Mike,

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mike Raley <mrale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm getting the feeling that the underlying issues around "buy local" are 
> still at work, but due to the unique nature of hosting, in a different way.  
> To me at least buy local means support the local economy, and lower 
> externalized and hidden costs.
>
> If you have a remote (say california, texas, etc) colo it's not local, but 
> they have economy of scale, lower externalized costs than local (say being 
> close to power, major peering points, etc), and if you go through a local 
> reseller, you are keeping at least some of your dollars local, plus, it keeps 
> the massive power generation (and it's associated negatives) centralized.
>
> I've take a few interesting bits from this discussion (some of which I 
> already knew)
>
> 1) localized hosting is a dead end business idea unless you have a unique 
> value added proposition, or major number of customers! (already knew)
>
> 2) There is little to no interest in local hosting in the area.  Economies of 
> scale, and the benefits they bring are just too tantalizing (guessed, but had 
> no clear data)
>
> 3) Using something like slice host through a resller, works fairly well as a 
> hybrid between buy local and getting the best bang for your buck!
>
> So, who are the local resllers? :)

As I said earlier, we're a Mosso (now "The Rackspace Cloud") reseller
and have been for years:
http://www.foundline.com/services/web-hosting/

It's really intended for our clients who also use us for web
development and design, but we'd be happy to sell to people who just
need web hosting ;-)

Thanks,
Bradley

>
> Mike
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Rene Churchill <r...@wherezit.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Rene Churchill <r...@wherezit.com>
>> Subject: Re: Vermont Hosting Providers
>> To: VAGUE@LIST.UVM.EDU
>> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 5:07 PM
>> While physical location of the hosting is of little
>> relevance to
>> the hosting customers, it is important to the hosting
>> services
>> themselves.  Microsoft and Google are both buying land to
>> build
>> data centers in the Columbia River valley up near Portland
>> because
>> of the availability of cheap, dependable hydro power.
>>
>> Access to cheap power is another thing that improves with
>> scale
>> and is a barrier to local/co-op hosting businesses.
>>
>>       Rene
>>
>>
>> Dan Coutu wrote:
>> > To make Mike's idea work you'd need to secure
>> hundreds of customers (or more) and have a significant sized
>> facility with generator backup, redundant high bandwidth
>> connections, and a crew of at least 9 operations personnel
>> to provide round the clock monitoring and support.
>> That's a very significant investment. I don't know
>> if it could be made to work since, as Mike points out, there
>> is strong competition from non-local providers and to a
>> large extent the physical location of hosting servers is
>> becoming less relevant as time goes on.
>>
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