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>I'm  in southeastern Michigan (USA) and farmers, being the independent
>and often bullheaded lot they are, just don't want to believe that you
>can do it any other way.
>
>I  have a 5 acre hay field which I let my neighbor work for 2 years. I
>told  him we did not allow pesticides or herbicides of any sort and he
>told  me  that  he thought it would be a pretty poor alfalfa field. He
>thought that the leaf hoppers would decimate the alfalfa. When he came
>to  bale  he was surprised as there was minimal damage to the crop. We
>were  talking  later  and he asked me why his fields were hit with the
>leaf   hopper  and  mine  not  and  I  remembered  Yasanobu  Fukuoka's
>description of his fields in the morning with the dew sparkling on the
>spider  webs which covered his fields. Just like the cobwebs sparkling
>in  the  dew  in  my  hay  field.  The spiders did the work. A natural
>balance.   A comment somewhat related:  I remember an occasion back in
>the  '80's  when I was talking with a group of old farmers all of whom
>had happened along and pulled their autos over to speak with me and my
>landlord.   There  was  a  drainage  tile coming out of the field with
>water  running  out  of  it.   My landlord said that he could remember
>being  a  child  and drinking out of that tile but given the chemicals
>used  on  the  fields now he wouldn't even rinse his hands off in that
>water  let  alone  drink  it.   Everyone  agreed  with him.  I was the
>"youngster"  in the group only in my 40's so I just kept my mouth shut
>and listened. :o)
>
>I  also heard on Public Radio about a long study, somewhere between 10
>and  20  years-memory  fails  at  the  moment, where it was shown that
>organic  farming  on a family farm (40 acres +) gave crop yields at or
>above the natural average.  Unfortunately I was in the auto in traffic
>and could neither tape the program nor write down any information.
>
>I live close to the Amish and have many friends among them.  They have
>shown  that  one  man  with  a good team of horses can take care of 80
>acres  and that horses are even better than tractors in many instances
>particularly  when the fields are wet and tractors cannot get into the
>fields.   One  interesting  note.   The  Amish,  with  certain limited
>exceptions,  have  stayed  away  from  combines  and  thresh  instead.
>Combining  takes  one person to drive the tractor and another to drive
>the  truck  while  threshing  takes many people.  The reason the Amish
>thresh  is  to  build  community  and  co-operation.   The  family and
>community aspects are much higher up the totem pole than the economic.
>
>Happy Happy,
>
>Gustl



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