+1 2011/6/21 Fabien Potencier <fabien.potenc...@symfony-project.com>
> On 6/10/11 2:32 PM, Georg wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am not yet using sf2. >> >> I am quite frustrated with the mailing list ATM. >> >> I used to read the mailing list along to help people when I knew >> something, learned a few tricks from answers by others, and had a place >> to get quick answers. >> >> Now on most mails I don't even understand the subject, I don't bother to >> find the mails where I could help, and i don't ask anymore, because >> obviously most sf1 users act in the same way as I do. >> Check how many sf1 questions were asked and answered 5 moth ago and now. >> This could either mean that nobody is using sf1 any more (which I doubt) >> or the list is not working for sf1 people any more (which is the case >> IMO). >> >> [RANT]I wonder what are the things that are shared between symfony 1 and >> symfony 2? That both are a PHP MVC framework and have the same name? >> TO me this feels like if I had a single mailing list for Drupal and >> Typo3, because both are PHP CMS[/RANT] >> > > Yes and no. They share the same philosophy but the implementation details > are different. The web evolves very fast and so the framework should also > evolve. > > > [RANT2]Check > http://www.symfony-project.**org/installation<http://www.symfony-project.org/installation> >> : >> sf1.4 is the only stable symfony version ATM, and is supported until >> november 2012. I strongly hope (even if I have a different feeling), >> that at least until mid 2012, sf1 is not treated as legacy. There isn't >> even an update possible, I am afraid that companies will rethink their >> decision to develop in symfony if they are left standing in the rain. >> > > symfony1 is very stable and the few pain points are not really fixable > without badly breaking BC. I review all the tickets and I've done some bug > fixes in the last few weeks on symfony 1.4. But frankly, there is not a lot > to do. Anyway, we are about to release a new version of symfony 1.4 > including these minor fixes. > > > (Yes, I know this mail >> http://groups.google.com/**group/symfony-devs/msg/**f13ab956a61567cc<http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs/msg/f13ab956a61567cc>by >> fabien, let me quote: >> [QUOTE]Keep in mind that symfony is an Open-Source project, so everybody >> can contribute and scratch its itch. The core developers and all plugin >> developers are all working for free. Of course, Sensio sponsors the >> framework, of course it dedicates a lot of time and money to it, and of >> it can even provide extended support for all versions for companies >> willing to pay. And do you know how many companies, except Sensio >> customers, signed up for extended support in the last 2 years? None! >> Yep, that's right, not a single one. [/QUOTE] >> [/RANT2] >> >> That's why I would like to have symfony-users and syomfony2-users as >> opposed to symfony-legacy-users. >> >> As always, keep up the great work. And I will switch to sf2, when it is >> stable (and probably has 1 as minor version number ;-) or when the >> *symfony2-users* list doesn't complain too much). But I will be stuck >> with sf1 for quite a long time with existing projects. And as pointed >> out above, I don't feel they have a lot together. >> > > I've been thinking about this mailing-list issue a lot during the last few > months and I'm still convinced that creating more mailing-lists is not the > right solution. Anyway, as many people think the contrary, here is what I > propose now: > > We create two new mailing-lists: one for symfony1 and one for Symfony2. To > be clear, this mailing-list (symfony-users) will die. That way, there is no > "legacy" mailing-list, all symfony users will be treated the same way: they > will have to do something about their subscription. > > If everybody agree, I will start the migration and send invitations for all > current subscribers. > > Cheers, > Fabien > > > Regards >> Georg >> >> Am 10.06.2011 07:24, schrieb Fabien Potencier: >> >>> On 6/9/11 10:17 PM, Chris Sedlmayr wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I don't think we are against the idea of creating a Symfony2 specific >>>> group, but we must ensure that finding help in the right place is the >>>> main priority. >>>> >>> >>> I'm against creating a Symfony2 specific group. If we were to create a >>> new group, then it would be a symfony-legacy group. Do we want to create >>> a ghetto? >>> >>> Fabien >>> >>> Also, it's worth noting that there is significant time involved with >>>> moderating this group alone, which I am not complaining about as it >>>> means we have an incredibly active community of developers and users >>>> which is fantastic! >>>> >>>> I'll bring it up and we can go from there? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Chris Sedlmayr >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 9, 8:16 am, Ricky<ricky.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> It's a good idea that there is symfony2 group seperately, as we >>>>> sometimes can find our solution or get help from others more clearly. >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 9, 10:54 am, Anton >>>>> Patrikeyev<anton.patrike...@**gmail.com<anton.patrike...@gmail.com> >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/18 mepk<mpriz...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> marcelo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 18 mayo, 05:05, Leo Jokinen<leo.joki...@snoobi.com**> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 since only interested of SF2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -Leo- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> symfony-users@googlegroups.com**] On Behalf Of Marco Pivetta >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: 18. toukokuuta 2011 10:39 >>>>>>>> To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [symfony-users] Re: Any chance of creating a new Google >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> group for Symfony2 only? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> +1 as I am COMPLETELY not interested in Symfony 1.X and joined >>>>>>>> here to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> just follow some of the issues coming of sf2 :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marco Pivetta >>>>>>>> @Ocramius<http://twitter.com/**Ocramius<http://twitter.com/Ocramius> >>>>>>>> >http://marco-pivetta.**com <http://marco-pivetta.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> On 18 May 2011 09:21, Yanko Simeonoff<zech...@gmail.com<**mailto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> zech...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> On 05/18/2011 10:12 AM, Zolzaya Erdenebaatar wrote: >>>>>>>> +1On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Alan >>>>>>>> Bem<alan....@gmail.com<mailto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> alan....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> 2011/5/18 >>>>> realmfoo<konstantin.leb...@**gmail.com<konstantin.leb...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> <mailto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> konstantin.leb...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>>>>> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please >>>>>>>> send it to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> security at >>>>>>> symfony-project.com<http://**symfony-project.com<http://symfony-project.com> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "symfony users" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:symfony-users@**googlegroups.com<symfony-users@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> 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