David
You noted the following: "The manual describing how to use this device does mention that it needs to be kept free of negative pressure and cavitation conditions." I would think that the design of the flow system would position the flow meter down stream of the pump to assure a positive pressure on the flow meter. In addition a calibrated orifice to help provide a constant flow might be included down stream from the flow meter. The use of gate valves to control flow is not uncommon, however, IMHO not as reliable as an orifice for flow control. A throttle valve would be the best option to control flow. Bob Cook ________________________________ From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too! I agree that it would be better to improve the fraud. You have to wonder why he did not at least go to that level of expertise by using fractional data? It would be far more believable to suspect that he used the average instead of making an effort to track the true data if he did not think anyone would care. Could Penon be so convinced of the 1 MW and extreme COP calculations that he did not believe that anyone would become too demanding? I do not know. Of course, I probably would assume that now it is too late to retract the data as reported since it will do great harm to the court case to do so. How could you explain to the judge that your data was known by you to be inaccurate? Penon is acting in a strange manner, the only way it makes sense is to think that he did not expect a problem to develop with IH. Perhaps he really believes that the COP was great and the power met the requirements. I am still attempting to understand how the flow meter may have been faked out by being less than full of water. The manual describing how to use this device does mention that it needs to be kept free of negative pressure and cavitation conditions. My current theory is that a restriction of some type is located ahead of the meter which limits the amount of liquid that can be pumped through the meter. This problem is common in hydraulic systems where a clogged filter starves the hydraulic pump. When starved, the pump lowers the input port pressure which might cause the incoming liquid to vaporize. The life expectancy of a hydraulic pump is greatly reduced when cavitation of this type exists. So, I am suspecting that the return water is vaporized to some degree by this process thus leading to a large meter error. To be sure, we need a diagram of the compete system which includes the location of all the pumps, meters, and holding tanks, etc. We also need to know the power being drawn be these pumps and tables of their operational parameters as a function of power input. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2016 4:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too! David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com<mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>> wrote: So, it would not surprise me too greatly to find that Penon became extremely bored making the same readings day in and out until he placed data into the log that assumed everything continued as it had for many long previous periods of time. That might be true of the temperatures, which vary, then start repeating, and then vary again. But the flow rate and pressure was the same for every single day of the test, as noted by Murray. Penon did not start off off recording actual values with variations, and then later repeating values. He stuffed 36,000 kg into every day, for the entire test. By the way, as Rossi noted in the Lewan interview, Penon arbitrarily reduced the flow by 10% down to 32,400 kg. Both numbers are shown. I think 32,400 kg is used to compute heat. If a 10% reduction is valid, why not 20% or 90%? It was sloppy of Penon to record positive flow rates, elevated temperatures and 1 MW heat production on days when Rossi in his blog said the reactor was turned off. Eyewitnesses confirm that it was actually off. If you are going to commit fraud, you should at least try to make it look convincing. These people were just phoning it in! - Jed