Sorry. I knew it was Mark. But I added an extra O to it. In any case there is no Mark or Marko. There are no books.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: > You aren't that present mate - wake up - I am called Mark and you are > reying to Marko - if you haven't got the distinction O - y'u w'n't have > learned much fr'm th'se b''ks > > Sent fr'm an iPh'ne > > On 29 Jul 2010, at 23:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > Marko, > > I am in the witness state. > I would still be a witness even if I am hung, drawn and quartered. > I will still be a witness if I am crucified. > I am in the eternal state. > Since the present moment is what has always existed, I have been in this > state for billions of eons. > I will be in the eternal state in what you call the future as well. > But since the present moment only can always exist, there is no such thing > as future and past. > It is an eternally still ocean of bliss in which I happen to know that I am > at present. > But in some time, the "I am" knowledge will also dissolve and all that > remain will be pure awareness > which does not even know that "it is". > The "I am" ness is the culprit which creates all the nuisance for everyone. > > Ignore it. > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <<[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Someone should hang you RS >> >> Sent from an iPhone >> >> On 29 Jul 2010, at 13:47, roomsearching < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Bob is angry. >> Anger comes out of ignorance. >> Angry means angry at something. >> That implies subject object which is ignorance. >> Bob is an ignorant person and has to come out of his illusion. >> So my sincere advise to Bob is, abide in the Self or fuck off. >> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mahakali < >> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Shut it. >>> >>> Bob has got every right to come up with whatever bother him. >>> >>> This is not AdvaitaNow where we can only come up with Advaitical >>> stuff... >>> >>> Are you part of the Advaita Police? >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Kali >>> >>> On 29 Lug, 13:55, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Don't spin your yarn here Bob. This is not a group for psychological >>> support >>> > and counselling. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > Well, now that I have slept on it ................ >>> > >>> > > "You really have missed the entire point of that part of the >>> > > teaching!" >>> > >>> > > I'm guessing the above was directed towards me. >>> > > Well, like I pointed out before. >>> > > I spent 45 years candy coating, avoiding conflict and confrontation. >>> > > Trying to keep every one happy and oh ya, in love with Bob. >>> > > I not long ago realized that. >>> > > I'm just now taking ownership of my own life. >>> > > It actually feels pretty good ......... really pretty great. >>> > > I really haven't missed the point. >>> > > This is changing and has changed everything ....... for me. >>> > > It's not about my employee's motivation or work ethics. >>> > > Sure they are taking advantage as Mahakali pointed out .... it's >>> human >>> > > nature. >>> > > They took advantage because I allowed it. >>> > > It's about me regaining ownership of the company. >>> > > If I couldn't own my own life and be true to myself, I certainly >>> > > couldn't with a company. >>> > > I've allowed this to happen and now I'm going to take it back. >>> > > See ............. this was good. >>> > >>> > > On Jul 29, 3:58 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > > Good morning,Bob. >>> > > > Read through the responses from others...a gold mine of info >>> there.In >>> > > > your own posts as well. >>> > > > Hope today is a better day for you. >>> > >>> > > > On Jul 29, 2:29 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > You really have missed the entire point of that part of the >>> teaching! >>> > >>> > > > > Sent from an iPhone >>> > >>> > > > > On 29 Jul 2010, at 06:11, roomsearching <[email protected] >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > > There is no office and there are no employees. >>> > > > > > There are no responsibilities. >>> > > > > > There is only the Self. >>> > > > > > The whole universe resides in your heart. >>> > > > > > Let the mind dive into your heart. >>> > > > > > Just be. >>> > >>> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies < >>> > > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > > > > > Hiya Bob, >>> > >>> > > > > > Some two bits from one who has run task forces, simultaneously >>> > > located >>> > > > > > in different countries. >>> > >>> > > > > > Bob1357 wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > >> I am having a little..... no ...... a lot of difficulty today >>> with >>> > > > > >> anger. >>> > > > > >> I gave my employees a priority list today. >>> > > > > >> A list geared so that a ten year old could understand it. >>> > >>> > > > > > Yep. >>> > >>> > > > > > But did you ensure that they got "your" priorities? >>> > >>> > > > > > It is very interesting that even with the seniors in your >>> > > team......how there is a wide encompassing difference between what >>> you are >>> > > outlaying and what is getting heard as being outlayed. >>> > >>> > > > > > What is agreed to be done and what gets done finally is often a >>> > > yawning gap. >>> > >>> > > > > >> Nothing was done in order, nothing was done correctly and most >>> of >>> > > what >>> > > > > >> I asked was not done at all. >>> > >>> > > > > > Aah well...very familiar space. >>> > >>> > > > > > Was it something like a day project or several days project? >>> > >>> > > > > > Depending on how crucial the project is, I always insisted on >>> > > immediate, short term milestones..... >>> > > > > > ...so that there is a possibility of mid-course >>> > > corrections/appropriate actions to be taken. >>> > >>> > > > > > The mile-stones could as short-term as who does what, >>> immediately >>> > > after then meeting is over and people troop >>> > > > > > back to their work-stations. >>> > >>> > > > > > Or what must happen in the immediate 1 hour, mid-day, end of >>> day, >>> > > mid-week, end of week etc etc. >>> > >>> > > > > > You cannot monitor what you cannot measure. >>> > >>> > > > > > Obviously the level of micro-planning depends on the complexity >>> and >>> > > importance of the project.... >>> > > > > > ....but sometimes I would insist on such mile-stones related >>> > > time-lines even in the most ordinary of projects so that we all >>> learnt to >>> > > work with the same methodology and focus, irrespective of the >>> > > importance/scope of the project. >>> > >>> > > > > > And each missed mile-stone.........must ring a bell somewhere. >>> > >>> > > > > > You cannot try to plug a breach when the dam has totally >>> cracked up. >>> > >>> > > > > >> I completely exploded when I showed up at the job site this >>> > > afternoon. >>> > > > > >> I was furious. >>> > > > > >> I don't do furious and I don't explode. >>> > >>> > > > > > So obviously, something "more" was/had got compromised. >>> > >>> > > > > > What was that? >>> > >>> > > > > >> Perhaps things are coming to a head and I am realizing that I >>> can >>> > > not >>> > > > > >> rely on others. >>> > >>> > > > > > That might be an assessment that needs to be made when things >>> are >>> > > more settled... >>> > > > > > ..you may have to weed out the weeds in your team. >>> > >>> > > > > > And start with the weeds in oneself. >>> > >>> > > > > > After all the team that you have is the team that you had all >>> the >>> > > time until now. >>> > >>> > > > > >> One thing that really gets me bent is the fact that they are >>> all so >>> > > > > >> much in the dark. >>> > > > > >> Eating, drinking, fucking, and sleeping is all they seem to >>> care >>> > > > > >> about. >>> > >>> > > > > > Why on earth should they care about anything else? >>> > >>> > > > > > For them, the job with you is a means to doing stuff. >>> > >>> > > > > > Is it not so for you, just that the stuff-to-be-done may be >>> somewhat >>> > > different to those listed? >>> > >>> > > > > > If for you, the job.......is a completion in itself.... >>> > >>> > > > > > ...then you have to show that to your team.......as the quality >>> of >>> > > oneself. >>> > >>> > > > > >> There like animals at times. Me me me mine mine mine >>> > > > > >> Perhaps I need "employees" with a raised or slightly higher >>> > > > > >> consciousness than what my current employees have. >>> > >>> > > > > > :-)) >>> > >>> > > > > > Good luck. >>> > >>> > > > > > Share, your pay-offs with your team and show how in your >>> pay-off, >>> > > lies their pay-offs. >>> > >>> > > > > >> I have pointed to the problems over and over but they just >>> don't >>> > > seem >>> > > > > >> to get it or care. >>> > > > > >> Perhaps my standards are too high. >>> > > > > >> Perhaps it is all my fault for letting fuck ups and mistakes >>> slide >>> > > so >>> > > > > >> easily. >>> > > > > >> Perhaps they have learned that they can get away with what >>> ever they >>> > > > > >> want because Bob is nice. >>> > >>> > > > > > Yes. >>> > >>> > > > > > How far the envelope can be pushed......is always the game >>> getting >>> > > played out. >>> > >>> > > > > > Why were you being nice, when faced with incompetence or >>> neglect? >>> > >>> > > > > > What was in it for you? >>> > >>> > > > > >> I do believe that within all this chaos there is something >>> > > unraveling. >>> > > > > >> Unfortunately I am so filled with anger and a sense of >>> betrayal that >>> > > I >>> > > > > >> can not see it. >>> > >>> > > > > > Can you see the anger and sense of betrayal? >>> > >>> > > > > > Be with that. >>> > >>> > > > > > And see what is it that you are really pissed off at.......what >>> is it >>> > > that really has got betrayed. >>> > >>> > > > > >> I am confused at how I can let another influence my mood >>> today. >>> > >>> > > > > > Eh? >>> > >>> > > > > > How else are any moods generated, except as an impact of an >>> other? >>> > >>> > > > > >> I am not an angry person. >>> > > > > >> My head hurts. >>> > > > > >> Just venting, thanks to those for reading. >>> > > > > >> Sorry for being so much off the subject of non- dual, but that >>> is >>> > > one >>> > > > > >> of the things that is bothering me too. >>> > > > > >> I mean, seeing them fuck up and act so irresponsibly ...... Is >>> that >>> > > > > >> part of me? >>> > >>> > > > > > It's really not them........but the fuck-up that has taken >>> place in >>> > > you, through the acts of the others. >>> > >>> > > > > > What is that? >>> > >>> > > > > >> Do I actually have some of those qualities? >>> > > > > >> Am I to learn from this and find these hidden quirks within >>> and >>> > > > > >> correct them? >>> > >>> > > > > > Sure. >>> > >>> > > > > > If you are moved to. >>> > >>> > > > > > The other as a mirror is always something to be grateful >>> to.......for >>> > > it is the other which exposes oneself. >>> > >>> > > > > >> Ok ...... Now my head hurts more. >>> > >>> > > > > > Take a long walk. >>> > >>> > > > > > And then sit with some of the finest Lagavulin and get amused >>> with >>> > > the comedy of it all.- Nascondi testo citato >>> > >>> > - Mostra testo citato - >> >> >> >
