Advice...sincere or otherwise...may also come out of ignorance.
On Jul 29, 7:47 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob is angry. > Anger comes out of ignorance. > Angry means angry at something. > That implies subject object which is ignorance. > Bob is an ignorant person and has to come out of his illusion. > So my sincere advise to Bob is, abide in the Self or fuck off. > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote: > > Shut it. > > > Bob has got every right to come up with whatever bother him. > > > This is not AdvaitaNow where we can only come up with Advaitical > > stuff... > > > Are you part of the Advaita Police? > > > :-) > > > Kali > > > On 29 Lug, 13:55, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Don't spin your yarn here Bob. This is not a group for psychological > > support > > > and counselling. > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well, now that I have slept on it ................ > > > > > "You really have missed the entire point of that part of the > > > > teaching!" > > > > > I'm guessing the above was directed towards me. > > > > Well, like I pointed out before. > > > > I spent 45 years candy coating, avoiding conflict and confrontation. > > > > Trying to keep every one happy and oh ya, in love with Bob. > > > > I not long ago realized that. > > > > I'm just now taking ownership of my own life. > > > > It actually feels pretty good ......... really pretty great. > > > > I really haven't missed the point. > > > > This is changing and has changed everything ....... for me. > > > > It's not about my employee's motivation or work ethics. > > > > Sure they are taking advantage as Mahakali pointed out .... it's human > > > > nature. > > > > They took advantage because I allowed it. > > > > It's about me regaining ownership of the company. > > > > If I couldn't own my own life and be true to myself, I certainly > > > > couldn't with a company. > > > > I've allowed this to happen and now I'm going to take it back. > > > > See ............. this was good. > > > > > On Jul 29, 3:58 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good morning,Bob. > > > > > Read through the responses from others...a gold mine of info there.In > > > > > your own posts as well. > > > > > Hope today is a better day for you. > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:29 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > You really have missed the entire point of that part of the > > teaching! > > > > > > > Sent from an iPhone > > > > > > > On 29 Jul 2010, at 06:11, roomsearching <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > There is no office and there are no employees. > > > > > > > There are no responsibilities. > > > > > > > There is only the Self. > > > > > > > The whole universe resides in your heart. > > > > > > > Let the mind dive into your heart. > > > > > > > Just be. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hiya Bob, > > > > > > > > Some two bits from one who has run task forces, simultaneously > > > > located > > > > > > > in different countries. > > > > > > > > Bob1357 wrote: > > > > > > > >> I am having a little..... no ...... a lot of difficulty today > > with > > > > > > >> anger. > > > > > > >> I gave my employees a priority list today. > > > > > > >> A list geared so that a ten year old could understand it. > > > > > > > > Yep. > > > > > > > > But did you ensure that they got "your" priorities? > > > > > > > > It is very interesting that even with the seniors in your > > > > team......how there is a wide encompassing difference between what you > > are > > > > outlaying and what is getting heard as being outlayed. > > > > > > > > What is agreed to be done and what gets done finally is often a > > > > yawning gap. > > > > > > > >> Nothing was done in order, nothing was done correctly and most > > of > > > > what > > > > > > >> I asked was not done at all. > > > > > > > > Aah well...very familiar space. > > > > > > > > Was it something like a day project or several days project? > > > > > > > > Depending on how crucial the project is, I always insisted on > > > > immediate, short term milestones..... > > > > > > > ...so that there is a possibility of mid-course > > > > corrections/appropriate actions to be taken. > > > > > > > > The mile-stones could as short-term as who does what, immediately > > > > after then meeting is over and people troop > > > > > > > back to their work-stations. > > > > > > > > Or what must happen in the immediate 1 hour, mid-day, end of day, > > > > mid-week, end of week etc etc. > > > > > > > > You cannot monitor what you cannot measure. > > > > > > > > Obviously the level of micro-planning depends on the complexity > > and > > > > importance of the project.... > > > > > > > ....but sometimes I would insist on such mile-stones related > > > > time-lines even in the most ordinary of projects so that we all learnt > > to > > > > work with the same methodology and focus, irrespective of the > > > > importance/scope of the project. > > > > > > > > And each missed mile-stone.........must ring a bell somewhere. > > > > > > > > You cannot try to plug a breach when the dam has totally cracked > > up. > > > > > > > >> I completely exploded when I showed up at the job site this > > > > afternoon. > > > > > > >> I was furious. > > > > > > >> I don't do furious and I don't explode. > > > > > > > > So obviously, something "more" was/had got compromised. > > > > > > > > What was that? > > > > > > > >> Perhaps things are coming to a head and I am realizing that I > > can > > > > not > > > > > > >> rely on others. > > > > > > > > That might be an assessment that needs to be made when things are > > > > more settled... > > > > > > > ..you may have to weed out the weeds in your team. > > > > > > > > And start with the weeds in oneself. > > > > > > > > After all the team that you have is the team that you had all the > > > > time until now. > > > > > > > >> One thing that really gets me bent is the fact that they are all > > so > > > > > > >> much in the dark. > > > > > > >> Eating, drinking, fucking, and sleeping is all they seem to > > care > > > > > > >> about. > > > > > > > > Why on earth should they care about anything else? > > > > > > > > For them, the job with you is a means to doing stuff. > > > > > > > > Is it not so for you, just that the stuff-to-be-done may be > > somewhat > > > > different to those listed? > > > > > > > > If for you, the job.......is a completion in itself.... > > > > > > > > ...then you have to show that to your team.......as the quality > > of > > > > oneself. > > > > > > > >> There like animals at times. Me me me mine mine mine > > > > > > >> Perhaps I need "employees" with a raised or slightly higher > > > > > > >> consciousness than what my current employees have. > > > > > > > > :-)) > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > Share, your pay-offs with your team and show how in your pay-off, > > > > lies their pay-offs. > > > > > > > >> I have pointed to the problems over and over but they just don't > > > > seem > > > > > > >> to get it or care. > > > > > > >> Perhaps my standards are too high. > > > > > > >> Perhaps it is all my fault for letting fuck ups and mistakes > > slide > > > > so > > > > > > >> easily. > > > > > > >> Perhaps they have learned that they can get away with what ever > > they > > > > > > >> want because Bob is nice. > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > How far the envelope can be pushed......is always the game > > getting > > > > played out. > > > > > > > > Why were you being nice, when faced with incompetence or neglect? > > > > > > > > What was in it for you? > > > > > > > >> I do believe that within all this chaos there is something > > > > unraveling. > > > > > > >> Unfortunately I am so filled with anger and a sense of betrayal > > that > > > > I > > > > > > >> can not see it. > > > > > > > > Can you see the anger and sense of betrayal? > > > > > > > > Be with that. > > > > > > > > And see what is it that you are really pissed off at.......what > > is it > > > > that really has got betrayed. > > > > > > > >> I am confused at how I can let another influence my mood today. > > > > > > > > Eh? > > > > > > > > How else are any moods generated, except as an impact of an > > other? > > > > > > > >> I am not an angry person. > > > > > > >> My head hurts. > > > > > > >> Just venting, thanks to those for reading. > > > > > > >> Sorry for being so much off the subject of non- dual, but that > > is > > > > one > > > > > > >> of the things that is bothering me too. > > > > > > >> I mean, seeing them fuck up and act so irresponsibly ...... Is > > that > > > > > > >> part of me? > > > > > > > > It's really not them........but the fuck-up that has taken place > > in > > > > you, through the acts of the others. > > > > > > > > What is that? > > > > > > > >> Do I actually have some of those qualities? > > > > > > >> Am I to learn from this and find these hidden quirks within and > > > > > > >> correct them? > > > > > > > > Sure. > > > > > > > > If you are moved to. > > > > > > > > The other as a mirror is always something to be grateful > > to.......for > > > > it is the other which exposes oneself. > > > > > > > >> Ok ...... Now my head hurts more. > > > > > > > > Take a long walk. > > > > > > > > And then sit with some of the finest Lagavulin and get amused > > with > > > > the comedy of it all.- Nascondi testo citato > > > > - Mostra testo citato -
