Wow, @rvalyi - thank you so much for your honesty! I hate evangelism and people 
telling me something is great, and that its somehow my fault if I don't think 
its great!

The things you have said, I have suspected just from browsing launchpad and 
trying out OpenERP myself. Now at least I know I'm not just being pessimistic. 

I will start following Tryton, and keep an eye on both. I have to try and make 
money off something soon, or I will have to just get a job. If I'm not making 
good money in 12 months, I will be bankrupt.

I find the craziest thing to be the weakness in accounting - the whole world is 
(largely already has) moved to IFRS. I just studied IFRS Framework and IAS-1 in 
my business degree. Belgium, France, Spain .. all in the EU, all listed 
companies required to use IFRS since 2005. The US is a bit behind, but still 
moving to IFRS. Australia (where I am) and New Zealand have been using IFRS 
since 2005, full adoption since 2007. Japan, India, Canada, Russia and more ... 
all changing next year (2011).

I see Fabien has been busy with ETL module lately. Fuck ETL - we can't move a 
MYOB or SAGE implementation to OpenERP anyway, because accounting is fucked. As 
I said before ... they seem to just keep adding modules that dont even work so 
well, instead of fixing the core. Let the community write stuff like ETL. Look 
at Linux - Linus kept control only of the kernel. And whats the kernel, really? 
its tiny. The real power of linux is the whole package - the hundreds/thousands 
of modules and applications written by a diverse community. Imagine Linus 
Torvalds tried to control it. Even companies like Ubuntu and Red Hat know ... 
they can't control commits etc to all those projects - they just re-bundle 
them, do a basic test to make sure they work, and add them to the distro. Open 
source must be OPEN (ie, not simply "read only") Tiny must decide what the 
"kernel" of openerp is, and only control that, and let the rest be controlled 
by the community. And if they are worried about money, its because their 
business model is flawed. If they try to emulate OpenBravo, I think they will 
fail. And don't emulate Sun either - that didn't work too well (god only knows 
what Oracle is going to do with all that "open" source. I'm scared for the 
future) I think the best Tiny can be as a business, is a "king pin" integrator, 
just like the rest of us, but with the greatest experience and knowledge of the 
program, so the better able to win contracts for large clients, while newbies 
like me focus on small businesses (and of course, there are geographical 
boundaries) 

BTW, what do you think of Adempiere? I know its similar code base to Bravo, so 
probably not much better(or worse) from a coder's perspective, but what of the 
community - at least its doesn't have a bottleneck of a company controlling it?




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