Axil,

Carbon nanocone properties: http://www.mse.ncsu.edu/CompMatSci/pdf/full3.pdf
"most probable spot for emitting tunneling electrons in the presence of external field"

Nanocone production is covered by: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14356007.n05_n06/pdf
page 15, 3.2 from heavy oil or gaseous hydrocarbons in arc plasmas.

Warm Regards,

Reliable

Axil Axil wrote:

I stand in support of Reliable.

I do not discount Chan and the other fellows that follow his design lead as kooks. On the contrary, their approach may be superior to what Rossi has done.


As an underlying design principle, I think that it is the shape of the catalyzing cluster that is important not what element it is comprised of… water, cesium, potassium, carbon… the cluster is made of. The engineering and control may be very different, however.

As long as the cluster can hold a charge; that is what is important. It is this charge that suppresses the coulomb barrier.

I think it important that experimenters try out carbon as a LENR catalyst. I don’t think Rossi uses carbon as his secret sauce because he states he uses pure hydrogen. Using Bulk Carbon powder would be a poor way to distribute carbon around the hydrogen envelop.

A better way to get carbon into the act is to use a hydrocarbon gas instead of vaporizing bulk carbon and hydrogen. Vaporizing bulk carbon is not easy from a practical point of view.

In an easier way, without any oxygen in the reactor’s envelop (important), under the action of a spark plug discharge plasma at 60,000C, the hydrocarbon gas would decompose into hydrogen and some sort of carbon dust.

This dust may form as carbon nanotubes(a one dimensional superconductive cluster) which would store electrons from the plasma produced by the spark plug.

This long thin tube would be superconductive and concentrate negative charge like a capacitor. These nanowires would be electrostatically attracted to the nickel powder, they would attach themselves electrostatically head on to the nickel powder, and their accumulated negative charge at their sharp tip would reduce the coulomb barrier where their sharp tips contacted the nickel powder.

This is not the way Rossi’s reaction works, but I think that it is a better way. Rossi’s secret sauce is heat activated to accumulate charge; but the carbon nanotubes accumulate charge in proportion to the discharge rate of the spark plug.

If you want to increase heat output on a nanotube based system, just increase the spark plug firing rate. Control of heat output is a simple process with an advantage of simplicity over what Rossi has been struggling with over more than a year.

Cheers: Axil




On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:30 PM, integral.property.serv...@gmail.com <mailto:integral.property.serv...@gmail.com> <integral.property.serv...@gmail.com <mailto:integral.property.serv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Chan Again Darn It,

    http://hydride.has.it/
    shows reference to processing FLUID hydrocarbons (mineral oil or
    propane perhaps) with arc.
    Hmmmm. Yes, bleeding gas or pumped fluids suggests control
    possibilities. Yes, What about this, Gentlemen, could it be that
    passing Ni dispersed in oil through a permanent magnetic field or
    one created by an electromagnet powered by DC might control or
    mediate a miniature Ni H fusion therein?

    Warm Regards,

    Reliable


    Robert Lynn wrote:

        Checking on use of spark plugs with high pressure hydrogen:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen%27s_law
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paschen_Curves.PNG

        Hydrogen appears to have a lower breakdown voltage of about
        60-70% of
        air at same pressure. So should be able to use an air gap that is
        bigger.

        Spark plugs are usually about 0.8mm gap, and if you are using
        25bar H2
        that will require about 30kV at room temperature, but for
        25bar 600°C
        I would estimate it will probably be closer to 12kV due to
        lower H2
        density (density equivalent of about 8bar).

        Most automotive ignition systems do about 20-30kV, so at elevated
        temperatures it seems likely you could drive a 1.5-2mm spark gap,
        though not at colder temps and not at higher H2 pressures.

        Anyway a standard spark plug looks like it should work fine
        producing
        sparks in H2 at 25 bar using an automotive coil.

        On 21 May 2012 19:00, ecat builder <ecatbuil...@gmail.com
        <mailto:ecatbuil...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Interesting link on the
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding

            It also appears that you can buy "vintage" tungsten spark
            plugs. Terry
            mentioned Iridium spark plugs... Any thoughts on one
            versus the other
            or using off-the-shelf.. I would prefer to use NPT plugs.

            Obviously I don't want to create too much heat in my
            reactor... or
            blow anything up... (There may be some air/O2 in my system..)

            Guenter, thanks for the schematic links..

            - Brad
            p.s. While not worth a new thread, I think it is
            interesting that
            Rossi says he has been in contact with Siemens. I've long
            thought that
            they would be a good corporate fit for Rossi.








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