For what? the IA2 role? The ARIA definition is accurate: A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.
ARIA has a role of complementary Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: David Bolter <[email protected]> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> Date: 11/18/2010 01:32 PM Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE Thanks Rich, Is anyone opposed to changing the definition to: "A section that provides complementary information" ? Cheers, David On 16/11/10 10:32 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: That is the appropriate role for aside. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Inactive hide details for david bolter ---11/15/2010 05:55:01 PM---Well, I think I'm looking for approval to expose the html asdavid bolter ---11/15/2010 05:55:01 PM---Well, I think I'm looking for approval to expose the html aside element with an IA2 note role (in ge From: david bolter <[email protected]> To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: 11/15/2010 05:55 PM Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE Sent by: [email protected] Well, I think I'm looking for approval to expose the html aside element with an IA2 note role (in gecko). It might be problematic to use a brand new role for FF4 since we are API frozen. Cheers, D On Nov 15, 2010 4:20 PM, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> wrote: > aloha, brian! > > please refer to my resend of my reply to david: > > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2010-November/001235.html > > for my complete post -- as for using the brackets, that isn't > semantically marking the text as relating to/glossing the quote, but > not part of the quote -- designating a voice characteristics change > for everything in brackets is a rather "gross" tool for this task, > similar to having a voice chars switch for quotation marks, which are > used for a lot more than quotations -- for example, i use CSS to put > text in emphasis quotes by assigning the text to be encased in > air-quotes the element EM > > for more detailed musings (by me and others) on what is lacking in > HTML5's quote element, consult the HTML WG wiki page: > > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/MuchAdoAboutQ > > gregory. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, > as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them > with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Gregory J. Rosmaita, [email protected] > Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Brian Cragun <[email protected]> > To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], > [email protected], David Bolter > <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:05:42 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE > >> Hi, >> >> Doesn't the demarcation in the text itself provide that context >> inherently? Anyone reading the text would assume that the >> brackets mean there is editor inserted comment. >> >> Regards, >> >> Brian >> >> Brian Cragun >> IBM AbilityLab Consultant >> Human Ability & Accessibility Center >> www.ibm.com/able & w3.ibm.com/able >> W:(720)-663-2801 H:(507)288-2437 >> >> From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]> >> To: David Bolter <[email protected]>, >> [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Date: 11/15/2010 01:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE >> Sent by: [email protected] >> >> aloha, david! >> >> actually, i'd argue that the problem is that the concept "note" >> is insufficient for all use cases: >> >> 1. there should be a means to distinguish between explanatory notes >> and referential notes; >> >> 2. there needs to be a means to convey within semantically demarcated >> quoted text, that a string of text added to contextualize the quote >> is not part of the original quote, but disambiguation text: >> >> <q>He [Robert E. Lee] was hamstrung by his [J.E.B. Stuart's] >> absence from the battlefield for the first two days of fighting, >> depriving him [Lee] of the up-to-date intelligence the calvary >> ordinarily provided.</q> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, >> as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them >> with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> Gregory J. Rosmaita, [email protected] >> Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------- >> From: David Bolter <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:42:40 -0500 >> Subject: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE >> >> > Hi. >> > >> > I think this is the current description of the note role: >> > "An embedded note which is not visible until activated" >> > >> > I wonder if we could change it to: >> > "A section that provides complementary information" >> > >> > This would make it reusable for things like html:aside elements >> > and aria role="note". Thoughts? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > David >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Accessibility-ia2 mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.linux- >> > foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 >> ------- End of Original Message ------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accessibility-ia2 mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.linux- >> foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 > ------- End of Original Message ------- > _______________________________________________ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list [email protected] https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
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