aloha, brian! please refer to my resend of my reply to david:
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2010-November/001235.html for my complete post -- as for using the brackets, that isn't semantically marking the text as relating to/glossing the quote, but not part of the quote -- designating a voice characteristics change for everything in brackets is a rather "gross" tool for this task, similar to having a voice chars switch for quotation marks, which are used for a lot more than quotations -- for example, i use CSS to put text in emphasis quotes by assigning the text to be encased in air-quotes the element EM for more detailed musings (by me and others) on what is lacking in HTML5's quote element, consult the HTML WG wiki page: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/MuchAdoAboutQ gregory. ---------------------------------------------------------------- CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, [email protected] Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Brian Cragun <[email protected]> To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], David Bolter <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:05:42 -0600 Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE > Hi, > > Doesn't the demarcation in the text itself provide that context > inherently? Anyone reading the text would assume that the > brackets mean there is editor inserted comment. > > Regards, > > Brian > > Brian Cragun > IBM AbilityLab Consultant > Human Ability & Accessibility Center > www.ibm.com/able & w3.ibm.com/able > W:(720)-663-2801 H:(507)288-2437 > > From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> > To: David Bolter <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Date: 11/15/2010 01:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE > Sent by: [email protected] > > aloha, david! > > actually, i'd argue that the problem is that the concept "note" > is insufficient for all use cases: > > 1. there should be a means to distinguish between explanatory notes > and referential notes; > > 2. there needs to be a means to convey within semantically demarcated > quoted text, that a string of text added to contextualize the quote > is not part of the original quote, but disambiguation text: > > <q>He [Robert E. Lee] was hamstrung by his [J.E.B. Stuart's] > absence from the battlefield for the first two days of fighting, > depriving him [Lee] of the up-to-date intelligence the calvary > ordinarily provided.</q> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, > as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them > with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Gregory J. Rosmaita, [email protected] > Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: David Bolter <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:42:40 -0500 > Subject: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE > > > Hi. > > > > I think this is the current description of the note role: > > "An embedded note which is not visible until activated" > > > > I wonder if we could change it to: > > "A section that provides complementary information" > > > > This would make it reusable for things like html:aside elements > > and aria role="note". Thoughts? > > > > Cheers, > > David > > _______________________________________________ > > Accessibility-ia2 mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.linux- > > foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Accessibility-ia2 mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.linux- > foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 ------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list [email protected] https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
