That is the appropriate role for aside.
Rich Schwerdtfeger
CTO Accessibility Software Group
david
bolter ---11/15/2010 05:55:01 PM---Well, I think I'm looking
for approval to expose the html aside element with an IA2 note
role (in ge
From: david
bolter <[email protected]>
To: "Gregory
J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]
Date: 11/15/2010
05:55 PM
Subject: Re:
[Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE
Sent by: [email protected]
Well, I think I'm looking for approval to expose
the html aside element with an IA2 note role (in gecko).
It might be problematic to use a brand new role
for FF4 since we are API frozen.
Cheers,
D
On Nov 15, 2010 4:20 PM, "Gregory J. Rosmaita"
<[email protected]>
wrote:
> aloha, brian!
>
> please refer to my resend of my reply to david:
>
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2010-November/001235.html
>
> for my complete post -- as for using the brackets, that
isn't
> semantically marking the text as relating to/glossing the
quote, but
> not part of the quote -- designating a voice
characteristics change
> for everything in brackets is a rather "gross" tool for
this task,
> similar to having a voice chars switch for quotation
marks, which are
> used for a lot more than quotations -- for example, i use
CSS to put
> text in emphasis quotes by assigning the text to be
encased in
> air-quotes the element EM
>
> for more detailed musings (by me and others) on what is
lacking in
> HTML5's quote element, consult the HTML WG wiki page:
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/MuchAdoAboutQ
>
> gregory.
>
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Brian Cragun <[email protected]>
> To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected],
> [email protected], David Bolter
> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:05:42 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Doesn't the demarcation in the text itself provide
that context
>> inherently? Anyone reading the text would assume that
the
>> brackets mean there is editor inserted comment.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Brian Cragun
>> IBM AbilityLab Consultant
>> Human Ability & Accessibility Center
>> www.ibm.com/able
& w3.ibm.com/able
>> W:(720)-663-2801 H:(507)288-2437
>>
>> From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]>
>> To: David Bolter <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Date: 11/15/2010 01:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE
>> Sent by: [email protected]
>>
>> aloha, david!
>>
>> actually, i'd argue that the problem is that the
concept "note"
>> is insufficient for all use cases:
>>
>> 1. there should be a means to distinguish between
explanatory notes
>> and referential notes;
>>
>> 2. there needs to be a means to convey within
semantically demarcated
>> quoted text, that a string of text added to
contextualize the quote
>> is not part of the original quote, but disambiguation
text:
>>
>> <q>He [Robert E. Lee] was hamstrung by his
[J.E.B. Stuart's]
>> absence from the battlefield for the first two days
of fighting,
>> depriving him [Lee] of the up-to-date intelligence
the calvary
>> ordinarily provided.</q>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>> From: David Bolter <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:42:40 -0500
>> Subject: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I think this is the current description of the
note role:
>> > "An embedded note which is not visible until
activated"
>> >
>> > I wonder if we could change it to:
>> > "A section that provides complementary
information"
>> >
>> > This would make it reusable for things like
html:aside elements
>> > and aria role="note". Thoughts?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > David
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