Gigi, While Jed is locating that information for you may I request that you make a calculation of the kinetic energy contained within the moving water exiting the pump? Then, do the same thing for the kinetic energy of water that is about to enter the intake pipe of the pump. Do you agree that the difference in heat must be deposited within the standing liquid?
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Gigi DiMarco <gdmgdms...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 8, 2015 10:54 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised Mizuno measured the heat added to the system by the pump. There is no point to appealing to a theory or hypothesis about how much heat there may be when it has actually been measured for 18 hours by running the pump only. dear Jed, I could not find anymore the excel file of this 18 hour measurement [it used to be http://LENR-CANR.org/Mizuno/Mizuno2014-11-20.xlsx] In that file it was clearly shown that the water temperature, with no excess heat, rised by 2.5 °C in a stable way against the room temperature. Is not it too much for 0,24 W? Could you post the file again? Many thanks 2015-01-08 16:39 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>: Gigi DiMarco <gdmgdms...@gmail.com> wrote: This is completely wrong: the pump power is not transformed into kinetic enegy of the water, otherwise you will get after a while an infinite velocity, not only for the water inside the tube but for cars on motorways as well. Let me point out again that this entire discussion is irrelevant for two reasons, which I clearly explained in the paper, starting on p. 24: 1. Mizuno measured the heat added to the system by the pump. There is no point to appealing to a theory or hypothesis about how much heat there may be when it has actually been measured for 18 hours by running the pump only. 2. It makes no difference how much heat is added to the system by the pump. Whether the temperature goes up 0.6°C, or 6°C or 10°C, and whether this temperature represents a half watt, or 5 W, or 10 Watts is completely irrelevant. The pump is left running all the time. Therefore all of the heat from the pump is in the baseline temperature of the system. Mizuno measures from the baseline to the terminal high temperature at the end of the test, just as the temperature begins to fall. He does not measure from the ambient temperature. I wish the people writing these critiques would spend a few moments reading the paper, but they never do. I am not even going to bother adding these remarks to the latest paper. I am busy. If someone here would like to, feel free to add these points. It is a waste of time, I think. - Jed
