Robert, I know. When a person counters a rabid nuker they are an environmentalist. When a person counters those who express environmentally enclined sentiments they are a troll. ;-)
"And unlike the wind farm in the Altamont Pass east of San Francisco, where smaller, low-power turbine blades have killed an estimated 22,000 birds, High Winds' turbines rotate more slowly, so few birds get caught." http://www.n-jcenter.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Enviro/03FloridaENV01010404.htm Don't know precisely where they got their reference from. But me thinks that such a number from but one wind farm, albeit a windfarm first built in the days of yore, represents more than just a "few." Fact is that this problem was, is and will continue to remain a problem of consideration in siting wind turbines. That's the "perspective" (Alan's post) that it has to be placed in. Trying to rationalize away reality or numbers until a situation fits our "perspective" is not the most intelligent of approaches. That's the type of behavior that a pro-nuker would exhibit - throw out the high (Chernobyl) and the low (pick one) and count everything else as relative. That's also the mindset out of which "acceptable risk" was born and how words like "significant," "insignificant" and "addressed" assume levels of import far beyond what they should be allowed. They are all affiliated in the process of dismissal and denial, not reality, honesty and/or truth. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE: turbines kill birds > > > Appal Energy wrote: > > > It's a fact, not a myth. Altamonte Pass,California, and numerous > > other > > places have run into this problem. All industrial farm turbines. > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > There have been a few documented raptor kills in the Altamont Pass. > No one really knows why this happens, but the prevailing theory when I > lived in California (most recently in the Napa Valley, which is > relatively close to the Altamont Pass) is that raptors become intensely > focused on their prey and may not actually SEE the turning blades. Much > work has been done since those days (I've lived in Canada for over ten > years now) to slow the rate at which the big turbines spin, and this > seems to ameliorate the raptor kill problem. > > > robert luis rabello > "The Edge of Justice" > Adventure for Your Mind > http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
