So where's this patent? On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Papp spent a few years developing the noble gas version of his engine > control that was more stable. By the early '80s, Papp found a new engineer > to work with, Bob Rohner of West Liberty, Iowa. Papp settled in Florida. > Several working engines ran during the Rohner years, which lasted until > Papp died in '89. During this time, his third patent application was met > with a USPTO request for a working model. Papp refused to not only take an > engine to Washington DC, but also to leave it with anyone for any length of > time. The USPTO then requested a dynamometer affidavit. A diesel engine > test group associated with the University of Oklahoma agreed to come to > Florida to test the engine. The affidavit was accepted by the USPTO and > they issued the patent. > > That patent was designated by the patent office to be the best patent > granted in that patent year. > > What other overunity devices has be granted a patent? > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote: > >> >> Rossi - Papp What's the difference. There is not support data. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:53 PM >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation >> >> I have been trying to understate how the Papp engine works for years. It >> is a mystery. This is no information available on how it works. >> >> A clue to the production of a plasma based explosion is now coming from >> Holmlid's experiments. Holmlid has just discovered that a spark can be used >> to activate that plasma explosion just as well as a laser pulse. >> >> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Where's the best online source to go to for information on this? >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation >>>> based device. >>>> >>>> In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced >>>> water crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the >>>> volume of the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure >>>> environment inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed >>>> thereby producing ultra dense water crystals. >>>> >>>> For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to >>>> high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the >>>> cylinder wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant >>>> against >>>> the cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will >>>> eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion >>>> gases to leak into the coolant. >>>> >>>> To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the >>>> subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which >>>> produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the >>>> cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not >>>> damage the cylinder walls. >>>> >>>> When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as >>>> happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals >>>> produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of >>>> light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy >>>> inherent to his expanding plasma. >>>> >>>> To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture >>>> that nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design >>>> using ultra dense hydrogen as fuel. >>>> >>> >>> >> >
