Back in - let me see - round about - goodness, could have been 30 years ago - The Lancet published an item saying that on examining cancers from some women (forget whether ovaries or uterus) they had found sharp particles of talc in the very centre of them. They reasoned that this was probably from when the women were babies and were showered with lots of baby talc.

Looking for the reference to the article via Google I see:

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119695394/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 TALC AND CARCINOMA OF THE OVARY AND CERVIX An extraction-replication technique was used to examine tissue from patients with ovarian and cervical tumours. In both conditions talc particles were found deeply embedded within the tumour tissue. The close association of talc to the asbestos group of minerals is of interest. COSMETIC TALC AND OVARIAN CANCER - Elsevier by DL Longo - 1979 - Cited by 57 - The Lancet Controversy COSMETIC TALC AND OVARIAN CANCER D.L. Longo R.C. Young Medicine ... ORIGIN OF OVARIAN TUMOURS The ovarian epithelium is derived from ...linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S014067367990357X
BMJ more recently: http://jech.bmj.com/content/62/4/358.full?rss=1
Perineal use of talc and risk of ovarian cancer
s its physical form and does not imply the presence of asbestos. The purer forms (approximately 90% mineral talc) are used for cosmetic and hygiene products including baby powders and feminine hygiene products. Perineal use of cosmetic talc is a common practice in the United Kingdom, North America, Australia and some other countries. To our knowledge accurate estimates of prevalence of use of cosmetic talc are not available. However, the use for female hygiene of body powders, baby powders, talcum powders and deodorising powder, most of which contain cosmetic talc in varying amounts, has been reported to be as high as 50% in some countries.3

From pathological studies it is known that particles and fibres that enter the body can migrate to distant organs. For instance, asbestos fibres have been found in ovaries from women exposed to asbestos.4 5 Analogously, following perineal application, talc particles can migrate from the vagina to the peritoneal cavity and ovaries.6 A majority of women experience retrograde menstruation7; this suggests a mechanism by which talc particles can travel through the female reproductive tract to the ovaries. Furthermore, epidemiological studies have shown decreased risks of ovarian cancer after tubal ligation and/or hysterectomy, suggesting that removing a pathway by which carcinogenic substances can reach the ovaries reduces the risk. The association between talc use in the perineal region and ovarian cancer was investigated in one cohort study, case-control studies.In the cohort study, arguably the strongest study because of its partly prospective ascertainment of exposure, there was no .......

Information on talc use in infancy is generally insufficient in the case-control studies. However, in one study the exposure to baby powder was reported by 42.2% of the cases and 40.5% of the controls. In several of the other studies patients were asked about age at first use of perineal talc, as an indicator for use in infancy or other periods of life.

Only four case-control studiesand one cohort study10 provided results by histological type. In four of these studies, in particular the cohort study, there were hints of higher risks of serous tumours related to talc exposure.

Before 1976, talc was to some extent contaminated with asbestos, so that the early studies relating talc to ovarian cancer may have been confounded by the asbestos. However, the association between talc exposure and ovarian cancer is as strong in recent studies, as in earlier ones, diminishing the likelihood that all these results are influenced by contamination of talc by asbestos.

... women who used talc experienced excess risks of ovarian cancer; some results were statistically significant and some were not. There was some indication in the cohort study of an increase in serous tumours. The evidence of talc migrating to the ovaries lends credibility to such a possible association. . ... All leading to their conclusion that .... evidence is insufficient to establish a causal association between perineal use of talc and ovarian cancer risk

Respiratory failure due to insufflated talc.

The following queries were raised in the link and a DHS reply basically said there was no real problem.

http://www.sexualhealth.com/question/read/20532/ A while back a friend of mine brought to my attention an item which you published on the possible link between condoms and cancer in women (WDDTY, vol 6 no 2). If this is true it must be the greatest medical scandal of all time. ....Talc is used in the manufacture of latex goods both as a lubricant and to release the product from the mould used in its manufacture. The use of talc on surgical gloves was virtually eliminated early in the 1990s since there was evidence that it created inflammation and adhesions in some surgical patients (Arch Dermatol, 1994; 130: 48-53). Although some condom manufacturers still use talc as a dry lubricant, others use dry lubricants such as silicone and cornstarch. ... The harmful effects of talc on human tissue were first recorded in the 1930s. Thirty years later there was a reported case of a woman who had a significant amount of talc in her peritoneal (abdominal) cavity talc which matched that found on the surface of her husband's condoms (Lancet, 1963; 1: 1295-6). The authors concluded that talc travelled up through the fallopian tubes and became implanted in the peritoneal cavity. They also predicted that talc might contribute to occlusion (blockage) and sterility. A more ominous series of studies linked talc to ovarian cancer talc was observed in a number of ovarian and uterine tumours as well as in ovarian tissue (Lancet, 1979; 2: 349-51; J Ob Gyn Br Commonwealth, 1971; 78: 266-72) and it has since been confirmed that talc, either placed on the perineum (or on the surface of underwear, sanitary towels, diaphragms or condoms), can reach the ovaries via ascent through the fallopian tubes (Am J Epidem, 1989; 130-394; Ob Gyn, July 1992). There has been little attention paid to the possibility of damage to the male urogenital tract through regular condom use, although this also remains a distinct possibility. .......... Two interesting things emerged from these correspondences. First, under examination, many of these talc free condoms had other particles on them, such as vegetable starches, silica, mica and diatomaceous earth. One brand contained numerous lycopodium (club moss) spores. Spores of the club moss were used as absorbents in surgical glove donning powders earlier this century, but the practice was abandoned when it was shown that lycopodium caused granulomas (small fibrous growths) and peritoneal adhesions (the abdominal organs become inflamed and begin to stick together) (Arch Pathol, 1933; 16:326-31; J Cutan Pathol, 1988; 15: 120-3). Q:A while back a friend of mine brought to my attention an item which you published on the possible link between condoms and cancer in women (WDDTY, vol 6 no 2). If this is true it must be the greatest medical scandal of all time. I would like to kn A:The British "kite mark" is an assurance of quality control (ie, your condom is unlikely to break or leak). It does not necessarily ensure that your condom is free from harmful substances. Your GP should review articles published in the medical press recently which have concerned themselves with the process of moulding latex into things such as condoms and surgical gloves a process which involves the use of talc, cornstarch and other powders. The truth is that no one knows what risks we may face because of the long term use of condoms. It has only been in the last few years, as condom use has increased due to the fear of sexually transmitted diseases, that it has become an issue.

Talc is used in the manufacture of latex goods both as a lubricant and to release the product from the mould used in its manufacture. The use of talc on surgical gloves was virtually eliminated early in the 1990s since there was evidence that it created inflammation and adhesions in some surgical patients (Arch Dermatol, 1994; 130: 48-53). Although some condom manufacturers still use talc as a dry lubricant, others use dry lubricants such as silicone and cornstarch.

The harmful effects of talc on human tissue were first recorded in the 1930s. Thirty years later there was a reported case of a woman who had a significant amount of talc in her peritoneal (abdominal) cavity talc which matched that found on the surface of her husband's condoms (Lancet, 1963; 1: 1295-6). The authors concluded that talc travelled up through the fallopian tubes and became implanted in the peritoneal cavity. They also predicted that talc might contribute to occlusion (blockage) and sterility. A more ominous series of studies linked talc to ovarian cancer talc was observed in a number of ovarian and uterine tumours as well as in ovarian tissue (Lancet, 1979; 2: 349-51; J Ob Gyn Br Commonwealth, 1971; 78: 266-72) and it has since been confirmed that talc, either placed on the perineum (or on the surface of underwear, sanitary towels, diaphragms or condoms), can reach the ovaries via ascent through the fallopian tubes (Am J Epidem, 1989; 130-394; Ob Gyn, July 1992). There has been little attention paid to the possibility of damage to the male urogenital tract through regular condom use, although this also remains a distinct possibility.

In 1995, Dr Candace Sue Kaspar produced two reports on the possible adverse effects of talc in condoms (JAMA, 1995; 273: 846-7; JAMA 1995; 274: 1269-70). Many condom manufacturers were quick to get in touch with Dr Kaspar to point out that they no longer used talc or were phasing out its use.

Two interesting things emerged from these correspondences. First, under examination, many of these talc free condoms had other particles on them, such as vegetable starches, silica, mica and diatomaceous earth. One brand contained numerous lycopodium (club moss) spores. Spores of the club moss were used as absorbents in surgical glove donning powders earlier this century, but the practice was abandoned when it was shown that lycopodium caused granulomas (small fibrous growths) and peritoneal adhesions (the abdominal organs become inflamed and begin to stick together) (Arch Pathol, 1933; 16:326-31; J Cutan Pathol, 1988; 15: 120-3).

Moreover, as Kaspar and colleagues pointed out, lycopodium can be contaminated with talc, sulphur and/or gypsum. Lycopodium has not been linked with cancer, but is associated with inflammation of the soft tissues. There are other problems with what is touted as the world's safest contraceptive device. Increasingly it is becoming associated with contact dermatitis in both men and women. In one study 24 per cent of those who regularly used condoms experienced local swelling and/or itching during intercourse (Contact Derm, 1989; 20: 360-4). There have also been reports of allergic reactions to talc substitutes, such as cornstarch, used in their production (Cutis, 1986; 38: 291-3)........... In fact, cornstarch has been implicated in hypersensitivity reactions in patients whose surgeons use gloves dusted with it (Br J Surg, 1976; 63: 864-6) as well as granulomas in various organs throughout the body ......... According to research, talc on condom can cause ovarian cancer, ovarian/uterine tumors, and uterine abnormalities which can all lead to miscarriage





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