice and editable. -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

RE: [WSG] New to web standards and CSS

on your page but i have recently built a page with the same problem but more pronounced. Any idea on what causes this and how to fix it? It only happens once then you need to refresh to see it again. thanks kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http

[WSG] missing image in ie

*/ /*\*/ overflow: hidden; /* no neetd for Mac IE5 to see this */ } got the code from frames w/o frames site and its become a bit messy as ive been editing it, changing ems to pixels and so on. any help would be appreciated. thanks kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply

Patrick wrote: Any new developments should really be done in a strict doctype, IMHO. How difficult is it to jump to strict from transitional doctypes? Is it a whole other ballgame or just a matter of dotting your t's and crossing your i's? -best kvnmwebn

RE: [WSG] : Problem with attribute BORDER in movint to strict mode. (the dotting of t's)

hello, try li img{border:0px;} -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] page check

www.mcmonagle.bix/mockup/index6.css thanks again -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] page check

for the footer instead of defining its height. thanks again. I see a couple more things that i will fix, then i have to fire it over to the .net guy, who will probably add validation errors;{ http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/families/final11.htm (links are somewhat active) -best kvnmcwebn

[WSG] page check

. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] page check

/index6.css www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/nav2.css Thanks a mill kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

honestly say that my knowlege of standards, such as it is, is starting to generate SUBSTANTIAL business for me. My ws goal in 2006 is to become comfortable with liquid layouts an maybe even start using ems instead of px. nollaig seona duith kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

best things i learned this year- 1)the star selector hack and before that the underscore hack ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the

[WSG] search box(text area) form width

this might be a bit of dumb question anyideas on how to get this keyword search box any narrower in ie? something like it is in firefox http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final6.htm http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css (ie code for search box at bottom of stylesheet) -best kvnmcwebn

[WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

hello all, just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element and some unordered lists. easy enough in ff but negative margins dont seem to budge the ul in ie. example html http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final5.htm css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css

RE: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

Not looked at your CSS, but...there's really no need to get out negative margins. Have you set the bottom margin (and padding) of the h3 and the top margin (and padding) of the ul (and possibly the li elements therein)? i just set all of the above to 0 and it worked. thanks patrick

[WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap

The change below worked for me. .mainleft ul { margin-top: 0px; thanks paul that simplifies it, also i always get stuck with these crazy navition schemes. The client signed of on this layout with different content then came back with loads more subcategory links then he had

RE: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

Negative margins will always come back to haunt you later :D I suppose I was cutting corners using them...its just that sometimes they seem to save a lot of hassle-probably because i dont have a deep enough understanding of document flow and such. thanks kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap

paul and samuel, thanks for the sound advice, i will put it to good use. I just realized that basically the home page is a site map right now! -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

When we build sites, unconsciously we use patterns all the time - it's just very little work has been done trying to capture and document them. dosnt ted drakes standardista rollyo search thingy sorta do this? -Kevin MacMahongail (pronounced macmonagle-sort of:)

RE: [WSG] Site Check please

pretty cool jay, what about the top links bottom border disapearing on the hover though? -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

RE: [WSG] Site Check please

kvnmcwebn,Are you talking about my site: http://www.smashingred.com or Joe's site: http://www.sitesbyjoe.com ? sorryimeant joe not jay,

RE: [WSG] New logo scheme was talking points for standards

Personally, I don't think the logos Do It - they are too techie and Joe Average doesn't see what they mean. i like the approach of this site that uses text links(footer) in the overal style of the site http://www.monc.se/work/ ** The

RE: [WSG] talking points for standards

The processes of building a site with standards cool. Best practices that cover every stage from planning to customer sign off that can be found on this lists posts and moderators/members sites. For me it makes job turnaround smoother and quicker.

[WSG] liquid widths

Im only starting to play around with liquid layouts. I like this 3 column example that uses min widths. For non-mozilla browsers it uses horizontal rules to set the min scaling of the boxes. It then hides these from browser that support min width, it seems a bit reduntant to me but.

RE: Fw: [WSG] Call for Site Check

get you a good color aswell. Well thats what i would try anyway -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

RE: [WSG] Input Desired

hello, nice work, but instead of scaling the entire masthead image why not just have the images float over to the right? and then the brown background under the the text image would getwider? -best kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] Call for Site Check

cool site, just a minor observation, the strong orange color is used alot, on main links, heads so on. Maybe throw another color into the mix to differentiate between hyperlinks and heads. maybe FFCC00, -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion

RE: [WSG] Radio New Zealand site relaunch

The way that it uses the white space is nice ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to

RE: [WSG] OT - Understanding the Website Flow

-they could do an introductory tutorial or two. This one is good though maybe its not exactly what your looking for. http://joshuaink.com/blog/196/a-simple-guide-to-3-column-layouts ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

Just a thought, but if all the links are counties within a greater whole, why not use a happy map image map interface? Thats a-okay standards-wise, and degrades nicely into a list of links, and looks cute for visitors. Joe there is a mapping system done w/ flash, i have to tie that in as well.

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

Nice script. What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it? It is brilliant Lachlan i'd like to use it to if you don't mind. -best -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

that i thought might work but they are not impressed. (view in ie) http://mcmonagle.biz/newoti/otinavtest.htm what about these simpler methods? thanks again kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

0 November 2005 19:34To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] jump menu methodIf you have to do it this way, and like everyone else I don't recommend it, then you could help the SEO by adding the pages in link tags to the head.see http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_link.asp fo

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

in the link attribute? ..it could be hotels/county gives a better result in navigation terms This makes sense but this particular site has a lot of categories and sub categories, almost as many as counties... thanks a million -kvnmcwebn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] jump menu method

will do- thanks again terrence ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

[WSG] horizontal scroll on menu

Hello, A client has requested that a long menu be contained in a fixed hieght situation with a vertical scroll bar. Im doing a test with code from the list o matic site. Heres an example. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/otinavtest.htm the problem is that its hard to loose the horizontal scroll bar

RE: [WSG] horizontal scroll on menu

brillant thanks, Adding overflow: hidden; to .navcontainer ul does exactly what i need it to in firefox-i.e didnt respond to it. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/otinavtest.htm Ted: Adding the overflow: y-scroll property takes care of ff and ie. -thanks Joseph: I tried wrapping the lot in the

RE: [WSG] Divs over Flash in Safari

hello, im not sure if this will help and im not sure if it would validate but read this http://www.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?p=3284355#post3284355 -best -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] Page Check: www.qm-consulting.co.uk/test/indextest

designer to work more visual elements into your site and improve the overall look and feel? good idea: another option is to look for pre-designedtemplates(cringe)-free or otherwise. -kvnmcwebn

[WSG] firefox ignoring my stylesheet

hello, any ideas why firefox is ignoring my external stylesheet. It was working fine, i did something stupid. -Kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

[WSG] firefox ignoring my stylesheet

sorry i fired that off without the url. here is the page that is hiding the external stylesheet from firefox somehow. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/index5.htm

RE: [WSG] firefox ignoring my stylesheet

kvnmcwebn also i will start validating my css as well as the html. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] standards, accessability and validation?

as a requirement so it is possible that a client could take legal action at some stage. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

RE: [WSG] standards, accessability and validation?

It does take more time and effort for the programmer. Even after the learning process is completed? big help-thanks kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

[WSG] standards, accessability and validation?

they mark up my designs and ad the vb .net code a typical page will be running validation errors in the hundreds. I told them that they need to start with web standards and get thier pages to validate before they start on accessability. Was that sound advice? -best kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] standards, accessability and validation?

Thanks seona and josh, .although when they say accessibility they are probably thinking of screen readers and users who can't use a mouse, accessibility also includes being able to access the information and basic functionality of a site in numerous browsing devices.

[WSG] div auto scaling question

;} also i tried max width if you need a visual here it is http://www.mcmonagle.biz/newindex5.htm -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

RE: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com

looks nice, on my dialup connection it loads a bit slow, not to to bad. Maybe the masthead jpeg could be compressed a bit more. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

% height problem on my own. I tried converting 3 column stretched width layouts to vertical a vertical format buy no joy. Right now I'm trying another fixed height version but its a big comprimize in the look im going for. Hope to get some good advice here. -kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

thanks georg that brilliant. i slightly modified some source from the frames with no frames site because it used more block elements than yours. you can check out the basic template that i created if you like http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final9.htm I should have asked sooner. -best kvnmcwebn

[WSG] 3 row(div) liquid vertical layout w/drop shadows-help-

div dosn't resize. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm In this example the middle div resizes but the shadows break. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm Does anyone have suggestions to simplify this? thanks in advance -best kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] 3 row(div) liquid vertical layout w/drop shadows-help-

sorry thats http://mcmonagle.biz/test.htm http://mcmonagle.biz/test2.htm

RE: [WSG] 3 row(div) liquid vertical layout w/drop shadows-help-

sorry all, i've foundthetutorial that might help me with this problem so i will try and figure it out on my own. thanks

RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)

-nice grids andvery quick download time. I had one questioin about the use of thetables. Could you explain how this helps? We use a table to render the main content. However, the real content will be displayed first because it spans over 2 lines 2 rows of the table).

RE: [WSG] Using CSS for Flash backgrounds

Andrew I'd much rather use a limited palette PNG via CSS than cross my fingers and hope that Flash's JPEG algorithm doesn't destroy my image Agreed the jpg comppressor in flash is brutal on lower and med quality but why not use the png in flash? Obviously this wouldnt work if

RE: [WSG] Using CSS for Flash backgrounds

'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the worst things you can do.' I think that was meant as an example. If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it could be really useful. Maybe just have some image substitution for opera until a solution is found.

[WSG] computer arts mag article/review

Hello list, I picked up last months edition of computer arts, theres an article about creating liquid css layouts. dissapointing really, didnt got into detail. Also there was a review of Dreamweaver 8. CSS tools beefed up with a new css previewer. Looks good anybody used it yet? -kvnmcwebn

RE: [WSG] computer arts mag article/review

to change something after im 30 pages into a site. I guess part of my question is when do you know the design is there from a wsg point of view? Is it when you know the client will go wow that looks nice? maybe this is o.t. and too subjective a topic - up late -kvnmcwebn

[WSG] a: class border width problem

; border-bottom: 0px; } /*html*/ ul id=drNav li class=cornera href=webhome.htm Web amp br/ Screen/a/li -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

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